Current Sports Presenters On The Telly: S/D C/D

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When The Premiership's presenting team depart the airwaves at the end of the season, will anyone actually miss them?

On the other hand, does week upon week of Mark Lawrenson and possibly Garth Crooks actually deserve celebrating?

"Big" Ron Mackintosh, the BBC's boxing anchorman - cult hero or just plain rubbish?

Why is it all female sports presenters on Channel 4 look exactly the same?

Now Is The Time: Night Of Combat - Kickboxing - why?

Skill gap between Rugby World Cup pundits and anchormen - how embarassing?

Etc.

Discuss.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 22 November 2003 16:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll happily lose the Premiership, even though it has certainly improved. Crooks is funny and Lawro okay, but I'll be very pleased to have Gary Lineker asking questions of Alan Hansen.

I don't honestly care that much about any other sport, but doesn't ITV's main rugby commentator, John Taylor, sound almost exactly like ex-R1 DJ Mike Read? (Sadly not like the ex-comedian and Eastenders star, which would be much funnier.)

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 22 November 2003 16:35 (twenty-two years ago)

You could be right Martin; at any rate something about his voice was nagging me today.
I'll miss Matt Smith - i praised him on the Rugby thread; he's witty, cheeky and a typical footie fan, not some strange Television creature like Des. Also Robbie Earle is pleasant company. The joke's slightly worn off with Ron Atkinson.
Of course Lineker and Hansen are the Dons. Crooks should go on tour with the RSC, everything he says is pronounced like a Grand Soliloquy. I think the BBC will raise their game and come back with something fresh for MOTD.
I also like Johnathan Pearce as a good bargain basement option on Five. A better presenter than he is a commentator.

Pete S, Saturday, 22 November 2003 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I confess that I kind of like Garth Crooks' long slow careful questions at times. I do agree about Matt Smith and Robboe Earle (an undervalued player too, I always thought), but I still like Big Ron too really.

As long as the BBC still give us the same old theme tune. It was always a big thrill for me, the first time every season I heard it, and having missed it for years will increase that. I wouldn't be surprised if a tear comes to my eyes...

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 23 November 2003 00:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Earle does seem like a lovely bloke, plus which he was the undisputed king of the 12-yard bulllet-header for a while. But Smith - that thing he always does where he tilts his head onto his shoulder, Then goes "But, seriously, Leeds? In trouble? Aren't they? Clive?" Plus he seems far too much in awe of Andy Townsend, who is rubbish.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 23 November 2003 13:18 (twenty-two years ago)

BBC's footie team are top class. A million times better than anything that ITV have come up with. Even when they get Schmeichel in, he's ace. Townsend can eat my fuk.

Johnney B (Johnney B), Sunday, 23 November 2003 13:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the BBC will raise their game and come back with something fresh for MOTD

TACTICS TRUCK!!!

Think it's probably worth noting that the Beeb's rotating support cast of footy pundits do top ITV's - Schmeichel and Wright, for instance, are far superior to McCoist and Taylor. That said, due to them not having regular weekly football anymore, they can come a cropper every now and then - thinking particularly of Danny Mills' solitary MOTD appearance here.

Also, they seem to have got a lot of new presenters/roving reporters in lately, and the one they have for football - think he's called Phil Jones, or something like that - is dire, proper standard-issue BBC News automaton-in-fleece. I remember he used to be on CNN. He was shit there too.

It might even be the one area ITV one-ups the BBC - they've got Ned "New Gary Imlach" Boulting, who seems like quite an entertaining sort.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 23 November 2003 13:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Crooks is the most astute, I think. Lawro is a pleasant character.

Crooks' special reports have an amusing familiarity to them. Camera focuses on a ball which is then kicked and he catches it in the middle of a butchers shop or something and says "A butchers? Not the place where most FA Cup runs begin.". Cut to non league player who is a butcher.

Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 23 November 2003 13:41 (twenty-two years ago)

While the return of regular Saturday MOTD is obv something to bring joy to the world, - cf the great Lineker and Hansen vs the dreaded Townsend and McCoist - there is still an element of mundanity that Stubbs and Lawro bring that even the worst of ITV can't quite match.

