I'm trying to remember as many of the various immortal folks from myths and legend as possible -- the Wandering Jew was the first one who came to mind, the guy who Jesus made immortal (until the Second Coming) as punishment; then I remember Koshchei (Koczey, etc.) the Undying, the Russian guy whose death is hidden in an egg in the thrice-tenth kingdom.
Folks who aren't immortal because they're gods or half-gods or whatever but who were somehow given or discovered immortality. That's more interesting to me. There are undoubtedly others, and I'm sure in 7th grade I could've rattled off a dozen names, but I'm coming up blank. The memory problem again.
So this is the thread to list and talk about those folks.
― Tep (ktepi), Saturday, 6 December 2003 01:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 6 December 2003 02:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― Orbit (Orbit), Saturday, 6 December 2003 02:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 6 December 2003 02:14 (twenty-one years ago)
http://www.thewhitewillow.com/history.html
― kephm, Saturday, 6 December 2003 06:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tep (ktepi), Saturday, 6 December 2003 07:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― man, Saturday, 6 December 2003 07:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― Kingfish Beestick (Kingfish), Saturday, 6 December 2003 08:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― zappi (joni), Saturday, 6 December 2003 08:52 (twenty-one years ago)
did you ever see the photo "The Unexplained" ran of some chancer in the 1970s who claimed to be the Count of St. Germain? He looked like some chancer from the 1970s.
― DV (dirtyvicar), Saturday, 6 December 2003 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― caitlin (caitlin), Saturday, 6 December 2003 12:38 (twenty-one years ago)
Agastya. Trishanku. Yayati...
Hercules. Sisyphus (but in a bad way). and yes Prometheus:
Chiron was immortal and could not end by death the intolerable pain of the wound he received from the arrow of Heracles (see M/L, Chapter 22). He exchanged his immortality with Prometheus, dying in place of Prometheus when he was released by Heracles http://www.classicalmythology.org/chaptertopics/25/summary.html
Osiris was supposed to be immortal but there were mad problemz!!
― Vic (Vic), Saturday, 6 December 2003 13:08 (twenty-one years ago)
Atrahasis and Ut-napishtim: Like the Sumerian Ziusudra (the Xisuthros of Berossus) or Noah from the Pentateuch, were the long-lived survivors of the great flood which wiped out the rest of humanity. In Atrahasis' case, Ellil had grown tired of the noise that the mass of humanity was making, and after a series of disasters failed to eliminate the problem, he had Enki release the floodgates to drown them out. Since Enki had a hand in creating man, he wanted to preserve his creation, warned Atrahasis, and had him build a boat, with which he weathered the flood. He also had kept his ear open to Enki during the previous disasters and had been able to listen to Enki's advice on how to avoid their full effects by making the appropriate offerings to the appropriate deities. He lived hundreds of years prior to the flood, while Utnapishtim lives forever after the flood.
Utnapishtim of Shuruppak was the son of Ubaratutu. His flood has no reason behind it save the stirrings of the hearts of the Gods. As with Atrahasis, Utnapishtim is warned to build an ark by Ea. He is also told to abandon riches and possessions and seek life and to tell the city elders that he is hated by Enlil and would go to the watery Abyss to live with Ea via the ark. He loads gold, silver, and the seed of all living creatures into the ark and all of his craftsmen's children as well. After Ea advises Enlil on better means to control the human population, (predators, famine, and plague), Enlil makes Utnapishtim and his wife immortal, like the gods.
im havin fun researching your homework 4 u!
― Vic (Vic), Saturday, 6 December 2003 13:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― Vic (Vic), Saturday, 6 December 2003 13:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Saturday, 6 December 2003 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― DV (dirtyvicar), Saturday, 6 December 2003 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)
(He was briefly in the Avengers in the late 80's/early 90's, oh and it's some epic poem too)
― jel -- (jel), Saturday, 6 December 2003 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Saturday, 6 December 2003 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― dave k, Saturday, 6 December 2003 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)
Lots of excellent suggestions (and I need to read more of the Mahabharata, I've only read selections). Count St Germain is one I keep vacillating on because of Yarbro's book(s?) about him; I'm not doing vampires, but I'm not sure how many readers realize she didn't make him up, and I don't want to come across as derivative of her. There's good material there, though.
