Carson McCullers

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She pops up in the reading threads now and then, so I think it's time the lady had a thread of her own.

I loved The Heart is a Lonely Hunter. Beautiful characterisation and acute observation of interwoven relationships. Same with Ballad of the Sad Cafe and her life was as interesting as her books.

You can't beat a bit of southern gothic on a drizzly Wednesday morning, I reckon.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 11:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I reckon too. But I don't know much about her life. Tell me more...

Tag (Tag), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 13:44 (twenty-one years ago)

i agree. the heart is a lonely hunter is gorgeous. i like ballad of the sad cafe and member of the wedding, too, athough not quite as much.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 13:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm with Lauren -- there's something haunting about The Heart Is a Lonely Hunter that her other books (though good) don't quite live up to.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 13:51 (twenty-one years ago)

"But I don't know much about her life. Tell me more..."

Born 1917 in Columbus, Georgia. Has every illness under the sun. Marries, divorces, marries again. Same bloke too. Tries suicide. Fails. Husband tries suicide. Fails. Has series of strokes plus pleurisy, paralysis and depression. Cancerous breast removed. Wheelchair bound. Dies 1967.

When not ill, she wrote great books.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

She's awesome despite being a total proto-indie chick.

http://www.csustan.edu/english/reuben/pal/chap10/mccullers.gif

adam (adam), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

One of my favorites. Nobody I've read writes about loneliness as adeptly as her. I remember in one of her short stories, she describes a sensation in a part of the male anatomy that only men should know about, and I thought, "How does she know about that?!"

Heh, I didn't know she was in Sleater-Kinney.

Ernest P. (ernestp), Thursday, 4 December 2003 03:17 (twenty-one years ago)

six months pass...
I love carson mccullers.

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 24 June 2004 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)

as you should.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 24 June 2004 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

have you seen the film of the heart is a lonely hunter lauren?

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 24 June 2004 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)

nope. it's perpetually on the list but never actually gets watched. have you?

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 24 June 2004 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

There's a film of "the heart is a lonely hunter"?

The Charlotte Gainsbourg film "L'effrontee" seems to be uncannily similar to "Member of the wedding" although I don't think it's credited as such.

Tag (Tag), Thursday, 24 June 2004 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, I think so. I watched it before I knew what it was, back when I was at school, off school one day, on channel 5. I figure, at the time, I just liked the title. it's not so good, actually. maybe a bit heavy-handed? doesn't quite capture the happy-sad loneliness / humanity. um. it's been so long actually since I watched it and so long since I read the book. mccullers has a spare prose that, like say maybe jean rhys (I often think of them, together) (though rhys I always think of lonelier, more bleary-eyed, consumed by her own bitter romantic), a prose which is able to capture or convey a quality of light in a characters eye or how the air is hung with certain smells which is quite perfect. I love her books.

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 24 June 2004 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)

although maybe not perfectly qualified to recommend this, since it's been so long since I read 'thialh', you should read, if you haven't already, rhys' 'good morning, midnight', lauren. it might be my favourite book.

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 24 June 2004 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

'the heart is a lonely hunter'.

(what is this: maeumeun wiroun sanyangun (trans: 'the heart is a lonely hunter')?).

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 24 June 2004 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw the film before reading the book, and preferred it, actually, though it sucked all the surprise out of the book for me, obviously, which might have been why (my fave's the Member of the Wedding) Has anyone seen the adaptation of Reflections in a Golden Eye? I'm curious to know if they managed to get it even half right.

Jamie Conway (Jamie Conway), Thursday, 24 June 2004 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)

rhys is a bit more... astringent? does that make sense? mccullers has a leanness, but rhys takes it to another level (emaciation?). it always stuns me how incredibly descriptive and evocative the latter manages to be with such frugality of expression.

xpost - good morning, midnight is one of my all-time most loved books.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 24 June 2004 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, Cozen, I noticed that Chinese film. It doesn't sound like Carson from the brief summary.

Tag (Tag), Thursday, 24 June 2004 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

haha yeah emaciation. : /

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 24 June 2004 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

ps- cozen pls read rosamund lehman's dusty answer.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 24 June 2004 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

The world of Jean Rhys's fiction is both strange and unnervingly familiar. Anyone who has ever been lonely, uncertain, afraid will find something of themselves here; something of the insidious, banal horror of a simply unhappy life. Anyone who has ever been surprised by a moment of intensity, by the peculiar beauties of everyday life will rediscover the almost physical impact of such encounters in Rhys's work. Splintered and melancholic, even surreal, it is still rarely anything less than powerful. Human emotions are leant a dreadful articulacy as they slither towards the edge of reasonable endurance via periods of boredom and desperation, fragile optimism and pure slapstick. Grief is saved from self-indulgence by a vitriolic humour and an uncanny, even disturbing, gift for observation.

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 24 June 2004 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Just read 'the heart.....' while on hols, what astounded me was the depth of her wisdom and insight at the meagre age of 23! So interesting biographical titbits would relate to how the hell she managed this.

sandy mc (sandy mc), Friday, 25 June 2004 06:50 (twenty-one years ago)

refelctions in a golden eye has liz taylor giving marlon brando the whip en public. never read te book.

erik, Friday, 25 June 2004 09:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I like The Member of the Wedding best. I too saw The Heart is a Lonely Hunter on daytime TV once, but from halfway through and not knowing what it was.

