DJ Request Innovation

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In the Zodiac in Oxford on Saturday, the DJs had posted up all the songs they had on pieces of paper on the front of the booth, each with a number a la a Chinese restaurant menu. Pieces of paper, pens and a box were provided for ppl to make requests.

Is this system in operation elsewhere? And do you think its a good idea?

MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 15 December 2003 10:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Not a particularly catchy name is it?!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 15 December 2003 11:03 (twenty-two years ago)

They cant have had that many songs! What sort of night was it?

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 15 December 2003 11:04 (twenty-two years ago)

What do other DJs think of requests? It's SO hard not to find them annoying, espeically when drunk or coked-up fuckers won't take no for an answer and give you shit for ten minutes about not playing a Happy Mondays song you don't even have.

Most DJs I know have a pretty good idea of their playlist before they start DJing (proper dance DJs even more so, I'd guess), so should requests ever be positively discouraged?

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 15 December 2003 11:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I will always listen to requests but I won't always follow them even if I do have the track - the annoying thing is when someone is pestering you right as you're trying to mix (or 'crossfade' in club FT parlance).

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 15 December 2003 11:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I actually thought it was a very good system and would encourage ppl to introduce it elsewhere. As Markelby so rightly pointed out, it is annoying for the DJ to be pestered by ppl and even more so if they get truculent. But it is also disappointing to find out that the song you want to hear is not in the DJ's collection. And conversations with loud music in the background are difficult.

So really, everyone wins. If ppl scan the list and find that the music on offer is not to their taste they can always go elsewhere.

The DJs were on from 11.20 to 3 iirc, so that's quite a lot of songs. I think the downstairs band finished late anyway (11.20 instead of 11).

MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 15 December 2003 11:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Dance DJs often play them Mark! I think though this is cause e'd up people ask DJs to play their signature track, or "I Feel Love" or something they often play anyway.

At the weekend a mate came up and was telling me how much he really liked what I was playing and asking about stuff, and it was cool but I was trying to mix (or crossfade in DJ Ronan parlance).

I wonder if dance DJs have any idea of their playlist, I guess the playlist=the records you put in your bag.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 15 December 2003 11:12 (twenty-two years ago)

A certain DJ by the name of Kev told me the other day he was once asked if he could play something funky. He was playing James Brown at the time. But I'm sure I'd heard this story before and it's almost like an 'urban myth' in DJ land.

stevem (blueski), Monday, 15 December 2003 11:12 (twenty-two years ago)

It depends on the situation, really. I try to be nice and only request songs which are within the general realm of what's being played - I mean, white shoe girls who drunkenly request Christina Aguilera songs at a staunchly indie night should be hunted down and killed.

Sometimes, really, it's just an excuse to talk to the DJ. Especially if the DJ is consistently playing good stuff.

However, NO ONE at the last Freaky Trigger night having Boney M... that was an abomination!!! Call yourself DJ's? You should have your hands chopped off!

HRH Queen Kate (kate), Monday, 15 December 2003 11:15 (twenty-two years ago)

kate you can't have both Boney M AND Sisters Of Mercy - the spacetime continuum would collapse

i remember reading in Muzik that Francois Kervorkian did a request set once - i think the theme must have been classics as i imagine it would've been difficult otherwise

stevem (blueski), Monday, 15 December 2003 11:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Does the funk stop being funky when you've heard it A THOUSAND BILLION TIMES????

X-post - I'd happily play Christina Aguilera at an indie night, but maybe my purist indie DJ days are over (though really they never begun - even in the heady surge of britpop I was always throwing in hip hop, Madonna etc.).

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 15 December 2003 11:18 (twenty-two years ago)

on a related note, are you all stationary behind the decks when playing?

I was accused of not keeping my cool on Saturday as I danced and wiggled my ass behind the decks more than I did at any stage while anyone else was playing.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 15 December 2003 11:20 (twenty-two years ago)

kate you can't have both Boney M AND Sisters Of Mercy - the spacetime continuum would collapse

Yes, that's why it HAS TO HAPPEN!!! Creation will be unmade, the name of god recited backwards, etc. etc.

I used to dance behind the decks back when I DJ'd. I used to try not to, but it was really hard not to. Then I'd look up and see a row of indie boys watching me and feel really self conscious and embarrassed me.

HRH Queen Kate (kate), Monday, 15 December 2003 11:21 (twenty-two years ago)

dancing while DJing is good, the indie boys were probably more embarassed than you, what with you probably imagining them all in their underwear etc.

stevem (blueski), Monday, 15 December 2003 11:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Who said anything about underwear? Rowr!

(I shouldn't joke. I met Hilton while DJ-ing.)

HRH Queen Kate (kate), Monday, 15 December 2003 11:30 (twenty-two years ago)

yes it's a good way to pull meet interesting people, but i have only DJ'd about 5 times this year, bah

stevem (blueski), Monday, 15 December 2003 11:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Talking to DJs to say what they've been playing is great - CLASSIC!!! It really makes me feel happy if that happens, much more so actually than someone saying they like some writing of mine - it's more like the feeling you get when you've bought someone a present and they really love it, but even better cos you have to say you like presents and there's nothing compulsory about complimenting the DJ.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 15 December 2003 11:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I DJed for the first time on Saturday, making it all up as I went along but the assembled throng of foxy Polish girls were going mad for Dizzee and Kelis and Outkast and friends. Then I put on Good Luck and several people put there hands over their ears and shouted at me to stop. :(

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 15 December 2003 12:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I managed to clear the floor with Good Luck a couple of months back. Odd.

