1. David Lynch2. Martin Scorsese3. Joel and Ethan Coen4. Steven Soderbergh5. Terrence Malick6. Abbas Kiarostami7. Errol Morris8. Hayao Miyazaki9. David Cronenberg10. Terence Davies11. Lukas Moodysson12. Lynne Ramsay13. Bela Tarr14. Wong Kar-wai15. Pedro Almodovar16. Todd Haynes17. Quentin Tarantino18. Tsai Ming-Liang19. Aki Kaurismaki20. Michael Winterbottom21. Paul Thomas Anderson22. Michael Haneke23. Walter Salles24. Alexander Payne25. Spike Jonze26. Aleksandr Sokurov27. Ang Lee28. Michael Moore29. Wes Anderson30. Takeshi Kitano31. Richard Linklater32. Gaspar Noé33. Pavel Pawlikowski34. David O Russell35. Larry and Andy Wachowski36. Samira Makhmalbaf37. Lars von Trier38. Takashi Miike39. David Fincher40. Gus Van Sant
Who was left off? Who should have been left off? Where the FUCK is Spielberg?
Ok, i know list threads are kind of boring so please feel free to turn this into a "current state of cinema" discussion.
― ryan (ryan), Friday, 14 November 2003 20:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― chester (synkro), Friday, 14 November 2003 20:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 14 November 2003 20:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Friday, 14 November 2003 20:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 14 November 2003 20:52 (twenty-two years ago)
Where are David Gordon Green, Julio Medem, and Curtis Hanson?
Where the FUCK is Spielberg?
Where he belongs! ;)
Interesting to see Walter Salles so high...
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 14 November 2003 20:55 (twenty-two years ago)
And where are s1utsky and Anhtony Miccio???
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 14 November 2003 20:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 14 November 2003 20:57 (twenty-two years ago)
Errol Morris did "Gates of Heaven" (doc about a pet cemetary) which is beautiful.
― ryan (ryan), Friday, 14 November 2003 20:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― ryan (ryan), Friday, 14 November 2003 21:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 14 November 2003 21:01 (twenty-two years ago)
Exactly. This list is very rockist.
― o. nate (onate), Friday, 14 November 2003 21:01 (twenty-two years ago)
Yes he is, but his exclusion seems deliberate whereas leaving Michael Mann off (whatever his MANY faults) just seems like a glaring oversight...
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 14 November 2003 21:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jay Dee Sah Mon (Kingfish), Friday, 14 November 2003 21:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 14 November 2003 21:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Friday, 14 November 2003 21:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 14 November 2003 21:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― ryan (ryan), Friday, 14 November 2003 21:14 (twenty-two years ago)
I do see your point though.
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 14 November 2003 21:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jack St E (Jack St E), Friday, 14 November 2003 21:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 14 November 2003 21:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 14 November 2003 21:25 (twenty-two years ago)
I don't know, isn't Mann one of the most humorless directors currently working?
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 14 November 2003 21:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― s1utsky (slutsky), Friday, 14 November 2003 21:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 14 November 2003 21:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 14 November 2003 22:02 (twenty-two years ago)
also, if you have lynne ramsay, you have to have david gordon green on it too, by principle alone.
― todd swiss (eliti), Friday, 14 November 2003 22:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― s1utsky (slutsky), Friday, 14 November 2003 22:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 14 November 2003 22:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 14 November 2003 22:22 (twenty-two years ago)
Larry Clark would be #1 on that category alone! ;)
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 14 November 2003 22:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Friday, 14 November 2003 22:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 14 November 2003 22:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jay Dee Sah Mon (Kingfish), Saturday, 15 November 2003 00:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle, Saturday, 15 November 2003 00:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― Leee Majors (Leee), Saturday, 15 November 2003 00:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― oops (Oops), Saturday, 15 November 2003 01:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Saturday, 15 November 2003 01:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― ryan (ryan), Saturday, 15 November 2003 01:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― oops (Oops), Saturday, 15 November 2003 01:16 (twenty-two years ago)
should be lower:CoensMiyazakiCronenburg Lynn Ramsay
shouldnt bloody be on there:SoderburghPavel PawlikowskiLinklaterMichael fuckin Moore
― jed (jed_e_3), Saturday, 15 November 2003 03:17 (twenty-two years ago)
(And, yes, Fog of War has shown. It was just here in Minneapolis. I had to miss it, though, in order to make time to see Peter Watkins' La Commune.)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 15 November 2003 03:23 (twenty-two years ago)
― jed (jed_e_3), Saturday, 15 November 2003 03:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Saturday, 15 November 2003 03:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 15 November 2003 03:43 (twenty-two years ago)
denis and breillat - yes also, im seeing now how crazy this list is!
― jed (jed_e_3), Saturday, 15 November 2003 03:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― rgeary (rgeary), Saturday, 15 November 2003 04:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew L (Andrew L), Monday, 17 November 2003 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew L (Andrew L), Monday, 17 November 2003 20:28 (twenty-two years ago)
Many of the directors listed are screenwriters.
