― logged off, Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― Citizen Kate (kate), Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― Nu-Enrique (Enrique), Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)
Maybe I don't understand cause I've not been in a relationship long enough for it to get boring enough to want to sleep around... but what would be the point?
― Citizen Kate (kate), Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― Rob M (Rob M), Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― logged off, Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― MarkH (MarkH), Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)
a lot of people disagree with this outlook, however. including my partner.
― Catty (Catty), Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jeremy the Kingfish (Kingfish), Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:35 (twenty-one years ago)
If you want to be with someone, then be with them. If you want to be with someone else, or else you want to sleep around, then be single. Maybe this is too simplistic a dichotomy, but I just don't understand being any other way.
― Citizen Kate (kate), Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)
Let's shag.
(Joke, btw)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)
i know what kate means in re terminology, but this sounds kind of humane really.
― Enrique (Enrique), Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)
BILL : What makes me an exception is that...Ihappen to be in love with you and becausewe're married and because I would never lie toyou or hurt you.
ALICE: Do you realize that what you're saying is thatthe only reason you wouldn't fuck those twomodels is out of consideration for me, notbecause you really wouldn't want to?
BILL: Let's just relax, Alice. This pot is making youaggressive.
― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― logged off, Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― Catty (Catty), Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― Citizen Kate (kate), Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― Catty (Catty), Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― Citizen Kate (kate), Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― logged off, Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:59 (twenty-one years ago)
"I mean, even Bono cheats on his wife, and he's next to God!" - The Boy
― Catty (Catty), Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:59 (twenty-one years ago)
UK ILX = "Coupling"!!!!!!
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:59 (twenty-one years ago)
They weren't queueing up, admittedly. But they don't. (unless you are vaguely famous apparently, but anyway)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)
If it's not OK for your partner, then it's not OK for you. End of story.
The funny thing is, my partner is fairly secure, and has even joked about me shagging other people. I don't find these jokes funny, because if he shagged someone else, I'd go mental and definitely leave him.
― Citizen Kate (kate), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)
I totally agree. What I meant by "heavy romanticised emotional attachment to sex" is that sex does not always automatically equal love. Having sex with someone doesn't mean that person loves you or even likes you, which ties back into your comment about emotions note being something to toy with. Trust and honesty are important in any relationship, not just a sexual or Relationship relationship.
― Catty (Catty), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)
Hah hah! Tell him we're off the see the Channel Six and see how secure he is! ;)
Maybe he's just trying to tell you he wants to see you and some of those ladies from that Renault commercial shake your groove thing ensemble. *rrrrrggglllllleeeee!!!!*
― Catty (Catty), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― oops (Oops), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― Citizen Kate (kate), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)
i.e. not the same.
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)
However, the one time that he did actually get jealous and weird was in regards to the C6. (Even though that's a crush that's so dead I forget it ever meant something to me.) I said that you wanted to take me to see Dan C6, and he said "Who's Dan C6?" and I said "the boy that Channel Heaven is about" and he just got this supremely pissed off look and said "you're sacked!"
― Citizen Kate (kate), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― Catty (Catty), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)
Conversely, I would never admit I fancied any girl (famous) to her. mostly as I don't. (That doesn't look right, but I'll leave it like that)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:09 (twenty-one years ago)
eh?
― Nu-Enrique (Enrique), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:10 (twenty-one years ago)
yeah, and he wasn't even the reason we were going! he was just an opening act!
I bet that has a lot to do with the art produced as a side effect of that crush. "Channel Heaven" is a luverly song and he's probably just moaning that there aren't any luverly songs about him on yummylicious thick raspberry vinyl.
― Catty (Catty), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― Catty (Catty), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)
I would like to see a culture than can institutionalise a woman having more than one husband or a harem instead of the other way around.
― Catty (Catty), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)
(x-post. sorta)
― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)
I'm way too lazy to even think about dealing with someone who doesn't know what I like in bed.
― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)
ha ha. Just kidding.
But seriously, folks. I love my bf so much that I'm not having sex these whole 2 weeks he's out of the state. Isn't that amazing?
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)
Sex without love is like sharing potato waffles without love.
― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 4 December 2003 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Friday, 5 December 2003 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)
It doesn't always have to equate to sex either. I'd love to be able to cuddle and have a snog/be physically close to a few of my lovely male friends. I choose not to because I know Nick would be upset about it. But we can both happily perv on people (of either sex) and tell each other about it and not get upset. Now THATS trust if you ask me. Hell, I was telling Jim about someone I crush on the other night and Nick was sitting right next to me and didnt mind a bit.
Cos he knows I lub him!
― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 5 December 2003 00:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― Orbit (Orbit), Friday, 5 December 2003 03:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― c in regina, Friday, 5 December 2003 03:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― A Girl Named Sam (thatgirl), Friday, 5 December 2003 03:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― c in regina, Friday, 5 December 2003 03:20 (twenty-one years ago)
if you were absolutely certain your partner could never find out?
Is the bit that bugs the shit out of me. Even what Catty is talking about is something very different from this. IF you are the type of person that wants/needs a flexible or open relationship, that's still very different from the subject of this thead. Because in infidelity, it's not the SEX that hurts and destroys the relationship, it's the lying. It's called infidelity for a reason.
I think what is being asked in this thread is "would you sleep around if you were absolutely certain that your partner COULD NOT GET HURT BY IT" which is NOT the same thing as not finding out/knowing about it. Not finding out/not knowing actually makes it WORSE because lying and betrayal of trust compounds the actual sex.
What Catty wants is a "get out of relationship free card" for fantasy.
The only way I could possibly see it as being OK is if both partners were aware of, and OK with it. And I am just not that kind of person. (Not a value judgement, BTW. It's just not in my personality.)
― Citizen Kate (kate), Friday, 5 December 2003 09:11 (twenty-one years ago)
That scenario before (polyamorous), I know if my favourite girlfrend was getting cuddly w/someone else, i'd just get sulky.
It's not for me, but yeah I've seen it happen. It doesn't work though, not as well...
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 5 December 2003 09:16 (twenty-one years ago)