Well, so much for the Canadian Right's Chances of Appearing "Mainstream"

CanWest News Service

OTTAWA - Citing a "well-orchestrated" conspiracy that began in the 1960s and led to recent successes
in the gay-rights movement, a Canadian Alliance MP says he would support any initiative to outlaw
homosexuality.

The conspiracy included the seduction and recruitment of young boys in playgrounds and locker rooms and
the deliberate infiltration of North America's judiciary, schools, religious community and entertainment
industry, said Larry Spencer, a U.S.-born former Baptist pastor and the Alliance's family issues critic.

The movement's progress in gaining public acceptance for homosexuality would have been slowed,
however, had Pierre Elliott Trudeau not legalized homosexuality in 1969, according to the Saskatchewan
MP.

"I do believe it was a mistake to have legalized it," Mr. Spencer said.

While he said no Canadian government would likely have the "courage" to reverse Mr. Trudeau's decision
to remove the state from the bedrooms of the nation, Mr. Spencer would support any bill that advocated
such a move.

"If somebody brought a bill in the House to do that I'd certainly vote for it. Yeah, I'd like to see that be the
case."

"It's not that I would want spies in everybody's bedroom or anybody following anybody. I just wish that there
was some way that society could stand up and say, 'this is not right.'"

But Mr. Spencer said any MP, and especially someone from his party, risks being labelled "a redneck or a
hate-monger or homophobic" if they even mention such views in Parliament.

Mr. Spencer, MP for Regina-Lumsden-Lake Centre, said the conspiracy began with a speech by a U.S. gay
rights activist in the '60s whose name he could not recall.

"His quote went something like this ... 'We will seduce your sons in the locker rooms, in the gymnasiums, in
the hallways, in the playgrounds, and on and on, in this land.' It was quite a long quote stating what was
going to happen to the young boys of North America."

Mr. Spencer said one of the major steps was to encourage followers to enter the ministry of various
churches and to infiltrate North America's schools and teaching colleges.

"The activists that organized in those days [encouraged] people of their persuasion to enter into
educational fields, and to do this with the feeling of a mission, you know, of going out there as pioneers in a
-- quote-- human rights area, and I think they were successful, as we've seen."

He said those who sympathize with homosexuals in today's judiciary, educational system, entertainment
industry and churches aren't directly linked to the people who launched the conspiracy.

"I would think that is so long ago that we're seeing the outworkings of it decades down the line. And to say
there's a conspiracy now is going to raise eyebrows, and [people will] say, 'well, I don't think so. It's just the
natural evolution.'

"But there are things ... that once you set in motion, it's like shoving a snowball off the edge of the barn
roof. Once you set it in motion, you don't have to keep pushing. It sort of keeps going. It's that slippery
slope that we talk about."

Mr. Trudeau, while justice minister, announced sweeping changes to the Criminal Code in 1967 that
included legalizing homosexual acts between consenting adults in private. The bill wasn't passed until 1969,
when Mr. Trudeau was prime minister. Before that, people convicted of buggery or bestiality could be
sentenced to a maximum 14 years in jail.

Mr. Spencer said he wouldn't want homosexuals to go to jail as a result of their "choice" to engage in
homosexual acts.

"I wouldn't even suggest that there would be a penalty. I just think it's so sad that we have to take an issue
like this and be asked to put the Good Housekeeping seal of approval on it without being allowed to tell the
truth and talk about facts."

He said one of those "facts" is that homosexuals, due to AIDS and other health problems, have a far lower
life expectancy than straight men.

"Let's just say if ... anybody that used Colgate toothpaste, their life expectancy was lowered by 10, 15
years. What do you think would happen to Colgate toothpaste? It would be outlawed. Well, we know that's
what happens to men living a gay lifestyle."

Mr. Spencer said some of his constituents fear the proposed Alliance-Progressive Conservative merger
could make it more difficult for the merged party to take strong positions on social conservative issues.

But he pointed out that most of the Tory caucus voted with the Alliance in opposing the Liberal
government's plan to legalize same-sex marriage.

Mr. Spencer said he would welcome gay Tory MP Scott Brison -- who supports the merger but has voiced
concern that the party could be perceived as socially intolerant -- as a caucus colleague. "He's a great guy
and he's got a lot of great ideas. If he can live with us we can live with him."

Mr. Spencer, 61, was born in Missouri and moved to Canada in 1974. He became a Canadian citizen in
1999, a year before he narrowly beat former New Democratic Party MP John Solomon.

Mr. Spencer said there will soon be strong pushes to legalize polygamy and pedophilia. "Polygamy is next
on the list. More than one [spouse] ... We'll see that within the next very, very few years. Pedophilia is being
pursued as we speak ... Some will say down to an eight-year-old, they think it's OK."

He also said people who have been practising homosexuals for most of their adult lives, like New
Democratic MP Svend Robinson, could transform themselves into heterosexuals.

"I believe he could. I believe he would struggle with it," Mr. Spencer said.

He pointed out that someone could hate long-distance running or weightlifting but then train themselves in
that area and learn to love it. "So the human body can be sensitized or desensitized. The mind or the
conscience that we have can be sharpened against right or wrong. It can be desensitized to think that
whatever is wrong that's around us is nothing but natural and we begin to accept that."

He said he believes homosexuality, rather than being part of someone's nature, is something that is
developed by young people who struggle with their identity in relation to a parent, such as an "overbearing
mother" or cold father.

(The Vancouver Sun)

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