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 17 November 2003 21:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 17 November 2003 21:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― enrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 09:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― Girolamo Savonarola, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 13:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― enrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 13:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― Girolamo Savonarola, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 13:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― enrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 13:33 (twenty-two years ago)
He polled his readers and among 60 discrete suggestions, got "not a single vote for Steven Spielberg, Spike Lee, or Ang Lee. Nada for Pedro Almodóvar or any Spanish-language filmmaker. Or any African, Italian, or Russian one. Jane Campion was the only woman filmmaker to get more than one vote. The other female directors who made ballots: Chantal Akerman, Elaine May, Claire Denis."
http://thephoenix.com/article_ektid10519.aspx
Mine: Bergman, Godard, Ousmane Sembene, Altman, Eric Rohmer, Scorsese, Shohei Imamura.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 18:49 (nineteen years ago)
Mine: Sembene, Kiarostami, de Oliviera, Godard, Imamura, Hou Hsiao Hsien, Sokurov.
― TRG (TRG), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 05:29 (nineteen years ago)
i dont include the likes of bergman and antonioni because neither has made anything worth while since the 60's basically
― t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 06:35 (nineteen years ago)
DW GriffithMax OlphusDouglas SirkLeni RefiensthalAkira KurwasawaLiliana CavaniRanier FassbinderFelliniWong Kar-waiErrol Morris
another ten victor fleming,alfred hitchcock,jean luc godard, quentin tarintino,william castle,sergi eisenstein, robert altman, nicholas ray,ernst lubitschwerner herzog
and a last tengeorge cukor,robert bresson, william wyler,brian de palma, tarkosvsky,otto preimger, john waters,kieslowski, kenneth anger,bob fosse, ,
its utterly shameful how little women are on that list, and it tends towards domestic melodrama, i know
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 07:08 (nineteen years ago)
― the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 09:45 (nineteen years ago)
Pedro Almodovar (probably the most consistently good director of the last 20 years)Jim JarmuschJean-Pierre JeunetHiroyuki Tanaka aka SabuHayao MiyazakiPeter Jackson (has never made a bad film)Ang LeeTerry Gilliam
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 10:22 (nineteen years ago)
lolololol
but he's not as bad as almodovar.
― the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 10:24 (nineteen years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 10:33 (nineteen years ago)
What's wrong with Almodovar?
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 10:43 (nineteen years ago)
― the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 10:45 (nineteen years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 10:48 (nineteen years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 10:58 (nineteen years ago)
― the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 11:00 (nineteen years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 11:02 (nineteen years ago)
-- Tuomas (lixnix...), May 3rd, 2006.
yeah cos in spain that's an apolitical stance.
― the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 11:03 (nineteen years ago)
― Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 11:08 (nineteen years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 11:11 (nineteen years ago)
(xx-post)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 11:14 (nineteen years ago)
― the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 11:20 (nineteen years ago)
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 11:24 (nineteen years ago)
eh?
― Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 11:24 (nineteen years ago)
― the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 11:30 (nineteen years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 11:36 (nineteen years ago)
He's not the one claiming that Almoldovar is self-evidently a rubbish director.
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 11:56 (nineteen years ago)
― the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 12:04 (nineteen years ago)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 12:17 (nineteen years ago)
― TRG (TRG), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 12:40 (nineteen years ago)
you actually enjoy griffith and riefenstahl?
They're both essential film grammarians (and Godard has made about 3 'enjoyable' films in his career).
Second living seven: Kiarostami, Spielberg, Leigh, M Makhmalbaf, Cronenberg, Coppola, and either Polanski, Hou, Woody, Tsai or Lumet.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 12:59 (nineteen years ago)
k, but who's putting actual grammarians in their list of favourite writers?
(and Godard has made about 3 'enjoyable' films in his career).
pshaw!
― the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 13:09 (nineteen years ago)
actually naw, i'm not doing it, there's hardly any directors where i've seen everything they've done, or when they have, they haven't made very many films at all! so, y'know, 'michel gondry', 'cept that one of his two films released to date was a bit rubbish. 'alain resnais' but i've not seen 'muriel'. 'antonioni' based on too many vcr viewings.
i think linklater is the only director on my list where i've seen all of their films (except 'bad news bears').
― the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 13:15 (nineteen years ago)
I was trying to think if I left out any Outside the Usual Paradigm directors whose new work I invariably run to see, and there's one: George Kuchar (Mike K would likely be in the top 25 too).
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 May 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)
lols. novels have been around c. 300 years, films... 110 years. so active filmmakers from 1/3 - 1/2 of cinema history are still going.
― the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Thursday, 4 May 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)
― TRG (TRG), Thursday, 4 May 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)
Best living seven (even though all but one are well past their peak): Allen, Herzog, Scorsese, Fukasaki, Wong Kar Wai, Polanski, Malick.
Best ever alive or dead:Lang, Kubrick, Kurosawa, Melville, Hitchcock, Leone, Polanski.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 4 May 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 4 May 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 4 May 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 4 May 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)
Don't know of any '30s directors besides de Oliveira; with Robert Wise dead, I can't even think of one right now who stretches back to the '40s other than Bergman.
so active filmmakers from 1/3 - 1/2 of cinema history are still going.
Yeah, and in the last 25 years most seem as bereft of ideas as post-1970 fiction writers.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 May 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)
― TRG (TRG), Thursday, 4 May 2006 18:45 (nineteen years ago)