david aaronovitch's wounded foot

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Someone has described it as "political comfort food", where you get served up your own opinions and prejudices in a way that makes you feel better about yourself.

says our man (of michael moore) today. in the guardian. bad luck with the gun dave! you'll be back on your feet in no time.

enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 11:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I remember when he was a quite good television critic. Then he started appearing on TV himself and it all started to go very wrong.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 11:16 (twenty-one years ago)

not to be lookist, but he's not designed for tv. the byline pix are enough thanxx.

enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 11:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I never thought I'd say this, but David Aaronovitch is OTM. Completely.

Surely Aaronovitch anyway has been making a career recently out of doing the opposite of providing political comfort food - deliberately rubbing yer average Grauniad reader up the wrong way (his pro-Iraq war and welcome Bush stuff in particular). The problem is that it seems like such a pose, and he does so in such an unsufferably pompous and smug manner.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 11:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I still reckon that article about Michael Moore was well aimed, albeit not one of Aaronovitch's most coherent. Moore has been boring for quite a while now.

Daniel (dancity), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 11:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Do you think it's his looks that make him seem pompous and smug?

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 11:22 (twenty-one years ago)

don't get me wrong, i don't like michael moore either. but i do find DA playing to numerous galleries -- don't forget the observer is pro-war. his grasp of politics is one of the narrowest this side of toynbee.

N -- yes, it's his looks, but also his manner of speaking, as if there's an obvious liberal consensus that only a madman (ie ppl who aren't DA) would go against.

enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 11:26 (twenty-one years ago)

But he has made a point of going against the liberal consensus on invading Iraq.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 11:31 (twenty-one years ago)

He's also guilty of making wide and sweeping generalisations about what said consensus actually IS.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 11:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Toynbee and Aaronovitch are just creepy Millbank apparatchiks. See Toynbee's don't-be-beastly-to-Margaret-Hodge thing in Monday's Grauniad? Wonder how much Hodge paid her to write that. If Huntley and Carr had been Labour MPs she would have stuck up for them as well ("come on, only two children out of a total population of five million, what's your problem with that?").

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 19 November 2003 11:32 (twenty-one years ago)

He's just Andrew Neil in a fat suit.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 11:32 (twenty-one years ago)

(xpost)

Allegedly, of course.

mustn't forget the libel laws, Wednesday, 19 November 2003 11:33 (twenty-one years ago)

(reply to Ed):

plus an extremely sad at any age, but especially at his age, goatee.

To paraphrase Alan Bennett on Larkin, I foolishly assume that anyone who makes a series about his world tour of sex shops for Channel 5 has forfeited any right to comment on the political and social morals of this or indeed any country.

If he wants to turn into another Melanie Phillips, he's welcome to do so. Just go away and do it in the Mail, please, so that we don't have to read it.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 19 November 2003 11:35 (twenty-one years ago)

But he has made a point of going against the liberal consensus on invading Iraq.

Matt DC OTM -- i dunno what the consensus is, but the observer is THE liberal UK paper, historically.

enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 11:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I make the comparison as both Neil and Aaronovitch both seem to have clout beyond what seems reasonable given their skills as commentators/presenters.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 11:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Enrique - the liberal consensus (ok, 'vast majority opinion') is against the US-UK government's policy on Iraq. I don't see how you can argue with that. That the editor of the Observer chose to support the war doesn't change that.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 11:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Enrique - the liberal consensus (ok, 'vast majority opinion') is against the US-UK government's policy on Iraq. I don't see how you can argue with that. That the editor of the Observer chose to support the war doesn't change that.

this is true, i suppose -- not that the obs sales have dropped. i suppsoe i meant 'liberal' the way peter hitchens means it ;)

enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 11:48 (twenty-one years ago)

You are assuming that people buy the sunday papers for any other reason that to line their cat litter boxes.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 11:50 (twenty-one years ago)

It was one of the reasons I switched to the Independent on Sunday.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 11:52 (twenty-one years ago)

But yes, Ed is basically OTM. Though the monthly Observer magazines actually make terrible litter tray lining.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 11:53 (twenty-one years ago)

You are assuming that people buy the sunday papers for any other reason that to line their cat litter boxes.

my cat is currently using an IoS from October 2001.

but we all love victoria coren tho!! and barbara ellen!

enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 11:54 (twenty-one years ago)

By this logic sunday times readers have huge cats with diarrhea.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 11:54 (twenty-one years ago)

your perspective only, enrique. buggins' turn and failed music journalist respectively.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 19 November 2003 11:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Enrique was being sarcastic...

