Petridish vs Carlin FITE!!
anyway, nu-totp sounds like rockist tosh -- it's going out live and there'll be loads of presumably terrible punditry, 'reports', etc. well, it's hardly perfect now, but this sounds rubbish to me.
― enrique (Enrique), Monday, 24 November 2003 16:10 (twenty-two years ago)
He needs to know that indecent songs are all the rage, daddio. Uh, yeah.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 November 2003 16:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sarah (starry), Monday, 24 November 2003 16:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 24 November 2003 16:13 (twenty-two years ago)
Anyways, as I've said before: if they want to turn Top of the Pops' audience figures around they need to look at how BBC2 relaunched Top Gear to show how you do a magazine show nowadays.
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 24 November 2003 16:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pete (Pete), Monday, 24 November 2003 16:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 24 November 2003 16:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 24 November 2003 16:17 (twenty-two years ago)
'darkly minimal 'slow''.
oh for fuck's sake!
― enrique (Enrique), Monday, 24 November 2003 16:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ed (dali), Monday, 24 November 2003 16:19 (twenty-two years ago)
I presume that the new-look TOTP will not feature DLT coming onstage with a broom and comedy cloth cap to sweep up while the Darkness are on. And as I've said millions of times before, if they're going to keep scheduling it against Corrie there is NO POINT IN UPDATING IT BECAUSE NO ONE WILL BE WATCHING!!!! More anonymous "presenters" with their "cool" voices trailing off when they finally get around to announcing the artist. Plus onscreen karaoke lyrics. Can't they just get Timmy Mallett to present and have done with it?
― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 24 November 2003 16:19 (twenty-two years ago)
yes but ONLY if now working as a preview to the following Sunday's chart rather than the previous Sunday's
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 24 November 2003 16:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 24 November 2003 16:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sad Dr Who Fan (Tico Tico), Monday, 24 November 2003 16:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 24 November 2003 16:22 (twenty-two years ago)
that's the thing - as i stated in my recent FT article it seemed more that in the past TOTP was genuine universal viewing with something for everyone (in the case of your parents or grandparents this often meant the something was merely something to moan about) so i'm not convinced this demographing is necessary, even today
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 24 November 2003 16:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alan (Alan), Monday, 24 November 2003 16:24 (twenty-two years ago)
i used to think it was stupid to put it on friday, when i used to go out fridays (or, more accurately, go out before 8 o'clock on fridays), but now i can see the logic. i don't watch corrie anyway. i just want a show that plays a lot of pop songs that my friends and i can judge in a slightly better spoken version of beavis and butthead. no punditry, sarky comments or reports from the studio, thanking you.
― enrique (Enrique), Monday, 24 November 2003 16:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― Pete (Pete), Monday, 24 November 2003 16:24 (twenty-two years ago)
Idiot Pete.
― Sarah (starry), Monday, 24 November 2003 16:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 24 November 2003 16:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― enrique (Enrique), Monday, 24 November 2003 16:29 (twenty-two years ago)
I'd be interested to see the recent viewing figures for these shows. Personally I'm sick of Cat Deeley and CD:UK and find Fearne Cotton's TOTP Saturday very refreshing. Fearne admittedly devalued herself by cavorting about idiotically with a saxophone alongside Shane Ritchie a few weeks ago but generally the show works very well.
― David (David), Monday, 24 November 2003 16:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 24 November 2003 16:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― enrique (Enrique), Monday, 24 November 2003 16:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 24 November 2003 16:39 (twenty-two years ago)
are you saying my mother's old etc etc
― enrique (Enrique), Monday, 24 November 2003 16:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― steve manning (blueski), Monday, 24 November 2003 16:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― enrique (Enrique), Monday, 24 November 2003 16:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― robin (robin), Monday, 24 November 2003 16:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― enrique (Enrique), Monday, 24 November 2003 16:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ed (dali), Monday, 24 November 2003 16:50 (twenty-two years ago)
Course, during the post-Ant and Dec years that wouldn't really have helped so much, but then it had become such a fixture that SM:TV probably got viewers solely off its success. The 'Saturday chart' certainly changed the game for pop programmes, shifting the focus off the Sunday chart a fair bit. Also, because of the longer slot, it meant there was more time to talk to the artists, so they got a greater affinity with the show itself. TOTP just offered you a performance, CD:UK gave you a little bit extra - banal as Petridis reckons they are, that little bit means a lot.
Also, his thing about 'pop stars have no personality' - FARMER OF COCK. The top ten this week is filled with artists that most people could find at least something interesting to say about (poss exceptions of Wee Kev and Westlife, true). All the records either have some kind of back-story to them (Girls Aloud, Pet Shop Boys, Alex Parks, Britney, to an extent Westlife), or are that interesting that they create their own kind of mythology, such that it doesn't matter about the artist cos the song itself is that damn good (Wee Kev, Outkast, Fatman Scoop, possibly Lemar). True, 11-20 presents a bit more of a problem, but even there you've got The Alesha Dixon Phenomenon, the amount of little quirks buried in the Blazin' Squad single, the continued tenacity of Superstar and Where Is The Love... though finding something to say about Enrique charting at #11 is hell on stilts, true.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 24 November 2003 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― enrique (Enrique), Monday, 24 November 2003 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)
mentalism! i quite like the sparkiness of this trio
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 24 November 2003 17:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 24 November 2003 17:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 24 November 2003 17:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 24 November 2003 17:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― enrique (Enrique), Monday, 24 November 2003 17:18 (twenty-two years ago)
Agreed that Fatman and Outkast have more personality than the other two, but the other two have more interesting circumstances/back stories, in the sort of "Rise & Fall Of..." mode - for instance, pre-this week, most people would've predicted a slow easing into retirement for Westlife after the relative chart failure of 'Hey, Whatever', but returning to the dull-as-ditchwater balladry has put them back on top again, thus meaning they could carry holding everyone down for years to come yet. It's not like they rely on keeping their looks.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 24 November 2003 17:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 24 November 2003 17:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 24 November 2003 17:25 (twenty-two years ago)
They're not mutually exclusive, of course - I suppose the Spice Girls were the most effective combination of the two.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 24 November 2003 17:26 (twenty-two years ago)
"So boys, last time you were here you said no more covers""Yes""But your new song is a Barry Manilow cover""Yes well er they told us to er er er""Har har"
― Sarah (starry), Monday, 24 November 2003 17:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 24 November 2003 17:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 24 November 2003 17:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 24 November 2003 18:55 (twenty-two years ago)
As for TOTP, Clarkson would be excellent as he'd obviously hate everything on it with the sole exception of the Darkness perhaps
― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 25 November 2003 11:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 29 November 2003 20:54 (twenty-two years ago)
That's marvellously provocative.
― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Saturday, 29 November 2003 22:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 29 November 2003 23:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 30 November 2003 11:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― zappi (joni), Sunday, 30 November 2003 12:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Sunday, 30 November 2003 12:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Sunday, 30 November 2003 13:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sarah (starry), Sunday, 30 November 2003 18:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 30 November 2003 18:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Sunday, 30 November 2003 18:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Sunday, 30 November 2003 18:12 (twenty-two years ago)
What odds they have Maiden on?
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 30 November 2003 18:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Sunday, 30 November 2003 18:23 (twenty-two years ago)
― jed (jed_e_3), Sunday, 30 November 2003 18:25 (twenty-two years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 30 November 2003 21:06 (twenty-two years ago)
also the new logo is a shameless rip off of the Obsessive Records logohttp://www.dotmusic.com/images/obsessive/obsessive.jpg
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 1 December 2003 13:20 (twenty-two years ago)
Nothing like it...
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 1 December 2003 13:43 (twenty-two years ago)
Swiggit, surely he couldn't have had an autocue as he kept looking down at what I assume were his "notes" every other two seconds! This just having one presenter lark is a load of bobbins anyway. They should have a SQUAD.
― Sarah (starry), Monday, 1 December 2003 13:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nu-Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 1 December 2003 13:45 (twenty-two years ago)
This is definitely erroneous, folks. There's nothing gay about Tim, except for his industry standard mildly camp let's-appeal-to-kids-and-grannies delivery. In fact, I'd almost go so far as to say he's ungay.
― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Monday, 1 December 2003 13:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 1 December 2003 13:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 1 December 2003 13:49 (twenty-two years ago)
does no-one else remember the music that replaced 'The Wizard' and how the new theme is just a scant update of it?
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 1 December 2003 13:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 1 December 2003 13:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 1 December 2003 13:52 (twenty-two years ago)
But isn't that an old thing? Surely we've have 'headphones' type images used in the TOTP logo before? Like, in the 1980s? So this is a step back, yes?
Shouldn't the logo of the TOTP of today be a stylised iPod?
― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Monday, 1 December 2003 13:54 (twenty-two years ago)
http://www.my-generation.org.uk/vert1.jpg
Though the designers of the Vertigo label logo probably got the idea from somewhere else. It's an age-old optical illusion thing surely.
The Kelly Osbourne/Gareth Gates double 'interview' should have been more awkward.
This was interesting to see Gates' control of his stutter start to slip (as it did during a stressful moment in the celebrity driving test programme he appeared in..he mostly has it under control now).
― David (David), Monday, 1 December 2003 13:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Monday, 1 December 2003 18:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 1 December 2003 18:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Monday, 1 December 2003 18:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Monday, 1 December 2003 18:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― zappi (joni), Monday, 1 December 2003 18:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 1 December 2003 18:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Monday, 1 December 2003 18:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 1 December 2003 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Monday, 1 December 2003 21:36 (twenty-two years ago)
Big BrovazStingOzzy & Kelly OsbourneVictoria Beckham (twice)Will Young
... and that's it.
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 1 December 2003 21:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Monday, 1 December 2003 21:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 1 December 2003 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)
TOTP over by X-mas?
― jel -- (jel), Monday, 1 December 2003 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 1 December 2003 21:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tom May (Tom May), Monday, 1 December 2003 23:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dada, Monday, 5 April 2004 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― terry lennox. (gareth), Sunday, 29 January 2006 19:49 (twenty years ago)
― terry lennox. (gareth), Sunday, 29 January 2006 19:56 (twenty years ago)
― Ed (dali), Sunday, 29 January 2006 22:03 (twenty years ago)
― JimD (JimD), Sunday, 29 January 2006 23:04 (twenty years ago)
― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Sunday, 29 January 2006 23:50 (twenty years ago)
BBC4 is broadcasting complete episodes of TOTP from 1976 for some reason. The one I saw was quite staggeringly awful: Sailor, Brotherhood of Man, a bunch of rubbishy singer-songwriter types whose names I've forgotten, and Pan's People dancing to Jungle Rock. All highly uncomfortable. The only thing of interest was Fox doing S-S-Single Bed. Oh, there was Diana Ross & Abba, but only on tape, and THREE Beatles singles in the chart rundown. Desparate times.
Surprised these haven't been discussed on ILM.
― bham, Monday, 18 April 2011 15:35 (fourteen years ago)
ILM is on itThe Rolling "Top of the Pops" BBC4 Revival thread.
― portrait of velleity (woof), Monday, 18 April 2011 15:38 (fourteen years ago)