Jury Duty Dilemna!!!! HELP HELP HELP!

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Alright. So, the tentacles of the system tapped my shoulder once again, and I dutifully reported for jury duty yesterday. A huge hassle, as I'm sure everyone here knows, I managed to excuse myself off of one voir-dire yesterday due to my involvement in a prior lawsuit that my then co-op board (on which I'd been serving as secretary) was involved in. Today, however, I was called into to be panelled for a case that they expect will take as long as TWO MONTHS and that involved no fewer than twenty lawyers!! They asked if anyone believed they had serious problems with being able to serve this amount of time. Predictably, nine tenths of the panel raised their hands, myself included. Individually, they brought us into a small room (in front of the judge and all twenty lawyers) to hear why we might have problem. I explained that my wife is pregnant, and...to a lesser extent..that it would be highly inconvenient for my department at work to cover for me for such a long stretch. I was also typically surly and scowly (in a black Killing Joke t-shirt, of course). No dice. They asked me to come back on Thursday for the second round of voir dire.

This doesn't mean I'm definetely on the jury for this case, but I really wanted...fuck that, NEEDEDHOW DO I ENSURE MY DISMISSAL FROM THIS JURY? I'm going into work to have my boss draft a letter explaining what a hardship it will be for my department to lose my services for such a potentially lengthy period. My wife is very much indeed pregnant....I'm somewhat shocked that didn't sway them in my favour. Just shy of threatening to be a distracted, non-compliant and potentially disruptive juror (which might land me in "contempt of court" trouble), what do I have to do to make sure I don't get picked?

Should I dust off my most offensive Pussy Galore t-shirt? Maintain that Charles Manson was a criminally misunderstood genius? Wet my pants and walk into the interview with a big yellow stain? WHAT MUST I DO?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:35 (twenty-two years ago)

wearing Klan regalia is a surefire out, I'm guessing

mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe you should watch that Pauly Shore movie to find out

Vic (Vic), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Is this the new "This is the thread where I . . . "?

felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:43 (twenty-two years ago)

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:46 (twenty-two years ago)

If it was going to be such a hardship, can I ask why did you even respond to the summons?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:46 (twenty-two years ago)

(I mean, apart from it being your civic duty)

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:47 (twenty-two years ago)

You have to somehow really make it into a health issue, but it's strange that the pregnancy didn't have any effect. Otherwise, it is very difficult to get around this

Vic (Vic), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:49 (twenty-two years ago)

well they scare you into thinking that you'll get fined if you don't (duh!). Although from second-hand experience, this doesn't happen (at least in California); so many people don't show up or don't call or just plain forget, they just let it ride.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:51 (twenty-two years ago)

this is not true in New York City

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:52 (twenty-two years ago)

If it was going to be such a hardship, can I ask why did you even respond to the summons?

Well, I didn't expect to be dangled precariously over the gaping jaws of a two-month case. Normally it's just a week-long jobee and that's that. The timing for this, however, is completely poor and a two-month stint is just completely unacceptable right now.

And, in any case, they always find me. And they follow up.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:53 (twenty-two years ago)

does this really happen in NYC??? In most areas, if you just don't respond to the summons at all, they don't follow up and if they do, you can simply claim to have not received it (unless it was sent via registered mail).

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:55 (twenty-two years ago)

alex
quit bitching, the only way that we can make the system fair for those who do not have 20 lawyers.

go to jury duty, be a good citizen, it will be a lesson for the future kid.

anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:55 (twenty-two years ago)

tell them about your homocidal fantasies towards those who practice law.

hstencil, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:55 (twenty-two years ago)

nb - I have always responded!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Am I the only person here who actually LIKES jury duty? Of course my mitigating factor is that I work for the state so I automatically get paid for it no matter how long the case takes.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:58 (twenty-two years ago)

anthony easton and Spencer OTM

felicity (felicity), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:58 (twenty-two years ago)

my last suggestion was definitely OFF the mark.

hstencil, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 23:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I loved Jury duty, but hey I hated my job at the time and so four weeks sitting in court three at the Old Bailey was fantastic. Even if we did get told to take different routes home every few days and talk to no-one as the accused's friends were in the gallery watching us, and they were known for "approaching" jurors.