Not to mention the insufferable 'old boy network' smugness you always sense from the Beeb's punditry teams, whether it be the 80s Scouseland act of Lawro, Hansen and Reid or the insomnia cure ramblings of the Booze Culture Dream Team of Pallister, Robbo and (again) Reidy.

darren (darren), Sunday, 23 November 2003 15:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Jeff Stelling owns this thread

chris (chris), Monday, 24 November 2003 09:23 (twenty-two years ago)

otm

stevem (blueski), Monday, 24 November 2003 11:09 (twenty-two years ago)

i esp. love the way he jokingly fails to diguise his bias towards his beloved Hartlepool but never takes it too far, and his regular gag "they'll be dancing in the streets of Total Network Solutions tonight" tho perhaps he didn't conceive that one himself.

stevem (blueski), Monday, 24 November 2003 11:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I watched most of Soccer Saturday this weekend, and it was marvellous, pure footie entertainment from start to end.

chris (chris), Monday, 24 November 2003 11:13 (twenty-two years ago)

i have watched it most Saturdays (apart from during the Summer obv) for the last couple of seasons (Soccer AM is often too early for me sadly tho is great Saturday morning TV - don't the RAF captain and 'Ginger' remind you of Trevor & Simon btw? Soccerette is boring as fuck now tho) and it's good fun but without the masterful anchorage of Stelling it would be only half the show. there was a good article on Soccer Saturday/Stelling on offthetelly.co.uk a while back.

stevem (blueski), Monday, 24 November 2003 11:19 (twenty-two years ago)

ooh, I'll go look for that. He was interviewed by the Guradian the other week, I like the way that to prepare for the shows he goes to his nearest motorway service station and sits down with his laptop and a cup of nasty tea.

Ginger is the Zander of Soccer AM, it all revolves around him. He was fantastic this week. Paul Dalgleish was a guest this week, that was most interesting, he's completeely given up football and now runs an internet company.

chris (chris), Monday, 24 November 2003 11:22 (twenty-two years ago)

haha, how many good running gags are there on Soccer AM? i liked 'Boston Utd - the only American team in the football pyramid', the Geordie spoof of the Budweiser 'Whasssup' ads, the 'LOVEJOY!' penalty miss of the week, Showboat...and they always tell you what tracks they play when they do the footage montages...and those tracks are invariably fecking ace.

"And they'll be dancing on the streets of Total Network Solutions tonight" may just be the best football joke ever tho

stevem (blueski), Monday, 24 November 2003 11:26 (twenty-two years ago)

and Feed The Iron Curtain - wtf?!

stevem (blueski), Monday, 24 November 2003 11:26 (twenty-two years ago)

it's now "we are the champions...... league"

current favourites:

referee Gallagher

The weekly "Moscow" joke

Tubes' question

Stuck on the moon cds is ace too, just for highlighting just how craop footballers' music taste is. (Spencer Prior's was a scary list of death metal!)

chris (chris), Monday, 24 November 2003 11:35 (twenty-two years ago)

9/10 Premiership hotshots pick 'White Ladder' no doubt

"IAN BEEALE! RATATOUILLE!"

"did yow take the sloaw traain?"

stevem (blueski), Monday, 24 November 2003 11:37 (twenty-two years ago)

elitists

Tim (Tim), Monday, 24 November 2003 11:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Bah. I hate Soccer AM. there. Save Chip was fucking tedious. Lovejoy is a cockfarmer.

I hate fun etc.

Lawro. jesus christ, do me a favour. Garth Crooks is too annoying. Drury was at his wanky worst this weekend, and mcCoist showed he knows cock all with his stuff on Bergkampf's flying fears; Big Ron stepped in to provide the knowledge required. Lynam is overrated. Lineker is too knowing. I like Stubbsy, as he's an enthusiastic puppy dog.

The only solution is to make me the presenter of such programmes.

