Old People With Young People's Names and Vice Versa

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do you know any?

MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 28 November 2003 09:47 (twenty-one years ago)

like, I met a Doris in her twenties yesterday. But she was from Germany.

MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 28 November 2003 09:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd like to nominate Tracer Hand's "real name". I mean, how many people have you met walking around with that name since, like, 1000 B.C.? Cool!

Citizen Kate (kate), Friday, 28 November 2003 10:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Emma is considered an old woman's name in Germany.

Most old Traceys are men.

MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 28 November 2003 10:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Here's one: McCartney's new baby.... BEATRICE MILLY. what the fuck?

Catty (Catty), Friday, 28 November 2003 11:38 (twenty-one years ago)

or how about that 87-year-old I met the other day named iPod?! what's up with that?!

M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 28 November 2003 11:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I always associated Daisy with OAPs and cows before Daisy Donovan appear on the telly.

Grace seems to have undergone a revival in the last few years.

MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 28 November 2003 11:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Our first daughter's name will be Ruby. That sorta counts.


I know a young Basil. I can't for the life of me see how anyone can look at a baby and call it Henry, Herman, George, Oscar, etc. "Baby Butch." "Baby Gus." ???

roger adultery, Friday, 28 November 2003 13:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I heard a woman telling her little boy off at the bus stop earlier in the week. His name was Salem. An old name to be sure, but only a place name - was it ever used as a person's name in antiquity?

MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 28 November 2003 13:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I have a friend called Maureen. In her twenties, Italian.

Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 28 November 2003 13:54 (twenty-one years ago)

isn't it odd how female names, with the exception of Sarah for some reason, are far more subject to fashion than male ones. A man or boy might be called John, Jonathan, Robert, Richard, Martin, Mark or David and be equally likely to be 1 or 80 years old.

MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 28 November 2003 13:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Maureen isn't really an uncommon name though (round here).

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 28 November 2003 13:59 (twenty-one years ago)

yes I've noticed that in Ireland a lot of names which have gone out of fashion in England are still common - Maureen, Joan, Margaret.....

MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 28 November 2003 14:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Having an old person's name == Teh Suck.

It's nothing but people going "so, is that foreign, then?" and my mother telling me about the middle-aged lady she met the other day whose aunt had my name. And was born in the twenties. And is now DEAD.

cis (cis), Friday, 28 November 2003 14:08 (twenty-one years ago)

"is that foreign" strikes an illiberal note with me.

MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 28 November 2003 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)

It's political correctness gone mad!

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 28 November 2003 14:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Markelby has mysteriously transmogrified into Richard Littlejohn.

MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 28 November 2003 14:27 (twenty-one years ago)

And you've turned into a bleeding heart champagne socialist of the 80s.

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 28 November 2003 14:29 (twenty-one years ago)

The 'is that foreign' thing just gets to me because my instinctive reaction is to say "and there's something wrong with that?" and I'm trying to be cheery and non-argumentative at the moment and besides that it's beside the point. And there's this look on their faces, and for crying out loud it's just a name, let it lie, and... other college-related gripes and annoyances.

cis (cis), Friday, 28 November 2003 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I have THE UNIVERSAL NAME.

I am not sure if I feel very much like a Sarah.

Sarah (starry), Friday, 28 November 2003 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

you live in London, right? It's not what I'd expect to hear there. Rural Dorset or Northumberland or other places with tiny non-white populations then maybe.

MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 28 November 2003 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I like the name Sarah. Do you feel more like a Sara? the trouble with Saras is that some of them like to have their name pronounced the same as Sarah and some so it rhymes with Tara.

MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 28 November 2003 14:49 (twenty-one years ago)

P4ris Hi1ton to thread!

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 28 November 2003 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Paris is a funny one isn't it? Originally a male name, it's now a female name where it's a name at all e.g. Paris Grey of Inner City.

MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 28 November 2003 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Paris of Troy

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 28 November 2003 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)

The more I look at the name "Sarah", the more I am convinced that it is a grebt name for a Dr Who monster. Perhaps I am just thinking of SCAROTH but still.

Sarah (starry), Friday, 28 November 2003 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Plaster of Paris

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 28 November 2003 14:57 (twenty-one years ago)

m'boys names are: Rufus, Elmer, and Leroy. Roof gets some shit at school but his response if usually "..so..I like my name." it gives him character.

thomas de'aguirre (biteylove), Friday, 28 November 2003 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

MarkH - I do live in London, and this generally comes up in my college which is very much racially mixed. And yet for some reason my name is a huge surprise (along with my accent, and my gender, and my social background, and and and): it's just another thing which makes me a curiosity and must be queried and gone over and over and over again.

It's better than Tabitha, though, I guess.

cis (cis), Friday, 28 November 2003 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

thomas, just make sure he knows how to do the funky chicken...that should get him through until middle school at least.

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 28 November 2003 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

he's a cut up fer sure..

thomas de'aguirre (biteylove), Friday, 28 November 2003 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Cis, is "Cis" your full name?

(I have a feeling I got you in your "being smiley and pleasant but actually finding the person you're talking to quite annoying" persona the other night - apologies :))

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 28 November 2003 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

My real name is an old-timey name, though not nearly as dignified as Horace.

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 28 November 2003 15:49 (twenty-one years ago)

does Cis have a sibling called Trans?

MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 28 November 2003 15:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Nah, the full name's Cecily (but pronouced by me mam as in Sicily, for some reason. And hence the is-that-foreign? no doubt). Neatly shortens to 'sissy' for full playground effect.

(Baz, dude, you didn't, no worries. That persona is so much more polite. ;))

cis (cis), Friday, 28 November 2003 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

i knew a few eunices in college. that name that sounds extremely old to me.

lauren (laurenp), Friday, 28 November 2003 17:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Well I like my name. "John" is probably the most anonymous name you can think of - following-the-crowd is the new individuality.

Johnney B (Johnney B), Saturday, 29 November 2003 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)

the trouble with Saras is that some of them like to have their name pronounced the same as Sarah and some so it rhymes with Tara.

Hmmm. In the U.S., all three of these names are pronounced the same: SAIR-uh.

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 29 November 2003 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Where are the Old People With Young People's Names as promised by this thread!

cuspidorian (cuspidorian), Saturday, 29 November 2003 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I had a friend in college whose mom was named Jennifer -- which struck me as a particularly "young" name for someone over the age of 40 to have.

Also, although the names have been around forever, you don't see too many Adams or Jasons among the elderly (Jason Robards being a recent exception).

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 29 November 2003 21:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Over here Tara is pronouced Tahr-ah rather than Tair-uh, if this makes things clearer.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Sunday, 30 November 2003 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

My nan's name is Zeta, and shes 80something, so every time I hear Catherine Zeta-Jones' name it really jars with me. Its also a very unusual name anyway.

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 1 December 2003 00:59 (twenty-one years ago)

'heard a woman telling her little boy off at the bus stop earlier in the week. His name was Salem. An old name to be sure, but only a place name - was it ever used as a person's name in antiquity?'

Dunno about 'antiquity' but there is/was a writer who around the 70s specialised in froot-loop books about The Second Coming, whose name was Salem Kirban. He may have been of Mid East or Eurasian origin.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Monday, 1 December 2003 01:19 (twenty-one years ago)


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