BAD. SANTA.

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@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 27 November 2003 17:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

Well what? Make sense man!!

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 27 November 2003 17:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

God, sometimes* ILE is** nothing more than comedians trying out nonsense-words to see if they provoke laughter. Aren't there better ways of doing this?

*all the time

**or, just as likely, I'm missing some hilarious pop culture reference. In which case, go on, laugh at the spaz.

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 27 November 2003 17:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

Sorry Nordy, nothing to do with you, just in a bad mood.

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 27 November 2003 17:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

Um, it's a new movie. I want to see it. Directed by Terry Zwigoff, director of Crumb and Ghost World, and starring Billy Bob Thornton.

NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 27 November 2003 17:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

Baz the spaz.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 27 November 2003 17:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

It's the first film I've looked forward to seeing in AGES. But the preview makes it look quite bad -- and the screenwriters wrote Cats & Dogs.

But, in the Christmas spirit, my favourite line from Ghost World.

Rebecca: This is so bad it's almost good.
Enid: This is so bad it's gone past good and back to bad again.

Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Thursday, 27 November 2003 17:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

BERNIE MAC!

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 27 November 2003 17:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

Bad Santa! Creepy poster!

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 27 November 2003 17:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

Every review I've heard/read of it has been overwhelmingly positive.

NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 27 November 2003 17:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

Sorry Nordy, nothing to do with you, just in a bad mood.

Easy, Mark! Yes, it is an example of "the filmic arts", on general release in the US as of today. It looks quite bad, but some of the reviews has been surprising.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 27 November 2003 17:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

damn, santa.

possible m (mandinina), Thursday, 27 November 2003 17:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

I was a bad Santa once. I did a brilliant expose on the seemy underbelly of mall Santas.

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 27 November 2003 17:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

Actually it was a moving human interest story with myself as the STAR I was born to be!

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 27 November 2003 17:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

Well, at least now you know some of the things I hate about ILE when I've got my period.

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 27 November 2003 17:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

*runs away from thread*

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 27 November 2003 18:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hmmm, I will reserve judgement until I see a trailer.

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 27 November 2003 18:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

is that some kind of Billy Bob Thornton/White Trash joke, jel?

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 27 November 2003 18:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

will probably be better than "TimeLine", which was viewed today..

Jeremy the Kingfish (Kingfish), Friday, 28 November 2003 22:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

You're a bad Santa, you're a very bad Santa. Would you like a personality test?

http://www.ostrichink.com/oct2003/santa1.jpg

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 29 November 2003 00:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

You know what Thanta thpellth if you jumble the letterth up, don't you, kidth? That'th right!!

http://www.scientologyhandbook.org/img/pg203_1.jpg

bad jode (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 29 November 2003 00:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

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Ed (dali), Saturday, 29 November 2003 00:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

Amazing. Like a comedic version of Bad Lieutenant - as in, the plot of the movie is right there in the title, and seldom veers from said plot (or lack therof) - BillyBob is terrific (tho I must admit I have sat through each of his movies, including the abhorrent Pushing Tin - I'm a big fan) and the movie is definitely worth seeing. I'm already psyched for the DVD!

roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 29 November 2003 11:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

Best line in Ghostworld = "He'd better be careful he doens't get AIDS when he date-rapes her." (Said of football captain and prom queen, I think.)

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Saturday, 29 November 2003 11:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

I went to see it today, tanked up on coffee and with no expectations to speak of, laughed like an idiot for at least the first 45 minutes. Do I even need to say it's a one-joke movie? Billy Bob gives good cuss, Bernie Mac is still not as funny as I expect him to be - his best face (the surly yet dumbstruck one) is still good, but he doesn't deliver on it. John Ritter has a "nice" little turn. RIP. A really odd choice for local hero Terry Zwigoff, this film has the feel of an "inbetweener", but is still well worth the matinee price I paid.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Sunday, 30 November 2003 06:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

i hear it's very funny

cinniblount (James Blount), Sunday, 30 November 2003 06:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

I hear it's funny too but I'm skeptical, perhaps because I hated Ghost World

s1utsky (slutsky), Sunday, 30 November 2003 06:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

i was not a big ghost world the movie fan either

cinniblount (James Blount), Sunday, 30 November 2003 06:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

that is because you hate fun

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 30 November 2003 06:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

It is nothing like Ghost World (which I love).

