My HiFi Just Broke

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So basically the only pleasure in my life is listening to music. My built-to-last-a-lifetime Naim Audio NAP 250 power amp (current retail price $4200) just broke. Per the manufacturer's suggestion I always leave it on, but there must have been some noise in the power lines last night because I heard some buzzing through the speakers so I turned it off. I just turned in back on, and the power switch busted (in the off position, natch). The quality of parts used in the stuff is first-rate; how could this happen? Anyway, I'm now going to look forward to being without music for WEEKS while I have to send the amp back to the US distributer in Chicago, and pay for shipping and repair charges (I'm totally broke). I guess the possibility exists that the SF Naim retailer (I bought it on the east coast) could replace the power switch there, but from the looks of the place I doubt it. Did I mention the only thing in life that brings me any joy is listening to music?

Fuck.

Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 03:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate these kind of self-pitying threads, but I'm pretty filled with self-pity these days.

Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 03:43 (twenty-one years ago)

And at least I have my iPod, but fat lot of good it does me since the vast majority of my collection is on LP anyway.

Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 03:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh Sean, that is wretched.

(btw, my "music system" currently consists of my powerbook and $10 Walgreens speakers)

But still, that does not sound good.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 03:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I was just about to listen to Emotional Rescue. I really wanted to hear some disco-rock. I actually think I'm about to cry.

Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 03:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Buy a cheapo thrift-store one as a temporary replacement.

Sarah Pedal (call mr. lee), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 03:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Won't work. All the Naim connectors and cables are non-standard and will only work with other Naim gear.

Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 03:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Get a cheap ghetto blaster for the interim. The sound quality will obviously be ubershit compared to what you had but it's better than nothing. And what about your computer? You could play the CDs on there as well. It's just not as good quality, but like I said that is very much more positive than nothing while you are waiting to have it fixed.

I'm really sorry, btw.

Allyzay, Wednesday, 19 November 2003 03:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I was just about to listen to Emotional Rescue. I really wanted to hear some disco-rock. I actually think I'm about to cry.

Aaaaah! Ummm, you can come around here and listen to it. I can cue up Miss You, too.

Or The Rapture (again)??

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 03:58 (twenty-one years ago)

it serves you right for spending so much money on a hifi when there are children starving in africa.

jed (jed_e_3), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 03:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Sean, re-reading your original post - do you really have to go to all that trouble to fix a power switch? Is there no other way?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 04:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Won't work. All the Naim connectors and cables are non-standard and will only work with other Naim gear.

Can you not get cheapo thrift store speakers, too? My entire setup (hulking Zenith with 8-track and GE speakers) cost $15.

Or try borrowing a spare system from a sympathetic friend, if you have any.

Sarah Pedal (call mr. lee), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 04:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Sympathetic friends who have a spare, that is.

Sarah Pedal (call mr. lee), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 04:11 (twenty-one years ago)

It's not speakers I need; it's only the power amp that has the problem. I suppose I could get Naim US to FedEx me a new power switch and hope the local retailer can install it (I'm assuming it's just the switch that's broken, but it does seem to be). Given the price point of the amp, I wouldn't want to trust anyone unauthorized to work on it though, even with something as simple as the power switch.

Btw, I only mentioned the price of the amp as a reference point to how well-built it's supposed to be. I don't need to hear opinions about how it's a waste of money, or whatever.

Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 04:24 (twenty-one years ago)

try the local outlet before you ship it.

A Girl Named Sam (thatgirl), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 04:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd second Ally's recommendation. Here's an idea: buy a lil stereo and ask for a gift receipt. Since you're "buying it as a gift", you can ask in-depth about the return policy w/o arousing any suspicion. Wait til after Xmas and return it. You may still have to pay a restocking fee.

(HiFi??? I thought my dad was the last person who still used that term)

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 06:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I probably should have said "my power amp just broke" as that's the only component I'm having trouble with. HiFi sounds nicer though. Yeah tonight I've been listening to stuff on my PowerBook, thank god I still have that. But like I said only a fraction of my collection is CD. Anyway, thanks to all well-wishers.

Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 07:20 (twenty-one years ago)

just bust out the soldering iron and hardwire that baby ONNNNNNN

ron (ron), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 07:58 (twenty-one years ago)

It's just a rocker switch on the rear panel with Naim amps, isn't it? Shouldn't be too hard to replace at all.

I feel your pain though - I also follow the slightly bonkers and ecologically-unfriendly audiophile habit of leaving my power amps on and on the very odd occasion I do cycle the power on them, I seem to have a 50% chance of blowing a time-lag fuse. Of course, I never seem to have a spare. At least with monoblocs, I still have one channel...

It shouldn't be too difficult to find DIN-phono adaptor plugs from whatever the US equivalent is of Maplin, if you wish to temporarily rig up something non-Naim with yr CD player/pre-amp. Now might be the time to buy that Naim Headline headphone amp...

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 12:08 (twenty-one years ago)

The trouble with owning expensive consumer items is that the pleasure you get from them has to be balanced against the
worry and pain of losing them/having them stolen/breaking.

Bob Six (bobbysix), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Update: brought the amp into the dealer. Upon openining it they found the thing that connects the button on the front panel to the actual switch inside the unit had broken. The good news is that they simply activated that inside switch, now leaving the amp permanently turned on rather than off. Since I always left it on anyway, this poses no problem. I am now back in action! Hooray!

Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Yay!!!!

http://www.thesimsurfer.com/Bowie.jpg

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 22:10 (twenty-one years ago)

is leaving your stereo on really wasting all that much power? the significant juice would be used to move the speaker cones, i'd think. if it's sitting idle, isn't it just quite modestly keeping itself warm, and lighting an led or two (mine are NAD so the power amp and the preamp have each one small led, no display or nothin etc)

??

ron (ron), Thursday, 20 November 2003 02:37 (twenty-one years ago)

what's supposed to be the advantage of that?

s1utsky (slutsky), Thursday, 20 November 2003 02:38 (twenty-one years ago)

well the idea as it was explaine to me (by admittedly psycho audiophile types) is that every time you turn it on/off, power surges get shot through the device, which is not good for it's lifespan. also they were saying that the circuitry is designed to operate warm, not be in cycles of cold/warm/cold/warm. or something. ;-)

ron (ron), Thursday, 20 November 2003 02:42 (twenty-one years ago)

kind of like how cold starting you car engine is the worst part

ron (ron), Thursday, 20 November 2003 02:43 (twenty-one years ago)

but please nobody advocate leaving cars running ok

ron (ron), Thursday, 20 November 2003 02:44 (twenty-one years ago)

the exception being devices with running motors - like some tape decks, etc, in which case the wear on the constantly moving parts would trump the other factors

ron (ron), Thursday, 20 November 2003 02:45 (twenty-one years ago)

is leaving your stereo on really wasting all that much power?

Yes, if the power amp happens to be a Class A or AB design (neither Sean's Naim or my Audiolabs are, thankfully) - the circuit is permanently biased, so idle power consumption from some huge solid-state Class A like a Bryston or a Krell could be over 200W (much less for a tube amp). Still, good if you've no heating in that room.

But electricity bills are probably not something you worry about if you're in the market for $10k kilowatt amps.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 20 November 2003 10:36 (twenty-one years ago)

three years pass...

Oh no! The stylus cantilever on my Ortofon MC25FL got bent! Oh well, it had a good innings - 10 years old next month.

So, can anyone recommend a decent cartridge (MC preferred) for £50-70 (I can't justify the £230+ trade-in for a new MC25FL)? I got in touch with NVA about rejigging my Phono 1 pre-amp to work with a higher-output cart (MC25FL is 350-500uV and that's LOUD through my current box - too loud to record to MD or PC without in-line attentuation - so some 2-3mV cart would blow it up) and it would only cost £20 plus P&P both ways. Changing it to MM might cost more, I dunno.

Turntable is a Michell Gyro SE with Rega RB300 tonearm (Cardas/vdH rewire).

(I'd post this on an audio forum but I hate those places).

Michael Jones, Sunday, 23 September 2007 13:28 (eighteen years ago)

nine years pass...

Any Amp suggestions?

For with a Cambridge Audio Azur 351c CD player, Yamaha KX-390 Cassette Deck and B&W speakers.

djh, Monday, 12 December 2016 20:56 (eight years ago)

Pondering this: http://www.whathifi.com/onkyo/9010/review

djh, Monday, 12 December 2016 20:56 (eight years ago)

i have an entry level cambridge amp for about 8 years and it's great and looks cool

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 December 2016 20:59 (eight years ago)

The circa £80 one?

djh, Monday, 12 December 2016 21:03 (eight years ago)

one month passes...

Suggestions for a CD player for the kitchen/bedroom? (ie not the main listening stereo).

djh, Saturday, 14 January 2017 19:06 (eight years ago)

I have an Onkyo C-7030 which is cheapish (around $160) and sounds wonderful.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 14 January 2017 19:24 (eight years ago)

I just replaced our old (and broken down) kitchen CD player with this Yamaha TSX-B235WH Desktop Audio with Bluetooth. It sounds fine and has a few nice features like Bluetooth and two USB ports. I could have gone with something cheaper that would probably sound as good, but this fit into the space on our kitchen counter, while most of the other choices did not.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 14 January 2017 21:41 (eight years ago)

I'd go for something like this with a pair of bookshelf speakers
http://www.whathifi.com/denon/d-m40dab/review

niels, Monday, 16 January 2017 08:44 (eight years ago)

^ I gave an earlier (2014) incarnation of that Denon bookshelf unit to our daughter. As the review states, it sounds good and could not be simpler to use. A bit pricey though and no wireless capability, which seems like the way the whole music world is trending.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Monday, 16 January 2017 17:49 (eight years ago)

We have a Teac receiver in the kitchen with built in CD:

http://www.teac-audio.eu/en/products/cr-h700-83957.html

Best feature is wifi that allows streaming internet radio, BBC3 Late Junction is my dinner cooking listening of choice. USB input on the front for phone/ipod.

by the light of the burning Citroën, Monday, 16 January 2017 18:04 (eight years ago)

I've got the Marantz equivalent of that Teac network CD receiver, running through Q-Acoustic monitors in the living room. One big selling point was its integral Spotify app, but whenever Spotify tweak their API, certain things stop working (like collaborative or Spotify's own playlists), so I mostly AirPlay to it now.

Michael Jones, Monday, 16 January 2017 18:18 (eight years ago)


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