Ricardo (RickyT), Monday, 15 December 2003 12:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Matt, forgive my bluntness, but did you get pussy?

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 15 December 2003 12:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Euw!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 15 December 2003 12:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Pinky, forgive my bluntness too.

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 15 December 2003 12:59 (twenty-two years ago)

hmm!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 15 December 2003 12:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I have once been so annoyed by a persistent requester that I have pulled the offending record out of my bag and snapped it in front of him. Haha.

I hate requests when i am DJ-ing. You want to listen to what you want to listen, listen to it at home. Equally if I fuck up, don't dance and I'll soon get the message (Club FT not relevant here). I never have a set list before I go to the club either. I suppose it is why I like tag-team DJ-ing so much.

Pete (Pete), Monday, 15 December 2003 13:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha, no - I think Felix, Simon and Lisa put paid to that. It was like I'd just dropped a gigantic musical fart in the centre of the room. I had to contend myself with a consolatory "I can see you were trying your best".

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 15 December 2003 13:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I wouldn't worry Matt, at least you had a floor to clear. Nobody turned up for our night, we made a tenner each. It's impossible to start a night in Dublin, I can't wait to be in London where it is slightly easier at least in terms of passing trade.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 15 December 2003 13:03 (twenty-two years ago)

"trade"?

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 15 December 2003 13:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Arf!

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 15 December 2003 13:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Trade in the sense that numbers=cash unless you're playing for a really tight bar surely?

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 15 December 2003 13:06 (twenty-two years ago)

"really tight"?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 15 December 2003 13:06 (twenty-two years ago)

on this thread i sed:

i deejayed a party last nite on Staten Island for what turned out to be mostly uptight people and about 20 firemen.... i played a mashup of "Short Dick Man" that used the bassline from "Groove is in hte Heart", it really got the floor moving, and the next song the person whose house it was comes up and goes "this might be a weird question but do you have 'Groove is in the Heart' by Dee-Lite??" which was cute and kind of cool, deffo better than the person who came up during "Here Comes the Night" (CHEERS DAVE Q) (a Beach Boys disco epic from 1980) and goes "umm everyone here is in their 30s, kind of OLDER...." and she's sort of struggling for the next thing to say so i reply "older than disco??" ha ha go back to your canapes, bitch

DJs: piano-dropping moments

"talkin to the DJ when he's tryin to mix / and you fuck it up good and proper!!" - dj frenchbloke and son

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 15 December 2003 13:18 (twenty-two years ago)

You can actually get cash for numbers of people who come to a bar when you're DJ-ing? (Unless of course they're taking money on the door, and very few people will pay for DJ-only clubs.) Heck, in London, I know bars that CHARGE THE DJ/promoter if they don't do enough business on the bar!

HRH Queen Kate (kate), Monday, 15 December 2003 13:32 (twenty-two years ago)

"very few people will pay for DJ-only clubs"

??

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 15 December 2003 13:39 (twenty-two years ago)

On an indie level, they won't. Sure, if you're going to Turnmills or whatever, but starting your own club - ask Ed and Ambrose and company about the sort of shit that goes on.

HRH Queen Kate (kate), Monday, 15 December 2003 13:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, and BTW, I don't mean "indie" as in "indie music" - I mean it, as in Independant Promoter.

HRH Queen Kate (kate), Monday, 15 December 2003 13:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Kate is right (ish) people pay more for a venue that a few blokes and decks in the back room of a pub. There are thirty pubs in London doing that EVERY NIGHT free in.

Pete (Pete), Monday, 15 December 2003 14:04 (twenty-two years ago)

well there goes my plan

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 15 December 2003 14:11 (twenty-two years ago)

The place I was in on Friday had a sign on the DJ booth "Requests By E-Mail Only". A good policy, I feel.

Lynskey (Lynskey), Monday, 15 December 2003 15:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Steve, that "Kev story" happened to a mate a year ago. When I went on after him, I got asked for pop while playing my fave no. 1 of 2002 'Dirrty'. The compensation was that a lot of the attractive girls (the only ones actually) were genuinely lezzed-up.

Ronan, "easier"? Well, man, I'm lame! I'm going back to Manc...mind you, last house party I played there, no one would dance, even though everyone headnodded to it all (Sugababes, DFA,Jaxx, G-Swing, Mylo, Richard X, Cut Copy, Nona Hendryx etc). My unmixed chill set was great tho (Manhead, Lemon Jelly, Avalanches, Michael J, Stevie Nicks, Minotaur Shock etc).

As for requests, while playing the opener at a semi-popular student night a year ago, with a musical mandate for funk, hip hop, and 80s/90s dance classics, though increasingly updated with chinstroke-dance and instro-hip hop, courtesy of my close friend who was following me, I got asked for 'Buil Me Up Buttercup' by some pissed-up girl. For some reason, I said "yeah, sure" instead of something perverse.

Barima (Barima), Monday, 15 December 2003 17:51 (twenty-two years ago)


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