What's it (un)acceptable to boast about?

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
ILX is full, among many other wonderful things, of what can be seen as boasting, from the very subtle to the shouting-from-the-rooftops. Most of it is fine or interesting; occasionally it gets tiresome or irritating.

So what do you feel you can show off about? What can't you? What gets on your tits? Etc. Etc.

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 28 November 2003 10:46 (twenty-two years ago)

penis size

man, Friday, 28 November 2003 10:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Really? The only person's penis size I know on ILX is Sean's, I think, and it seemed a very reasonable size.

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 28 November 2003 10:53 (twenty-two years ago)

income/car/stereo -- suxxor

obviously it's fine to boast abt yr grebt erudition!

boasting abt sex is stupid and usually conjures up 'protest too much' thoughts in me. it's not something you can rank or quantify...

enrique (Enrique), Friday, 28 November 2003 10:53 (twenty-two years ago)

It's not a question of *what* people boast about, but more *how* they boast, or perhaps more importantly, my inferral about *how* they are boasting.

Boasting of the "wow, this is so great, everybody be happy for me/with me" type is almost never going to annoy me. (Unless I think they don't deserve it, in which case I get jealous, which is a different story.)

Boasting of the type of "I rock, therefore I am so much BETTER than you!" really gets on my tits, especially if combined with an attitude of "Everyone else who has NOT accomplished my heights is lazy or stupid or otherwise worthless and needs to shut up and stop raining on my parade" MAKES ME WANT TO PUNCH PEOPLE.

Vindication boasting, however, I'm more likely to forgive and tolerate. (Unless I think the vindication crow is done in the direction of someone who is not deserving of the abuse.)

Sexual boasting, I generally just roll my eyes and ignore. Because sexual boasting is about making the boaster feel better about themselves (Yes, I'm guilty of this myself) rather than trying to impress anyone else.

Citizen Kate (kate), Friday, 28 November 2003 10:55 (twenty-two years ago)

What if, say, I was really good at the trumpet, and told you that I was really good at the trumpet? In a conversation about trumpet playing?

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 28 November 2003 10:56 (twenty-two years ago)

hmmm -- that's okay. it's more at work dos when the first topic of conversation is what kind of car you have (i don't drive) etc. that's a real killer.

enrique (Enrique), Friday, 28 November 2003 10:58 (twenty-two years ago)

What if, say, I was really good at sex, and told you that I was really good at sex? In a conversation about sex?

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 28 November 2003 10:58 (twenty-two years ago)

We'd want proof Mark.

Archel (Archel), Friday, 28 November 2003 10:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Proof? OK, I'll be back...

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 28 November 2003 10:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Ack. The other one...

Archel (Archel), Friday, 28 November 2003 11:00 (twenty-two years ago)

hee. I kinda knew that.

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 28 November 2003 11:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Also, it's quite difficult to acertain differences between people's expectations of what consists boasting.

The person doing the boasting may not even be aware they're boasting - they're just having a normal conversation about their lives, which is interpreted by someone as boasting.

There's also a huge cultural cross-pond divide on this. The English, as would be expected, are far more uptight about boasting. One of the complaints from my grandparents when we moved to the US was that we "boasted", when we were just crowing about our accademic achievements in a way that was just totally de rigeur in our American prep schools.

Citizen Kate (kate), Friday, 28 November 2003 11:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I guess Martin's comments on the sex board spurred this, among a couple of other things that I might come to later. Now, I know Martin is a thoroughly decent chap and as honest as his cock is long. So why do I have a problem with him simply stating a fact? I suppose it's probably because it's on an emotive subject where insecurity lurks behind every corner and any kind of unfavourable comparison destroys huge swathes of confidence. But does that mean he shouldn't have said what he said? I don't know.Maybe.

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 28 November 2003 11:10 (twenty-two years ago)

is it acceptable to boast about boasting?

i'm AMAZING at boasting.

ken c, Friday, 28 November 2003 11:11 (twenty-two years ago)

woe is me/sympathy boasting is always fascinating. can be worn like a badge

charltonlido (gareth), Friday, 28 November 2003 11:13 (twenty-two years ago)

i am worse off than you!

stevem (blueski), Friday, 28 November 2003 11:15 (twenty-two years ago)

woe is me/sympathy boasting is always fascinating. can be worn like a badge

of course -- but then the rich don't boast becasue in their minds the way things are is entirely natural. they don't need to boast because it's incredibly obvious what they are.

enrique (Enrique), Friday, 28 November 2003 11:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Is this where I start talking about my trust fund?

Citizen Kate (kate), Friday, 28 November 2003 11:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Shouldn't that be on the trusta thread?

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 28 November 2003 11:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I never boast! Except to boast about how I don't boast! Boasting is a sick word. I prefer BRAG.

Mandee (Jerrynipper), Friday, 28 November 2003 11:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Is there a difference between boasting and bragging, or is that just a Saxon/French double word English quirk thing?

Citizen Kate (kate), Friday, 28 November 2003 11:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Did I kill this thread or what? Honestly, it was an honest question, and not just an attempt to get into linguistics.

