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The last real argument I had was at work. I got so mad that I actually cried with anger. The woman I had the argument with was so frustrating.
That one aside, the only arguments I have are usually drunken ones with J, which never mean anything & are very short lived. I don't like arguments as although they can be cathartic & clear the air, I find it difficult to let go. So I say dud, what say you?

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 10 November 2003 10:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Dud. I can so never be bothered to argue about things, apart from in that there internet, and then only stupid things like music and films and stuff.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 10 November 2003 10:07 (twenty-two years ago)

If there's someone you can't usually have a candid talk with, an argument might indeed clear the air because the usual filters of everyday talk tend to disappear. However, I usually like to talk things through before they evolve into an argument, so it's good think I can talk openly to most of my friends about personal issues.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 10 November 2003 10:08 (twenty-two years ago)

classic on ILX, dud in 'real life'

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 10 November 2003 10:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Dud. I always lose.

― Bryan (Bryan), Monday, 10 November 2003 10:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Do you sometimes just look for an argument though?

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 10 November 2003 10:12 (twenty-two years ago)

i don't like them.
my male peer group in high school thought they were cool. senseless provocation, ridiculous personal baiting, sophistry rampant.
it fucked me up.

― gaz (gaz), Monday, 10 November 2003 10:15 (twenty-two years ago)

That's me all over. I had a mahoosive one with my mum about public sector pay or something, for no good reason, on Saturday. I think I'm trying to liberate people one at a time.

― Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 10 November 2003 10:16 (twenty-two years ago)

No, pp. I personally try to avoid them almost at all costs, but I'm going to try to argue more as I think I'm prone to passive-aggression which is (almost) worse than being argumentative.

― Bryan (Bryan), Monday, 10 November 2003 10:19 (twenty-two years ago)

i meant that question in general btw, but I know what you mean Bryan.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 10 November 2003 10:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I sometimes get a lot from arguing, but the main problem is that the person you're arguing with (for it to be enjoyable) needs to be on *exactly* the same wavelength as you, otherwise it gets nasty or confusing and upsetting.

― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 10 November 2003 10:26 (twenty-two years ago)

haha my mum told that the last pArish council meeting was wrecked by a furious argt between two silverback alpha males

mark s: "what did they disagree about?"
mum s: "nothing, they were on the same side"

she wanted to know what to put in the minutes: the secret true answer = "oh no! fite! OH NO!!" but she wd not understand the ref, so i said put:

*HUBBUB ENSUES*

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 10 November 2003 11:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I hate arguing with people, which a lot of you are going to laugh your asses off at. But I'm serious, because I like to pretend that I'm just right about everything and that should be the end of it, but of course it isn't, and usually when I'm not interested in getting into detail about why I do or don't agree with someone, which is most of the time, it's just a pain in the fucking ass. So dud.

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 10 November 2003 11:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I hate arguing and will go to great lengths to avoid it. This has two consequences. One is that not healthy in that avoiding confrontation can mean suppressing resentment / irritation beyond the point of healthy 'not starting a fight because you're a bit disgruntled' territory into a building up simmering discontent and frustration zone. The second is that I would be a rubbish philosopher, as I take things very personally and find it hard to argue 'for fun' or lightly. ILX has actually helped me get over this a bit and learn to a) detach and b) formulate my thoughts *as* arguments, but I still avoid argumentative threads unless my specific expertise makes me sure I have something to contribute.

― alext (alext), Monday, 10 November 2003 12:23 (twenty-two years ago)

arguments always make me cry. :-(

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 10 November 2003 12:33 (twenty-two years ago)

All of 'em? I'm very much an argue-for-the-sake-of it type twat. I can't help it, and will often end up arguing against what I really thing, mainly cos I can't stand smugness, which often derives from the conceit that we're all agreed, or that all the big questions have been answered. It's usually a bad habit, but once upon I got into drunken, physical fights about music, so things have improved

― Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 10 November 2003 12:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, unless it's one that i deliberately started as i was looking for an argument type.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 10 November 2003 12:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I love arguing, but only with someone who teases and gives good tease in return.

― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Monday, 10 November 2003 12:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean, only with someone who likes being teased.

― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Monday, 10 November 2003 12:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Only if you have make up sex after!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 10 November 2003 12:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Unless of course you are arguing with your parents! eurgh!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 10 November 2003 12:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Not in the Parish Council tho'

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― Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 10 November 2003 12:43 (twenty-two years ago)

what qualifies as an argument? is it just a disagreement?

i dislike it when people seek to argue instead of seeking common ground.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 10 November 2003 13:16 (twenty-two years ago)

i dislike it especially when i do it

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 10 November 2003 13:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Anything qualifies

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 10 November 2003 13:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I actually really enjoy arguing on many levels. In a way, it's almost like I sometimes argue for fun. (HSA and I have a whole series of arguments that we hash out when we're feeling bored - Religion, the Monarchy, Fascism, etc. etc. etc.) What is the point of hanging around with people that you agree with all the time? Disagreements are always more entertaining and stimulating. I'm naturally contrary, I'll often argue just for the sake of arguing, and switch "sides" depending on who I'm talking to.

I don't shy away from proper arguments at work, either. I don't understand people who avoid conflict. If something is up, then hash it out and talk about it - better to argue and resolve something than to just let the issue drag on for years.

Unfortunately, all the members of my family feel the same way, so we've got some arguments that have literally dragged on for years. That can get a bit annoying sometimes.

But otherwise, arguments are classic.

― Citizen Kate (kate), Monday, 10 November 2003 13:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I had a loud argument on the street once. oh, it was so cinematic. (felt sort of good)

― penelope (penelope), Monday, 10 November 2003 13:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I hope this thread turns into a serious argument. That would be classic.

― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Monday, 10 November 2003 13:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, you *would* say that, fuckface

― Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 10 November 2003 13:26 (twenty-two years ago)

*cries*

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 10 November 2003 13:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Wot Barry Lasagne said.

Smee in disagreeing with PinkP shockah!

― smee (smee), Monday, 10 November 2003 13:28 (twenty-two years ago)

*gasps again* the only thing is smee, i do like to argue sometimes!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 10 November 2003 13:29 (twenty-two years ago)

No you don't!

― smee (smee), Monday, 10 November 2003 13:29 (twenty-two years ago)

shut it!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 10 November 2003 13:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Or you'll do what?

― smee (smee), Monday, 10 November 2003 13:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I dislike ppl that always disagree on purpose just so they can have an argument with you. Unfortunately I know one person like that.

But args on ILX are ok.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 10 November 2003 13:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Once again Colin is ignored. No-one will turn their face into a heart for Colin.

― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Monday, 10 November 2003 13:31 (twenty-two years ago)

who said that?

― Matt (Matt), Monday, 10 November 2003 13:31 (twenty-two years ago)

What are you saying julio?

Don't push me smee!

quiet colin!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 10 November 2003 13:31 (twenty-two years ago)

*shoves PinkP and adopts hands on hips pose*

― smee (smee), Monday, 10 November 2003 13:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Ladies, this is not an argument. This is a cat-fight.

― Citizen Kate (kate), Monday, 10 November 2003 13:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I have not scratched or pulled hair once...yet!

― smee (smee), Monday, 10 November 2003 13:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I see those drawn mascara wands!

― Citizen Kate (kate), Monday, 10 November 2003 13:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Enguarde!

― smee (smee), Monday, 10 November 2003 13:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll classic your dud.

― Spinktor the Unmerciful (mawill5), Monday, 10 November 2003 13:41 (twenty-two years ago)

No more arguments for me today.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 10 November 2003 14:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah that was rough.....I may need therapy...

― smee (smee), Monday, 10 November 2003 14:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Disagreements are unavoidable. Some disagreements can be ignored to the satisafaction and profit of all parties involved. Others must be brought into the open, examined, discussed and resolved in some way, because no other approach can possibly give satisafaction.

Consequently, learning how to argue in a fair and civil manner is highly desirable, because the alternatives are all far worse. We've all met people whose idea of an argument is to browbeat us into submission. Then there are the evaders, obfuscators and the terminally vague.

Arguing with someone who is emotionally secure and understands civility: classic. Arguing with someone who never learned how to cope with honest disagreements: dud.

― Aimless, Monday, 10 November 2003 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I really, really like ones that stay reasonably calm and friendly, and I often sort of like those where you can get righteously angry with people you dislike.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 10 November 2003 20:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Having said that I don't see the point in arguments, i am fucking good in meetings and such - but this is because I am a master of coercion.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 10 November 2003 20:26 (twenty-two years ago)

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