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Sunday, 30 November 2003 06:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

I mean crumb was good

s1utsky (slutsky), Sunday, 30 November 2003 06:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

See that poster upthread? Stare at it for ten seconds, then decide if you want to see the film. It's a pretty accurate advertisement for the movie.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Sunday, 30 November 2003 06:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

see, it's the kid that worries me

s1utsky (slutsky), Sunday, 30 November 2003 07:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

that poster is hilarious, i'm actually incredulous that the movie could possibly live up to it

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 30 November 2003 07:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

but the kid

s1utsky (slutsky), Sunday, 30 November 2003 07:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

that said, the kid never makes that expression throughout the entire movie. I warmed to the kid, but no, he wasn't initially all that welcome.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Sunday, 30 November 2003 07:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

but stare into that elf's face. Therein lies the key.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Sunday, 30 November 2003 07:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

The kid ruined the trailer for me.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 30 November 2003 08:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

how much gilmore girl is in this?

cinniblount (James Blount), Sunday, 30 November 2003 08:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

her not being in the poster is an ominous sign

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 30 November 2003 09:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

i mean, they put the kid in and not lauren graham? and they want people to come see this?

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 30 November 2003 09:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

she was very endearing on conan

s1utsky (slutsky), Sunday, 30 November 2003 17:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

I took Adam's advice, I wanna see this film!!!

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 30 November 2003 18:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

There's something about a film that goes out of its way to be utterly appalling that makes me want to see it in the worst way. Bad Santa is a demonstration of this. Whoever greenlighted this is a genius, and all I've seen is the trailer.

-
Alan

Alan Conceicao, Sunday, 30 November 2003 18:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

fuckmesantafuckmesantafuckmesanta

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 04:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

I saw it at a matinee, and four elderly people walked about halfway through - I guess they were expecting The Santa Clause - missing the redemption. I like how Zwigoff is the anti-Alexander Payne, it would be too easy to be misanthropic with the characters and topics he dealt with.

The ending isn't as bad as I'd been led to believe, and for once the really-dark ending wouldn't have satisfied me.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 05:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh yeah I saw this in Chicago, it wasn't as funny as I expected. But it was ok.

NA (Nick A.), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 14:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

There's something about a film that goes out of its way to be utterly appalling that makes me want to see it in the worst way.

I really, really liked the black comedy aspect. So much so I resented the redemption and rehumanization aspect.

j.lu (j.lu), Thursday, 11 December 2003 00:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

j. lu OTfookin'M

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 11 December 2003 04:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

seven months pass...
Has anyone seen the DVD release with the x-rated footage they cut out? Is it worth renting? Because I thought it was about the funniest goddamn thing I saw last year. "You're not gonna shit right for a week!"

Harold Media (kenan), Saturday, 7 August 2004 01:27 (twenty years ago) link

oh good, Doug Ellin

Shakey δσς (sic), Saturday, 30 July 2016 01:01 (eight years ago) link

Can this possibly be worse than Trainspotting 2?

viborg, Saturday, 30 July 2016 03:36 (eight years ago) link

At least Trainspotting 2 has decent original material to draw from (Glue + Porno)

Οὖτις, Saturday, 30 July 2016 03:43 (eight years ago) link

I wasn't too impressed by Porno but it's been so long I can't remember why. That and Trainspotting are all I've read by him and I've heard his work is hit and miss so maybe I should give Glue a shot.