But them not being considerate of your Mrs being with kid just plain sucks.

chris (chris), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 23:01 (twenty-two years ago)

alex
quit bitching, the only way that we can make the system fair for those who do not have 20 lawyers.

Okay, how about I give them yours and Felicity's addresses and tell them to call you, then? That sound good?

go to jury duty, be a good citizen, it will be a lesson for the future kid.

I'm at jury duty. I'm being a good citizen. I'd happily serve on a more conventional case. Two months, however, is something I cannot do in good conscience.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 23:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I could do it for you, Alex, I'm bored as hell these days.

hstencil, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 23:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Thanks, Stence! You're a champ.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 23:04 (twenty-two years ago)

no sweat. Weirdly enough, I've never ever been called.

hstencil, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 23:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I fell asleep at my jury duty picking game and I still got picked.

I can screen print you a t-shirt that says "My Other Car is a Vagina" with a pic of Mr. T on it.

I do not know what this means but I just read the what do you drive thread and that was worse than jury duty.

Carey (Carey), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 23:11 (twenty-two years ago)

say the most bigoted, offensive thing about a minority group that you can imagine. (then run like fuck outta the court-room after being dismissed if a member of said minority group is in the court-room.)

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 23:27 (twenty-two years ago)


Am I the only person here who actually LIKES jury duty? Of course my mitigating factor is that I work for the state so I automatically get paid for it no
matter how long the case takes.

Hear hear! (I've been called...four times now? Sounds right.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 23:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I guess you just drew the short straw, Alex. However, what would happen if your wife went into labour during your stint? They couldn't just pull you out, could they?

Try and figure out what work you can do around the trial. In the UK you're only in court for 5 hours or so per day - if falling behind at work is a worry you should still have time to keep up with some stuff.

Otherwise, it's your duty. I'm sorry.

Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 00:01 (twenty-two years ago)

i got called for JD in late June ... as it turned out, i was called for a murder trial slated to last 2 weeks. i got out by saying that i was going on vacation outta town (which was true) -- i later found out that the judge was REAL lenient wr2 letting folks out (on the theory that it's better to have a jury w/ people who actually WANT to be there).

in NJ, it used to be that lawyers were automatically exempt from JD. NO MORE! i'm a worse citizen than either gabb or felicity HAW!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 00:12 (twenty-two years ago)

My experience with JD is that the laywers usually ask if you've ever had an experience similar to the one being tried now, and if you were satisfied with the police/courts actions and results. If you say no the defense lawyer will excuse you in the belief that you're out for blood now.

nickn (nickn), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 00:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Just try to figure out the worst possible answers to all the questions they ask you. Say that you're very judgemental about these things, and have no sympathy whatsoever. Essentially try to get the defense to throw you out - that can't be that hard, now, can it?

Girolamo Savonarola, Wednesday, 19 November 2003 00:32 (twenty-two years ago)

See: Harvey Pekar

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 00:33 (twenty-two years ago)

i've never been called either :(

i want to be on a jury w.momus

judge: "have you reached a verdict yet?"
foreman: "don't be silly, m'lud"

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 00:36 (twenty-two years ago)

some site said to, as the charges are being read, stare at the defendant and shake your head from side to side while frowning.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 00:37 (twenty-two years ago)

maybe wag a finger at them and then drag it across yr throat...

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 00:38 (twenty-two years ago)

..or tease them with a "thumbs up" before plummeting said thumb downwards.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 00:40 (twenty-two years ago)

i haven't read the whole thread so sorry if these are redundant but my parents use these lines (and for them it's true!)