Archel (Archel), Friday, 25 June 2004 09:43 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
I must read her!

I might start with short stories.

the bellefox, Saturday, 26 November 2005 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

I love Carson McCullers...a few months ago I went on a reading rampage and read "The Heart is a Lonely Hunter" and "The Member of the Wedding" back to back. I first became interested in her novels after reading about February House, when Carson lived with Auden, Benjamin Britten, Gypsy Rose Lee in a house in Brooklyn and worked on "The Member of the Wedding." There's a fantastic scene in the book where she has an epiphany about "Wedding" and essentially runs down the street in the rain.

fiofio (fiona), Saturday, 26 November 2005 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

yes, you must, pf.
I read The Heart Is a Lonely Hunter in late spring this year as well as few other short novels/stories in a collected works. It puts a person in a bit of a state, if you read too much at once, because, well, it's good. Made me want to visit the U.S. south something awful too. (even if I know it's not going to be as it was then... which is kind of sad, but fitting, I suppose.)

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Saturday, 26 November 2005 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

I brought home a bunch of books the girl recommended to me that i never read. There was a lot of mcullers, i think i will start with the heart is a lonely hunter.

jeffrey (johnson), Saturday, 26 November 2005 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

The Heart is a Lonely Hunter is exquisite. The best novel I've read (for the first time) in the past 3 or 4 years apart from, maybe, The Master and Margarita.

frankiemachine, Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

two years pass...

All of a sudden I want Gary Larson to draw a panel entitled "Salad of the Bad Cafe."

jaymc, Friday, 11 July 2008 15:06 (seventeen years ago)

There was some off-B'way thing titled that a few years ago.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 11 July 2008 19:05 (seventeen years ago)

I did, finally, read her - The Heart is a Lonely Hunter, last summer, around August, a Penguin from the library. It was a little long, and very gloomy at times (yes, yes, like life) - but serious, a piece of work, with at least three elements that seem worth recalling:

1. a genuine, profound, shattering vision of loss, heartbreak, melancholy;

2. politics - to a degree that is probably overlooked, the book is serious and impassioned about politics, though it (she) recognizes how difficult and desperate the struggle for progress is (primarily black emancipation / racial equality, perhaps, but here that is very much considered in tandem and in connection with socialism and class struggle);

3. a touch of youthful joy, the girl (Mick Kelly - what a name, that's practically like a boy named Sue) who listens to music and wants, I think, to be a composer - here is the mildly proto-Salingeresque element, the sweetness and possibility of youth, though amid squalor and struggle.

the pinefox, Friday, 11 July 2008 19:25 (seventeen years ago)

I just read The Member of the Wedding about a week ago, one of those books that you slip into in a dangerous way, afterwards it's tough to get out, the whole world seems loose and spinning very fast. The inner monologue of Frankie (F. Jasmine) is so delicately preserved and the whole thing feels so precarious, as though the slightest slip could bring it all tumbling down. It is a remarkable piece of elegant writing. Unlike this post, obv.

I know, right?, Friday, 11 July 2008 19:32 (seventeen years ago)

The fate of John Henry is devastating. Why does he have to suffer?

I know, right?, Friday, 11 July 2008 19:34 (seventeen years ago)

the original 1952 movie version of the member of the wedding is so great. julie harris!

but i love the movie version of the heart is a lonely hunter too. sondra locke!

and i love john huston's reflections in a golden eye. totally true to the mad tone of the book! plus, julie harris!

and i even loved merchant/ivory's ballad of the sad cafe. vanessa redgrave!

i can't think of another author i like who has been honored so faithfully by film people. she got lucky.

now we just need some sympathetic genius to take a crack at clock without hands.

scott seward, Friday, 11 July 2008 20:47 (seventeen years ago)

The adaptation of Reflections is batshit in a good way.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 11 July 2008 20:50 (seventeen years ago)

She is one of those authors whose appeal is heightened by photographs of.

I know, right?, Sunday, 13 July 2008 20:44 (seventeen years ago)

She looks how she writes (?)

I know, right?, Sunday, 13 July 2008 20:44 (seventeen years ago)

I think I know what you mean -- the Cartier-Bresson photos of her are great.

James Morrison, Sunday, 13 July 2008 23:34 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

guys do you see at the end of the heart is a lonely hunter war is about to break out do you see DO YOU SEE

thomp, Sunday, 6 September 2009 00:00 (sixteen years ago)

o the loneliness ~

thomp, Sunday, 6 September 2009 00:00 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...

haha thomp

was thinking of "the way i need you is a loneliness i cannot bear" & how intensely felt a novel the heart is a loner hunter is, what depth of feeling she brings to bear

ban lex pretend (Lamp), Friday, 1 April 2011 05:02 (fourteen years ago)

tell me more
http://covers.openlibrary.org/b/id/208839-L.jpg

Slag, Friday, 1 April 2011 07:06 (fourteen years ago)


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