Biggest shock (and the cause of this thread) was seeing Dave Stelfox's World of Stelfox appear in the Guardian list of bloggers, because I'd not been particularly struck by anything he wrote on ILE(er, no offense) and in fact mostly rememebered him from MSN to close its chatrooms . But his music blog is completely brilliant! It seems (on skimming) to be more introspective, I guess.
Least difference (but still a surprise) is that ILX Starry = Brane Starry = real life Starry.
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 14:48 (twenty-two years ago)
I blame the fact I'm a Gemini.
― Sarah (starry), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)
I'm just going to start talking about gardening instead...
― Citizen Kate (kate), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 14:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 14:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― Citizen Kate (kate), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 14:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 14:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― Citizen Kate (kate), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 14:58 (twenty-two years ago)
and, with all due respect, it is ill behoven for someone who starts a numerous threads on subjects such as horny historians, mayor crunky, etc., to complain about self-congratulatory circle jerks or a limited number of people celebrating each other.
― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 19 November 2003 14:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― Citizen Kate (kate), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 15:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 15:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 15:02 (twenty-two years ago)
I'd agree with that statement. I find it quite easy to ignore the blogosphear, but The Guardian and self congratulation go together like bullets and guns.
Come on Kate ignore the b-word and it's an interesting question!
How is that much different from the "how different are you IRL to on ILX" questions lately?
― Citizen Kate (kate), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 15:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 15:06 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 15:06 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 15:07 (twenty-two years ago)
my RFN tone is a bit more "in stone" than is convenient (cz it takes me an age to get to cranking new stuff out, and i have rooms full of marble blocks chipped down to blocked marbles)
i find it much easier to be flighty and instant within the Freaky Trigan empire
― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 15:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 19 November 2003 15:09 (twenty-two years ago)
I have/had an internet friend (one who I'd met several times IRL and considered myself very close to her) who I met through a mailing list, and who was active on several mailing lists I was on, and we also exchanged frequent emails.
She started getting very into the Blog thing, I just kind of ignored her. Then she started talking about how her Blog was causing friction in her relationship - her boyfriend had read something which upset him on her blog, which she "accidentally" left open on the computer they shared. Curiosity got the better of me, and I searched out and read the last few entries in her blog. Not only was there stuff about her boyfriend (I can understand why he would have been upset by it, plus she was talking about other lovers (n.b. they were in an "open" relationship)) but there was also stuff in there about *me*.
I felt hurt and betrayed, and yes, our relationship suffered because of it. If you don't have the guts to say something to someone outright in email, you shouldn't be putting it out on the web for them to discover. If you want to keep a diary, keep it private.
Anyway, that has very little to do with the sort of blogging discussed here, but it's a contributing factor in my distrust of blogging.
Just as you would be offended by people having a go at the Lollies.
Well, perhaps I have a certain sense of "well, I had to put up with it - AND FROM YOU AT POINTS, I MIGHT POINT OUT - so you can just shut up and read the criticism for a change."
― Citizen Kate (kate), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 15:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 15:12 (twenty-two years ago)
i agree that that's the groanydad's agenda -- but i'm not giving derrida praise for using the word 'supplement' just yet! ie, you'll find the tv listings in the colour 'supplement', as fredric jameson calls it...
― enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 15:15 (twenty-two years ago)
But no Kate, you're not going to play that game with me. Just because someone pissed you off ages back with their blog doesn't give you the right to sneer at other bloggers or shit on their parade, as small as it might be.
I posted the thread because I thought it was a nice and pleasant gesture from someone about whom I had been less than complimentary about on my blog. And I have had a very nice email back from Rob as well.
I'm sorry things evidently aren't going well for you, but I can't do anything about that. ILx is not the solution to any of your problems. If you want to bang your head against the wall you constructed, then go ahead and do it. A number of us here would just prefer it if you went and did it somewhere else. Or even better, if you want to get in the Guardian or get anywhere then fucking get up off your arse, stop feeling sorry for yourself and DO something.
― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 19 November 2003 15:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 15:17 (twenty-two years ago)
derrida was on point with that.
― enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 15:21 (twenty-two years ago)
You have no freaking idea, so get off your sanctimonious high horse! And oh my god, you managed to get through an entire post without playing the sympathy card. Congratulations for a freaking change.
Bloggers who talk about nothing else except their freaking blog are like any other mono-maniacs - FREAKING B.O.R.I.N.G.! There are plenty of other bloggers around this place who don't feel the need to define their entire life and personality through a fucking blog.
I am stopping this post now because I am about to descend into a personal attack and I don't want to do that.
― Citizen Kate (kate), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 15:26 (twenty-two years ago)
OK, to answer Tom's take on Andrew's question...
Oi!
Which is funny because you're definitely someone who comes to mind as regards being able to show in ILX context that you have knowledge in depth.
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 15:32 (twenty-two years ago)
But enough of this. Kate and I have, as long-term posters know, had a problematic relationship on this board, and for a time this year it looked as though it was turning into something approaching Actual Friendship in the Real World. But no more. Fuck this. Things are going brilliantly for me at the moment and I'm not going to let some spineless, neurotic, egotistical fuck-up destroy that with their inadequacies.
And a word of warning to anyone else wanting to be "friends" with Kate: don't bother. As soon as she finds an excuse, however lame, she'll turn on you.
― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 19 November 2003 15:33 (twenty-two years ago)
I certainly write differently all over the shop. Something like the size of an input window even will change the way I arrange paragraphs, and fonts will even affect my use of capital letters! But not that much you'd be pleased to know. Certainly I'm not very happy with how I write on the blogs, perhaps because I write so differently to everyone else (except maybe Snr Fluoro) I get very self-conscious about Real Actual Content.
― Sarah (starry), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 15:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 15:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― Patrick Kinghorn, Wednesday, 19 November 2003 15:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 19 November 2003 15:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 15:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 15:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 15:52 (twenty-two years ago)
(Not having a go at Enrique!) Derrida really can't win can he? Either he uses esoteric jargon and stupid neologisms or he uses ordinary words and so doesn't get any credit. The trouble with this is that after seeing Derrida use the word supplement (ie implies something lacking in whatever requires a supplement, as much as it tells us the supplement isn't complete in itself) it's very hard to see the word itself in any other light afterwards. The same thing happens with other thinkers -- after reading Derrida's take on people, it's quite common for people to go 'but he's just saying what X was saying all along' when in fact Derrida's X looks subtly or importantly different from the way X looked before. So then loads of books attack Derrida for just ripping off (short list) Kierkegaard, Schelling, Hegel, Heidegger, Levinas, Blanchot, Plato, Augustine etc. And come on, he can't be ripping them ALL off -- unless something altogether strange is going on. (Which is not to say he isn't, and it isn't)... < / rant >
― alext (alext), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 19 November 2003 15:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 15:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 16:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 16:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 16:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 16:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 16:03 (twenty-two years ago)
damn skippy
― enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 16:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 16:04 (twenty-two years ago)
(Can anyone guess what I've been doing all afternoon...)
― alext (alext), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 16:15 (twenty-two years ago)
http://www.livejournal.com/users/lynskey/
Come see!
― Lynskey (Lynskey), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 16:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 16:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 16:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nathan W (Nathan Webb), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 16:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 16:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― Broheems (diamond), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 23:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― Broheems (diamond), Thursday, 20 November 2003 00:10 (twenty-two years ago)