1) no i've NEVER used drugs and i think people that do are EVIL
2) no i've NEVER known a person that's been arrested and i think people who are arrested are EVIL
3) i think drunk drivers SHOULD BE SHOT

that should cover all the bases for most criminal trials but i don't know what to tell you if it's a civil trial... maybe

4) i tend to side STRONGLY with the prosecution NO MATTER WHAT THE FACTS

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 00:41 (twenty-two years ago)

reading back over the thread nickn's suggestion is totally great, too. (and girolama said what i did more concisely)

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 00:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Just don't be obvious that you're trying to get thrown out, because that will piss off the judge. If you invent a similar case that happened to you, flesh it out before hand in case the judge asks you about it.

nickn (nickn), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 00:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Okay the SURE FIRE way to get excused for ANY sort of jury duty (EXCEPT Grand Jury Duty which if you get than you are JUST FUCKED) is to:

a) Have gone to college (preferably with a master's degree, but bachelors is fine.)
b) Make sure you ASK a lot of questions about WHAT exactly the lawyers mean when they say can you be fair about something (this really helps if the case is business related, it can harder to pull off if it's murder.) Example: Q: "Do you blame the general failings of the economy on the actions of individuals?" A: "You mean other than the president of the United States."
c) Be generally snarky and seem unpredictable. Make numerous references (loud enough for the lawyers and plaintiff/defendants and fellow jurors to hear, but not for the judge) to scrapping the whole awards process and instead forcing the defendant to throw a picnic in the park for the plaintiff as a judgement.
d) Don't claim to be racist. Don't refuse to answer questions. ESPECIALLY don't claim to have ANY specific knowledge ("I am a tax attorney and uh I would be biased to the defendant" bought one guy two weeks of being FOREMAN the last time I was called for regular jury duty) of the case in question. THIS does not disqualify you EVEN if you try to pretend that this knowledge impairs you impartiality. It just makes you look stupid and the LAWYERS want stupid people.

Have fun and good luck.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 00:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Note: my karmic punishment for avoiding jury duty for MANY years (often using the time tested methods mentioned above) was GETTING locked into Grand Jury Duty TWICE a week for FOUR months. So use caution, sometimes things can get worse.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 00:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Alex, somehow I dodged the Jury Duty bullet all my years in NYC, er, ever. (You didn't want to know, but wait for it....) Though they DID call me once I moved to London.

Can you plead being a new parent? Who'd want to miss 4 months of being with their new baby, to get cold coffee in the morning and a rock-hard bed?

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 01:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I like jury duty, by the way, I've served about 8 times but I'm sure I'd try to get out of a 2-month stint too. It's a great break from work, gives me time to read when in the jury pool, and is a much shorter day than my job gives me - I was home by 4 or 5, usually, and sometimes earlier.

Uh, and Sarah Silverman to thread!

nickn (nickn), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 01:04 (twenty-two years ago)

aargh - I got a jury notice today also - WTF IS GOING ON???

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 01:32 (twenty-two years ago)

this is like the third jury notice I've gotten in five years. wtf - does nooone fucking vote in this county?

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 01:33 (twenty-two years ago)

someone is trying to depopulate ilx!

blount and alex on same jury =
judge: "have you reached a verdict yet?"
foreman: *rolls eyes disgustedly*
*far-off sound of furniture being smashed against bone*

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 01:36 (twenty-two years ago)

"honour the fire" vs. "so fresh, so clean"

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 01:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I ducked jury duty because I was looking for work at the time. As it turned out the case I avoided was the Shipman murder trial (note for non-Brits: scary serial killer doctor who injected many old ladies to death, huge media furore, biggest mass murderer in British history, I think). I often wonder what it would have been like, but on balance I think I'm glad I avoided it as I was flat broke at the time and HMG paid "expenses" wouldn't really have cut it. Nevertheless...

I I got called up again I'd go as civic duty n'all, but Alex in NYC has the best reasons for avoiding it I can think of.

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 01:55 (twenty-two years ago)

don't lie! it's awful in general and horrible in a court. Tell the truth--that you don't know what's going to happen in this pregnancy and if your wife needed to go to the hospital, you'd be leaving the courtroom to be with her, contempt of court charges be damned.