viborg, Saturday, 30 July 2016 03:50 (eight years ago) link

The ones i didnt like at all were the filth and malibu stork nightmares

Οὖτις, Saturday, 30 July 2016 03:58 (eight years ago) link

Sounds like it's only going to be extremely loosely based on Porno. And I wouldn't think it'll draw anything from Glue at all

Number None, Saturday, 30 July 2016 09:35 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qQWG_5wumA

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 20:24 (eight years ago) link

Maybe some cheap laughs but none of the pathos.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 20:25 (eight years ago) link

"The ones i didnt like at all were the filth and malibu stork nightmares"

I liked both of those! The Filth in particular, which is horrible but still good. Apparently there is a movie. I have no desire to see it.

akm, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 20:35 (eight years ago) link

I liked MSN, but I can see why Irvine Welsh doesn't: it sort of seems tacked together and finished in a rush.

Mark G, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 21:02 (eight years ago) link

holy shit the kid from Bad Santa looks the same only adult-sized in the trailer for 2

mh, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 19:07 (eight years ago) link

three months pass...

Seeing this sequel tonight, I don't dare raise my hopes any higher than "not completely terrible" tbh

diary of a mod how's life (wins), Monday, 21 November 2016 18:47 (eight years ago) link

(also don't feel Christmassy at all for obvious calendar-based reasons)

diary of a mod how's life (wins), Monday, 21 November 2016 18:48 (eight years ago) link

Will await w/interest

Mark G, Monday, 21 November 2016 19:17 (eight years ago) link

am hearing terrible

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 November 2016 19:19 (eight years ago) link

there's no way this isn't going to be godawful

harold melvin and the bluetones (jim in vancouver), Monday, 21 November 2016 19:22 (eight years ago) link

yeah quite aside from the usual years-later unnecessary sequel concerns the first film was kinda good against the odds, chances of that happening again are slim

diary of a mod how's life (wins), Monday, 21 November 2016 19:26 (eight years ago) link

i'd weigh in that the original had a lot of weird factors that contributed to its existence

the Coen brothers doing uncredited script doctoring, Zwigoff directing but the editing keeping it light (the director's cut is somehow darker and less funny), Cloris Leachman as the senile grandmother....

yeah, no high hopes here, but i will watch it

mh 😏, Monday, 21 November 2016 19:33 (eight years ago) link

Seeing the Welsh talk upthread reminds me that I was recently reminded that there was a movie of Acid House I completely forgot about released in '99, which was made up of the title story and two others from the book.

a full playlist of presidential apocalypse jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 21 November 2016 19:35 (eight years ago) link

I think I watched that but I have absolutely no memory of it whatsoever

mh 😏, Monday, 21 November 2016 19:35 (eight years ago) link

(the director's cut is somehow darker and less funny)

No kidding, he excised the best gag in the movie.

Dan Worsley, Monday, 21 November 2016 19:42 (eight years ago) link

well one thing I can say: if the turnout for this (free!) screening is anything to go by, people do not give a fuck about this film

diary of a mod how's life (wins), Monday, 21 November 2016 21:14 (eight years ago) link

I get the feeling that despite it's absolute shiteness I'll probably end up liking this. Despite both the actor/character dying I get the feeling Bernie Mac is a big loss for any bullshit sequel, he's at least a quarter of what I liked about the original.

calzino, Monday, 21 November 2016 21:31 (eight years ago) link

haaaalf

mh 😏, Monday, 21 November 2016 21:33 (eight years ago) link

(you walked into that one)

mh 😏, Monday, 21 November 2016 21:33 (eight years ago) link

fair enough

calzino, Monday, 21 November 2016 21:37 (eight years ago) link

No kidding, he excised the best gag in the movie.

― Dan Worsley, Monday, November 21, 2016 1:42 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

which one do you mean? Def ruined the ending. Also cutting the getting punched in the nuts while boxing gag

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 21 November 2016 22:09 (eight years ago) link

Re Acid House - I remember seeing "Screenplay by Irvine Welsh" and thinking "Uh-oh"

Rightly, as it turned out. Being a bunch of short stories, some were OK, but when they were bad, they were very bad.