― Tep (ktepi), Saturday, 6 December 2003 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― DV (dirtyvicar), Saturday, 6 December 2003 23:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 7 December 2003 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)
saturation nuke Mount Olympus from orbit.
― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Sunday, 7 December 2003 04:53 (twenty-one years ago)
Dirty Vicar, I think you're thinking of the Aurora and Tithonous story, in which the guy grows so oldto become a grasshopper? From some "goddess" website: Like the dawn, whom this goddess personifies, Aurora, also known as Eos, lives her life in brief encounters, outshone and obliterated by the majestic Helios, whose golden chariot she heralds each morning.
Her fleeting, but eternally recurring beauty, is expressed through her sad and ill-fated love affairs. Her most famous tragic affair of the heart is with her own husband, Tithonous. Tithonous was a mortal, one of the leaders of the Ethiopians in the Trojan War. Falling hopelessly in love with him, Aurora begged Zeus to make him immortal. Her wish was granted, and for a time the lovers were deliriously happy, bearing a son, Memnon. But soon Aurora recognised her fatal mistake. She had pleaded for immortality, but not for eternal youth. Poor Tithonous, as a lesson to us all perhaps, inexorably ages. When his first grey hairs appear, Aurora rejects his caresses, and as he ages more and more, she confines him to a single, closed room until his cries diminish, but never cease. The myth writers eventually took pity on him and turned him into a grasshopper. The sad story of Aurora and Tithonous is beautifully told in Tennyson's poem "Tithonous", and the message best conveyed by the single line, "And after many a summer dies the swan."
That was pretty mean of Zeus. So many of the Greek gods were just selfish bastards. Oh another candidate for this is Aurora's other lover Ganymede, a hot youth Zeus kidnapped/immortalized, turning him into his sex-slave-bitch and ambrosia-server-boi.
― Vic (Vic), Sunday, 7 December 2003 05:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― Leee Trevino (Leee), Sunday, 7 December 2003 07:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― MarkH (MarkH), Sunday, 7 December 2003 12:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 7 December 2003 13:03 (twenty-one years ago)
I could be misremembering this, though.
― caitlin (caitlin), Sunday, 7 December 2003 13:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 7 December 2003 13:34 (twenty-one years ago)
I'm almost certainly using Dracula, for instance, but not as a vampire. (This story originated in part because of a conversation about what worked about my vampire story, and how those notes could be hit without vampires, since the "vampire story" tag is keeping me from selling it.)
I'm really intrigued by the Nephites, and am going to have to read more about them.
― Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 7 December 2003 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― s1utsky (slutsky), Sunday, 7 December 2003 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 7 December 2003 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― s1utsky (slutsky), Sunday, 7 December 2003 18:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― s1utsky (slutsky), Sunday, 7 December 2003 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)
explain again? i'm probably alone but that made _no_ sense to me
― Vic (Vic), Sunday, 7 December 2003 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 7 December 2003 19:03 (twenty-one years ago)
It's always good to have a "shutoff switch" for a rampaging clay monster.
― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Monday, 8 December 2003 03:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Monday, 8 December 2003 03:09 (twenty-one years ago)
I am so disappointed that I am too young and female to create a golem.
― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Monday, 8 December 2003 03:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Monday, 8 December 2003 04:27 (twenty-one years ago)
http://golem.plush.org/
― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Monday, 8 December 2003 04:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― Vic (Vic), Monday, 8 December 2003 06:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― s1utsky (slutsky), Monday, 8 December 2003 07:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― Leee Trevino (Leee), Monday, 8 December 2003 08:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 8 December 2003 09:34 (twenty-one years ago)
Also Cain?
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 8 December 2003 10:46 (twenty-one years ago)
Either way, though -- good call. So's Indy :)
(I'm clearly now writing Indiana Jones vs. Daredevil in Golems-a-Go-Go!)
― Tep (ktepi), Monday, 8 December 2003 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 8 December 2003 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)