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 02:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Holy shit wow, I never fully realised it was so commonplace to be called for this in America. Up here (Canoodia) it seems just as likely that we'll *never* be called. I've never had a notice, and I think I only know just a handful who have been served.

Kim (Kim), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 02:17 (twenty-two years ago)

that's cause all you canucks vote (ergo: larger jury pool) and don't kill each other with guns (ergo: less reasons to be called up for jury duty)

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 02:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Amst. and felicity otm. People Alex is not considering:
1) the parties to the case,
2) the other potential jurors
3) the court (read: the judge)/system

(though it's not like I haven't gotten out of two cases in NYC in my time, because they would have interfered with school; now I wish I could have seen a jury operate)

Moreover, we didn't START until 10am. Why didn't they ask us to be there earlier? The lack of consideration is completely appalling.

Because judges just sit around all day. They don't have any work to do.

I think if they made a better effort to compensate jury duty (ie either compulsory full-day pay from the govt or forcing person's employer to do same)

I believe in NYC you get paid a certain amount (not large) a day, whether or not you are sat on a jury. There may also be a financial hardship out.

Yes, little old ladies and the unemployed are all stupid or corrupt, I've noticed.

whether or not they are stupid or corrupt, they are unrepresentative.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 21 November 2003 04:50 (twenty-two years ago)

oh don't you lawyers start guilt trippin us now!

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 21 November 2003 04:53 (twenty-two years ago)

my jury notice instructed us to "PLEASE DO NOT WEAR A TEE-SHIRT": is this normal or do you hafta live in a super classy county like mine to get this instruction?

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 21 November 2003 04:54 (twenty-two years ago)

New York county ain't as classy as Cobb(?).

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 21 November 2003 05:04 (twenty-two years ago)

if "civic duty" relies on ppl. needing to be cajoled to be "good citizens" then it ain't being set up right.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 21 November 2003 05:06 (twenty-two years ago)

OTM

the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 21 November 2003 05:06 (twenty-two years ago)

i.e. any system you havta morally browbeat people not to "beat" is a poor system.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 21 November 2003 05:07 (twenty-two years ago)

New York county ain't as classy as Cobb(?).

You live in Cobb County? Like, right outside Atlanta?

Girolamo Savonarola, Friday, 21 November 2003 05:07 (twenty-two years ago)

no - muthafukk cobb county! I'm in oconee, right outside of athens

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 21 November 2003 05:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, Cobb is a wretched hive of scum (West Cobb) and villainy (East Cobb). I can't say much nice about Marietta either. Thank God I don't live there anymore.

Girolamo Savonarola, Friday, 21 November 2003 05:12 (twenty-two years ago)

plus they send their daughters here to break my heart!

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 21 November 2003 05:13 (twenty-two years ago)

lest we forget, i'm a lawyer too. and sterling's right on this one. damn right i'd try to get outta jury duty if i could. i'm also not a litigator.

my heart goes out to alex ... think jaz coleman thoughts while yer waiting in the jury pool.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 21 November 2003 06:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Alex, the amount of "suck it up, do your duty" shit you're getting on here is ridiculous and really off-putting. I hope everything works out for you.

Clarke B. (stolenbus), Friday, 21 November 2003 06:39 (twenty-two years ago)

id like to live in the world that meets your expectations sterling but i dont

amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 21 November 2003 11:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Certainly when I did jury duty it was for longer than 5 hours per day mark! I really enjoyed jury duty but got pulled from the case as I knew one of the ppl involved in the case. It's so stupid to not make the names of those ppl who will testify available to the jury beforehand. I would do it personally if I was you Alex, but I understand your dilema with regards to your pregnant lady. I would've thought this would have got you out of it. Sorry my friend. Maybe you could always say (if you are chosen) that you already have a strong bias towards the defendant & you don't feel that you could be unbias in your decision making. Surely they cannot continue to use you if you have already stated this.