Incidentally, I was quite happy to see Toynbee's Hodge piece - calling out media witch hunts is always admirable, even if it is a minister being hunted. (Okay, point undermined mildly by the fact this is Polly Toynbee we're talking about here, but hey).

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 12:04 (twenty-one years ago)

enrique couldn't have been more sarky, believe.

enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 12:07 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, I'd figured DA's recent material has been aimed purely at winding up as many of his readers as possible, but obv. they will just skip straight over his column instead. Mind you, people seem to keep reading Julie Burchill and being surprised that they disagree with her -- perhaps because she's funnier and more often right than DA.

alext (alext), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 13:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think there's much of a 'perhaps' about it.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 13:38 (twenty-one years ago)

WARNING -- NOT FOR LEFT-LEANING UK POSTERS WITH HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,1092358,00.html

AAARGGGHHHHHH

okay, for once i have actual knowledge, sorta, to bring. i used to work in the nhs, in a 'workforce development confederation'. these units were set up to spend the second term dough. last night on channel 4 news there was an investigation into where this money is going, focussing on the mental health sector in buckinghamshire, which was covered by my unit.

part of what was worrying about the report was the seeming impossibility of getting a straight answer from those responsible to the question: where has all the money gone? because it sure as shit doesn't reach anyone on the front line.

the reason there is no answer is that the health service managers operate exactly like new labour insiders (they have social links to them anyway) -- any tiny little report we make has to be given a 'narrative' and i've blanked out the number of lies i was made to tell. the figures i had to report, which in some form made it into press releases, were bollocks -- the nhs is so complex that measurement is an extremely difficult process. the contempt of the nhs bureaucracy for the front-line staff was breathtaking.

and i don't want to get emotional but this callousness will affect your loved ones.

so david aaronovitch really can swing from the nearest lamppost as far as i'm concerned.

enrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 09:42 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
big dave has given up his G2 column. i dunno if he's left the grauniad gruppe altogether. here's betting he's 'done a melanie philips' and signed up with dacre or desmond, the cunt.

here's a line from his sign-off column:

"The Hornsey and Cambridge effects, where Liberal Democrats overturned hefty Labour majorities? With the honourable exception of immigration, a protest vote for the Lib Dems was a vote to say one was on the left while paying nothing for the privilege."

it's early morning, so i'm still working this one out, but i guess the idea is that while my mother (cambridge) and i (hornsey) have never 'done anything' to prove our leftness, the davester has... written numerous articles defending tony blair. no, it can't be that... we haven't paid labour party membership? that would be absurd:oh, i know, we haven't paid tuition fees/loan repayments after taking a 'graduate job' at £6ph? no, we've certainly done that.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 07:23 (twenty years ago)

Maybe he's referring to the tax cuts the Lib Dems were offering to the average household and arguing that you should actually be paying more if you're a true lefty. Bit cryptic though innit?

NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 07:34 (twenty years ago)

a bit general too. i don't know that the lib dems *did* offer tax cuts, really. even if they did, offering them to 'average households' is hardly right-wing, really.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 08:52 (twenty years ago)

Last summer I was sitting outside a cafe talking to a friend when a young black woman, walking by, stopped and asked me whether I wasn't David Aaronovitch, "the evil writer".

Dem crazy negroes!

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 09:03 (twenty years ago)

Aaronovitch is moving to the Times.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 09:04 (twenty years ago)

Aaronvitch is moving with the times

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 09:05 (twenty years ago)

It pays us all to move to the times.

NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 09:05 (twenty years ago)

Ah knickers, you filched my gag.

NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 09:09 (twenty years ago)

A vacuous farmer of cock, yesterday:

http://www.atelier-rc.com/Atelier.RC/b-dayCalendar/10.11-JmsBarry-Philoctetes.jpg

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 10:01 (twenty years ago)


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