Dave B (daveb), Monday, 24 November 2003 11:40 (twenty-two years ago)

and now Tim does a good impression of the producer when he was doing the "pieces of cake, pretty molly" lower division fan

to be fair to Soccer Am, they do give a fair amount of coverage to lower league footie, and the golden slip-on idea is a winner. (a golden slip-on is awarded to the player across all four English leagues who has the best goals per game average - I think last year David Connolly won it)

Save Chip was funny for a while

chris (chris), Monday, 24 November 2003 11:43 (twenty-two years ago)

i agree Lovejoy has let his ego overtake him and the show sort of suffers from that. he is teetering on the very brink of likeability for me. as i said the Soccerette feature is so stagnant and mind-numbingly repetetive.

i like Crooksy and even Lawro. what annoyed me about football coverage this weekend was how everyone kept mentioning the rugby, as if desperate to latch on to someone else's glory - you made your choice, give it a rest!

stevem (blueski), Monday, 24 November 2003 12:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Whither the mention of GABBY! Bunch of sexualists.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 24 November 2003 12:23 (twenty-two years ago)

i thought she did the weather!

stevem (blueski), Monday, 24 November 2003 12:31 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, but problem with golden slip-on is that grazioli is likely to outscore the lot of them this season...

gabby was a bit rubbish on the rugby, but then she was kind of only there because of her hubby, whereas she's top notch on the footy.

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Monday, 24 November 2003 12:32 (twenty-two years ago)

She's been relegated to roving reporter on the rugby, in favour of the mad skillz of Angus Scott. Which is odd, cos she's probably the best anchor type ITV have...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 24 November 2003 12:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I like a guy called Quique Guasch because he's a got a big moustache and makes the players laugh when he interviews them. I've looked for a picture, but no luck.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 24 November 2003 12:36 (twenty-two years ago)

is it wrong to fancy the pants off Claire Tomlinson?

stevem (blueski), Monday, 24 November 2003 12:36 (twenty-two years ago)

i like the Spanish guy who is the SOLE pundit for Sky's Spanish football coverage aka The Real Madrid Show

stevem (blueski), Monday, 24 November 2003 12:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Who is Claire Tomlinson? Is she Sky?

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 24 November 2003 12:37 (twenty-two years ago)

yeh she looks like Keira Knightley's slightly chubbier sister and does the pitch reports and post-match interviews in the player's tunnel

stevem (blueski), Monday, 24 November 2003 12:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Ah. Right.

I wouldn't know her, then.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 24 November 2003 12:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Does more than pitch reports. Fnar.

Sportbitch, Monday, 24 November 2003 12:43 (twenty-two years ago)

oh that's right she also reveals the team selections and any late injuries

stevem (blueski), Monday, 24 November 2003 12:44 (twenty-two years ago)

of course, how could I forget my football god that is Guilleme Balague?

genius of a bloke "real Madrid is a beeeg cloob" he obviously went to Manchester uni or summat as the northern accent dropping in to his Spanglish is great.

Gerry Armstrong is great too - amazing depth of knowledge

chris (chris), Monday, 24 November 2003 12:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Tomlinson . .. . hubba hubba.

As to the point a bit up there, I LIKE the old boys network of the BBC coverage. When you have all scousers on the go, its like listening to your dad and his mates chat when you were little - you KINDA get the jokes and the gags, but not really, and ti just adds to the wiseness of what they say.

Johnney B (Johnney B), Monday, 24 November 2003 13:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Gary Linekar's finest moment.

It was during that competition in Brazil when Man Utd skipped the FA Cup to play. Raja Casablanca had a corner, it fell to someone outside the box, his shot hit the bar and rebounded down goalside of the line, but the referee didn't give a goal amid total disbeliefe from the players. Cut to Lineker in the studio,, "Poor old Casablance. Of all the bars in all the world..."

Mikey G (Mikey G), Monday, 24 November 2003 14:12 (twenty-two years ago)

My favourite football joke was an inadvertent one by a stupid announcer, which went something like (sorry for any spelling errors) "...Borussia Dortmund 2, Borussia Munchengladbach 1, so that's a victory for Dortmund in the Borussia derby."

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 24 November 2003 21:08 (twenty-two years ago)


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