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 21 November 2003 11:47 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.nerdyboy.com/img/b3ta/michael_jackson_on_the_run.jpg

run, alex, RUN.

crack baby, Friday, 21 November 2003 11:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I wondered how long it would take for that pic to appear on here!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 21 November 2003 12:07 (twenty-two years ago)

(though it's not like I haven't gotten out of two cases in NYC in my time, because they would have interfered with school; now I wish I could have seen a jury operate)

For a start, I've seen the jury system operate. I've been on more juries than you've had hot fuckin' dinners. And I think my reason for wanting to be sprung (a pregnant wife) trumps your reason (school interference) every damn day of the week!

I think if they made a better effort to compensate jury duty (ie either compulsory full-day pay from the govt or forcing person's employer to do same)...I believe in NYC you get paid a certain amount (not large) a day, whether or not you are sat on a jury. There may also be a financial hardship out.

My reasons for not wanting to serve have never been about money. I'm paid by my employer. My freelancing gigs will be hurt, but it's not about money at all.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 21 November 2003 13:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Going back in ten minutes. Watch this space for an update later today....hopefully sooner than later.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 21 November 2003 13:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Good luck, Alex.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Friday, 21 November 2003 13:50 (twenty-two years ago)

This seems so idiotic to me, it's not as if you are going to say, it's ok my wife has just gone into labour, but I'll carry on listening to the case! How stupid is that?

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 21 November 2003 13:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I kiss you, Pinkpanther!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 21 November 2003 13:52 (twenty-two years ago)

WHY THANKYOU! ;-)

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 21 November 2003 13:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Rah! *awaits results*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 November 2003 15:39 (twenty-two years ago)

For a start, I've seen the jury system operate. I've been on more juries than you've had hot fuckin' dinners.
My uncle has the same problem. He gets called in for jury duty every year. This is broken, because in the state of Massachusetts, you can onlt be called for jury duty once every other year, maximum.
Funny thing is, my aunt (who is currently unemployed and has plenty of free time) has never been called up. Not even once. And she vocally insists she'd love to be on a jury, just for the experience.

Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Friday, 21 November 2003 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

When I was living in Pennsylvania, I was sent a jury duty notice. When I arrived at the courthouse there were about 50-70 people there in the courtroom waiting to be selected. What I did not realize was that they were choosing the juries for 12 cases that day from the people in the room. So they told us that we could very well be picked for 3 juries or none. Is this common? I was so confused.

Carey (Carey), Friday, 21 November 2003 17:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I'VE BEEN SPRUNG!

After yet another agonizing morning of waiting around and countless instances of inefficent shenanigans, they finally got around to the second batch of prospective jurors (self included therein). When they got to me, they practically imediately conceded (I guess my constant fidgeting, glaring and fang-baring gave them the clue), and I was released. Two of the twenty (!!!) lawyers came up to me as we broke for lunch (after I'd been excused) and expressed their apologies, admitting that when they'd heard I had a pregnant wife, they expected I'd be a reluctant juror and blah blah blah... They were perfectly nice about it, truthfully, but by then I was so relieved that they could've been speaking in Klingon for all I was absorbing. I tell ya, after being so tense and angry and anxiety-ridden for the last three days, I feel positively hungover.

Anyway, that's that. Thanks to everyone's advice and support.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 21 November 2003 18:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Hurrah! Glad that burden is gone, congratulations. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 November 2003 18:57 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.fakecrap.com/images/jokes/billy_bob_teeth/vampire.jpg

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 21 November 2003 18:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Thankya thankya thankya, Nedrick. Playing the Rhino "No Thanks" box set (courtesy of the New Yorker) in celebration as we speak.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 21 November 2003 18:58 (twenty-two years ago)

cool!

(my back-up plan wz you shd print out ilx threads and read them out doing all the voices)

mark s (mark s), Friday, 21 November 2003 19:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I find the idea of reading out ilx threads doing the voices more hilarious that it ought to be.

