Have I been indoctrinated?

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The scare stories I've heard about illegal and excessive amounts of legal substances are coming back to haunt me. All the policemen/teachers/parent crap is now scaring me. My situation is, the only time I'm ever in good humour is when planning intoxication, or when I'm intoxicated. Other than that I want to be in my house and preferably in bed. Is it possible to become physically dependent on being drunk/stoned/whatever else? I don't know, perhaps I'm over-reacting but does alcohol have long term depression effects? Maybe I should re-consider my lifestyle........er who am I kidding I'll never do it. Er.....I need to hear sense right now.

Ronan, Wednesday, 10 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

yes it is possible to become physically dependant on alcohol/drugs. Yes, alcohol is a depressant. If you are biologically predispositioned to depression (the clicnical disease, not the mood) then you should be careful around alcohol.

Also, don't worry too much Ronan, you're still a student. It's natural. :)

Samantha, Wednesday, 10 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Is it possible to become physically dependent on being drunk/stoned/whatever else?

With alcohol, certainly -- not in the same way that heroin and other opiates function, but yes. Cf. the DTs (delirium tremens), among other things.

As for stoned/whatever else: Marijuana: I don't think so. LSD: no. Cocaine/crack: yes. Crank: yes. PCP: not sure. Barbituates: yes. Speed: yes. E: I don't think so. Heroin and its relatives: of course. GHB: don't know. Mushrooms: no. Ketamine: don't know.

does alcohol have long term depression effects?

Yes, it can certainly contribute to depression and other mood disorders, especially when repeatedly consumed to excess. Not to mention the brain damage that can result from moderate to severe intoxication.

Phil, Wednesday, 10 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

My situation is, the only time I'm ever in good humour is when planning intoxication, or when I'm intoxicated.

I hear and understand you. I think you need to ask yourself a few questions. Like "Is my partying interfering with my life/school/job?" "Is it damaging my physical or emotional health" "Do I value getting high above all else" I don't really want to be explicit about what kinds of things I do and have done, but I party a lot and have had to face some unpleasantness as a result; but I'm still doing it. I have an occaisonal Monday where I'm pretty bleary, but over the last few years I've managed to know just how much is too much. Yeah I wonder if I'm becoming dependant in a way; but I'm also having fun. I'm in no way saying "yeah man keep drinking and getting high! party on!", but I can't advise against it either because I think if you know what you're doing it isn't so bad. Yes, yes I know, how many junkies, how many people who ended up dead thought they knew what they were doing. Am I superior to them? No, maybe I have a better sense of balance, who knows.

If you'd rather be in bed than awake and sober, you may have some serious issues, and yes, if you're drunk or high all the time, coming down IS depressing. I know that if I do too much for too long a time, I'm gonna want to throw myself out a window I'll be so depressed. But it took me a while to find out just how much. And like I'm never gonna f*ck up again, right?

Ronan, you may just be upset for a moment, I don't know you and don't know. Try going for a couple weeks not doing any drink or drugs and see how you feel. Get a little exercise (this one may be hard, I know it is for me). Eat some healthy food. Do you feel better? Maybe you need to evaluate how much partying you're doing. But if you still want to stay in bed all day, maybe you should talk to someone professionally.

Good luck, in any case.

Sean, Wednesday, 10 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

useless advice but when i start worrying about this i stop drinking for for two weeks . If i can then i am not an addict.

anthony, Thursday, 11 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Bill Hicks - "They say marijuana takes away your initiative. Lie! You're still motivated to do stuff, you just don't see the fucking point! That's the difference!"

dave q, Thursday, 11 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah I like Bill Hicks. I won't be learning to play sitar though.

Sadly.

Ronan, Thursday, 11 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)


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