Mark G, Monday, 21 November 2016 22:29 (eight years ago) link

there's only 3 of the short stories from the book in the film, it is a bad film

harold melvin and the bluetones (jim in vancouver), Monday, 21 November 2016 22:32 (eight years ago) link

yyyyeeeahh so

diary of a mod how's life (wins), Monday, 21 November 2016 22:50 (eight years ago) link

I think we're OK to just use this thread to talk about shitty Irvine Welsh flicks

diary of a mod how's life (wins), Monday, 21 November 2016 22:50 (eight years ago) link

No kidding, he excised the best gag in the movie.

― Dan Worsley, Monday, November 21, 2016 1:42 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

which one do you mean? Def ruined the ending. Also cutting the getting punched in the nuts while boxing gag

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, November 21, 2016 5:09 PM (forty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

asked and answered

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 21 November 2016 22:58 (eight years ago) link

'the best thing about 'bad santa' was the STORY'

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, November 1, 2005 9:58 AM (eleven years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 21 November 2016 23:06 (eight years ago) link

No kidding, he excised the best gag in the movie.

― Dan Worsley, Monday, November 21, 2016 1:42 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

which one do you mean? Def ruined the ending. Also cutting the getting punched in the nuts while boxing gag

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, November 21, 2016 5:09 PM (forty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

asked and answered

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 21 November 2016 22:58

I like the film but I would have cut that scene too.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 00:07 (eight years ago) link

That scene ruled, nut-knock based slapstick is always funny

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 00:46 (eight years ago) link

No kidding, he excised the best gag in the movie.

― Dan Worsley, Monday, November 21, 2016 1:42 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

which one do you mean? Def ruined the ending. Also cutting the getting punched in the nuts while boxing gag

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, November 21, 2016 5:09 PM (forty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

asked and answered

Ha, no. The gag about the safebreaker who could get into anything, even Margaret Thatcher's pussy.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, November 21, 2016 10:58 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:19 (eight years ago) link

That last resply was from me not caek obv.

Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:19 (eight years ago) link

reply even.

Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:20 (eight years ago) link

So, what did wins think?

Mark G, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 00:27 (eight years ago) link

god, i don't know which version of the original I've seen now...

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 10:02 (eight years ago) link

nine months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgoSq_2I8aM

louie mensch (milo z), Wednesday, 30 August 2017 08:03 (seven years ago) link

Shouldn't have had Marcus respond - just staring at him for an empty 10 seconds would have made this one of the best scenes ever.

louie mensch (milo z), Wednesday, 30 August 2017 08:04 (seven years ago) link

seven years pass...

Kid: What's the North Pole like?
Willie: It's like a suburb.
Kid: Which suburb?
Willie: Apache Junction. What the fuck do you care? Now get off my lap you sit there like a fuckin r***

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 22 December 2024 01:07 (sixteen hours ago) link

lmao

budo jeru, Sunday, 22 December 2024 01:18 (sixteen hours ago) link

“On MY head?” still makes me laugh like a loon

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 22 December 2024 01:54 (fifteen hours ago) link

lmao "apache junction"

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 22 December 2024 02:15 (fifteen hours ago) link

its so good

also: i like thinking of this as a Landman prequel

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 22 December 2024 02:18 (fifteen hours ago) link

Willie: What the FUCK is wrong with you? I can't remember this shit. Does everything with you have to be a fucking test?

brimstead, Sunday, 22 December 2024 04:43 (twelve hours ago) link

“And he can take his orders from the talking walnut, so it won't be my bad thing.”

This is the saddest line in the whole thing.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 22 December 2024 06:16 (eleven hours ago) link

yeah it always makes me a bit teary

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 22 December 2024 06:42 (ten hours ago) link


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