Ed (dali), Friday, 21 November 2003 19:49 (twenty-two years ago)

THE NYC BAR HONOURS THE FIRE!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 21 November 2003 19:53 (twenty-two years ago)

hahaha would YOU want THIS man sitting on a jury deciding if you walk free or go to jail, or if yer gonna get a big-ass payment in a slip-and-fall case?

http://members.aol.com/motelhell/KJ-Webster-Hall-2003/images/JazRaven2.jpg

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 21 November 2003 19:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I find the idea of reading out ilx threads doing the voices more hilarious that it ought to be.

No, it's pretty hysterical. ILX Theatre would be pretty fantastic.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Friday, 21 November 2003 20:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Ned's next album!

teeny (teeny), Friday, 21 November 2003 20:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Good to hear, Alex.

Here's my New York juror story:

My summons came in spring 2002 to serve jury duty at the Supreme Court in downtown Brooklyn. "Supreme Court" sounds like hot shit (not that it would affect my hatred of civic obligation) but in New York-- gotcha-- it's the court in which trial cases are first heard. After a Lionel Hutz-narrated orientation to your duty as a juror, with what I think was a musical number, hundreds of average drips took our seats on the hard benches. Morning, day two: I was called into a 50-person pool for voir dire on what was evidently a serious assault case. For a day and a half, we were kept STANDING in a hallway upstairs while a plea was worked out. Every time the door to the empanelling room opened, dozens of frustrated potential jurors, driven mad by aching legs and in a kind of shock from the inhuman interior design, looked at whoever came out like they wanted to take a rock hammer to some skulls. A young guy who looked to be the defendant was brought in and out in front of this hate chorale, and after a few iterations gave up on his jury trial. So we were free to eat at Juniors or whatever, fuck yeah.

I suppose three days split evenly between the waiting rooms and STANDING in a hallway beats a potential two month trial, but neither fills me with any desire to serve on a jury. But HStencil: it was made clear that volunteering for jury service is a-okay, if you're really all that bored.

Benjamin (benjamin), Friday, 21 November 2003 20:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Ned's next album!

I was about to say!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 November 2003 20:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes! He could do the trucker hat thread.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Friday, 21 November 2003 20:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I was gonna say extended dance remix, but no fucking way.

teeny (teeny), Friday, 21 November 2003 20:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, give it time...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 November 2003 20:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Or how about the "Women, How Many Bras Do You Have?" thread? That might be more your forte.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Friday, 21 November 2003 20:30 (twenty-two years ago)

That would have to be a duet with Dan, who sings part of the posts.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 November 2003 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Alex, this is the biggest mistake of your life! The case is about aspestos, a material used for protecting things and people from the effects of flame - in other words, you have just turned down a role in a case all about HONOURING THE FIRE!!!!!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 21 November 2003 20:34 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.an-irrational-domain.net/images/jaz/habloodyha.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 21 November 2003 20:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I am happy you did your duty, Alex and even happier it worked out for you.

felicity (felicity), Saturday, 22 November 2003 02:18 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.mtv-china.com/avzone/photo/video/1thriller.jpg

Dada, Saturday, 22 November 2003 02:37 (twenty-two years ago)

twenty lawyers?! holy crap

amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 22 November 2003 13:15 (twenty-two years ago)

This thread made for some engaging reading, I'll have you know.

Alex, truly glad you were able to get out of jury duty. They should've let you off the hook from the get go, what with your pregnant wife situation and all.

My dad was called to jury duty six months before he passed on, and he was able to get out of it by just sending in a doctor's notice that he was quite ill, so he wouldn't be able to serve. It worked.

I've never YET been called to jury duty, but hopefully if that day ever comes I'll know how to get out of it. (Unless I can actually handle it, that is.)

Pancakes For Breakfast! (Dee the Lurker), Saturday, 22 November 2003 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)

eight years pass...

I didn't show up for jury duty. But I incurred an injury and had to be hospitalized for (minor) surgery! Will I be forgiven?

โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Dannon's Yogurt Dumplings and Pam Poo (Mount Cleaners), Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:57 (thirteen years ago)


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