Is there a difference between bragging and boasting? ANyone? Bueller?

Citizen Kate (kate), Friday, 28 November 2003 13:31 (twenty-two years ago)

'bragging' related to something Italian?

Archel (Archel), Friday, 28 November 2003 13:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Middle English braggen, from brag, ostentatious
Middle English bosten, from bost, a brag

Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 28 November 2003 13:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Archel, you may be thinking of
Alteration of Braggadocchio, the personification of vainglory in The Faerie Queene by Edmund Spenser, from brag

Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 28 November 2003 13:45 (twenty-two years ago)

what about boasting about how lame you are? like i used to do?

hmm

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 28 November 2003 13:46 (twenty-two years ago)

dud, g-kit, I think.

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 28 November 2003 13:46 (twenty-two years ago)

see? i suck. etc.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 28 November 2003 13:49 (twenty-two years ago)

haha :)

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 28 November 2003 13:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Parts of this thread feel pretty passive-aggressive to me.

I don't think you can lay down specific guidelines for what sorts of things are alright to boast about and which aren't, not in the least because 'boasting' is such a context and receiver-specific term.

mark p (Mark P), Friday, 28 November 2003 13:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I always try to let people know that I realize that boasting can be insufferable when I start talking myself up. This is also another reason why I wield humor like a blunt object; there's this odd dichotemy of the high opinion I have of myself and the fear that others won't recognize it, so I try to cast everything in a humorous light so that people will warm to me and find me entertaining, but then I worry that no one will ever take me seriously when I'm actually trying to be serious, and then all of a sudden it's all HELLO VICIOUS CIRCLE OF DOOM HOW'S YOUR FATHER etc etc etc and I want to punch a wall.

I think I need a kitten.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 28 November 2003 14:59 (twenty-two years ago)

howdy. take me home.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 28 November 2003 15:02 (twenty-two years ago)

But you'd just strangle it, Dan.

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 28 November 2003 15:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Kittens were put on this earth for no other purpose. Wait, that came out all wrong.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 28 November 2003 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)

But you'd just strangle it, Dan.

Kitten, not chicken.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 28 November 2003 15:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I am glad that I got through my huge difficulties with the house today, and am therefore coming out of the depths of what felt a seriously dangerous depression, or this thread might have devastated me. I feel the need to repeat that I was not intending to boast, that I was genuinely bewildered by what I was reading, that I could not possibly imagine myself to be any kind of exceptional lover, and that my worldview has had to be modified in some small way as a result of that discussion. Frankly, even before I saw any response to my first post on that thread, I was already regretting saying a word (I think I said as much to some people in AIM), and I was half tempted to go back and delete it. I wish I had.

On that thread Mark suggested it was boasting in the same way as posting about my score on I think pinball (or was it Minesweeper?). In fact, these games are indeed things I feel inclined to boast about, directly because they are such lame things to be really good at. In the same way, as I've said to a few people (inclusing Suzy and others last weekend), I really like namedropping names that 95% of people haven't heard of.

Ah well, fortunately things improved for me today and I don't feel so bad and this bothers me less than it probably seems from the above.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 28 November 2003 20:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Markelby I read that whole thread you're talking about and you came across well, as a person who it would be possible to sleep with and for it not to be awful and riddled with silly nonsense, because you didn't boast and were self deprecating etc, so doesn't that answer your question about boasting? I mean not boasting is an obvious winner. NOt that Martin would ever have meant to boast, he's kind and compassionate and tries to share what he knows which is a great thing.

m-ry-nn (m-ry-nn), Saturday, 29 November 2003 00:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I just realised that prefacing a poem I contributed to this board with 'BRILLIANT' might have detracted a bit from its obvious brilliance

m-ry-nn (m-ry-nn), Saturday, 29 November 2003 00:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I think it's unacceptable to boast about.

RJG (RJG), Saturday, 29 November 2003 00:59 (twenty-two years ago)

This is a very tricky topic. I don't find a lot of bragging here. Perhaps it comes down to a lack of sensitivity? With so many different personalities, perhaps it is difficult to predict in advance what will make someone feel insecure? In daily life you can tailor your response to the friend(s) you are with; if some one I'm with is unhappy in their job or unemployed I will probably not talk to them at length about happy I am in my job and how great it is. (Purely hypothetical situation obviously.) However, with so many people reading (delusions of grandeur), we can't tailor our reponses to make sure not to offend any one.

Another important aspect is if the person seems genuinely happy for themselves at what they've achieved or received. In almost all cases, I would then be very happy for that person (with maybe a little tinge of jealousy). If, though, they seemed blase and the purpose of their telling seemed to be only to impress to me, I would probably resent them, plus not be happy for them, and probably not be at all jealous (well, maybe a little).

As for boasting, that sounds like a something you should do at boarding school, to keep an even level with your friends, who are already boasting themselves.

Mary (Mary), Saturday, 29 November 2003 08:02 (twenty-two years ago)


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.