mapoleon and stalin

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How is Napoleon from animal farm like Joseph stalin and what are the chasrecteristics that show they are a like???

― Richelle Weister, Tuesday, 16 December 2003 18:57 (twenty-one years ago)

they're both pisces

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

the incident where napoleon tries to fly a kite but it keeps getting caught in the tree - that happened to stalin in real life

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Stalin also liked to roll around in his own poop.

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Mapolean, Dapolean, and their sweet son Na.

― pete s, Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)

my chasrecteristics are kinda itchy today, thank you for asking

― Wintermuté (Wintermute), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:04 (twenty-one years ago)

They were truly, madly, deeply in love.

― luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

don't forget that Snowball = http://www.newgenevacenter.org/portrait/lennon.jpg

― Wintermuté (Wintermute), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

is that Marshall Crenshaw?

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

What?

― Ajamuté (Wintermute), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

don't forget that Snowball =

But wait--isn't he supposed to be Trotsky? Or is he both? The Old Major is Marx I think ...

― brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)

templeton the rat is trotsky

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Does that makes Nicodemus Kerensky?

― brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)

yes!

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm stumped on Mrs. Frisbie ... um, the 'benign' face of British intelligence?

― brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)

frisbie = philby!

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)

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do you have any other info I have a 5 paragraph essay due tomorrow and I need more info

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

i was thinking reilly, but that's even better

― brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

mapoleon also drove the moops out of spain

― brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

also in animal farm napoleon is constantly doing crossword puzzles and exclaiming 'that one was a real puzzler!' when he finishes them - this was a well known habit of stalin's.

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

he, who wore a red scarf / to remind him of his fiancee

― brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

five paragraphs?

haha.

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 22:13 (twenty-one years ago)

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Subject: Re: ilXor.com: mapoleon and stalin
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:09:16 -0500

What's so funny I have writing...I hate school I just want to get out get my business degree and start my own business.

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 09:43 (twenty-one years ago)

So she's in college??? That's even worse...

― Prude (Prude), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 10:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Best discussion of 'Animal Farm' in Martin Amis' 'Money'. Why did Orwell name an allegorical cipher for one post-revolutionary dictator after another post-revolutionary dictator?

― Enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 10:15 (twenty-one years ago)

There were no dictators in Napoleon's time, just kings/kaisers/czars.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 10:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Erm -- Except for Napoleon, who wasn't any of those things. 'Dictator' is a nonce-word anyway, so I'm free to use it for him.

― Enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 10:25 (twenty-one years ago)

A nonce-word? Surely that would necessitate a slightly different spelling of 'dictator'

― pete s, Wednesday, 17 December 2003 10:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Napoleon was a kaiser (or whatever the French word for that is), wasn't he?

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 10:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Just because he wasn't born king doesn't make him a dictator.

What I'm trying to say is, you shouldn't use words such as "dictator" anachronistically. How people defined a king/kaiser back then is very different from how we define a dictator nowadays.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 10:54 (twenty-one years ago)

"Empereur" seems to be the French word for it. Don't see why we should need to use the French word, though.

― man, Wednesday, 17 December 2003 10:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Napoleon was a kaiser (or whatever the French word for that is), wasn't he?

No. Kaiser=King=Czar=Caesar (word it's orginally derived from). All of these are passed down the family line. The French revolution ended this system in France and, after ten years, you had Napoleon running things as a liberal dictatorship (hah!) which, oddly, turned hereditory when he started installing his family as rulers in Italy, Austria, etc. Dictator is too vague a term -- who would you apply it to? It applies as much to non-democratically elected Stalin as it does to democratically-elected Hitler. But the word fits Napoleon better than 'King' since his whole schtick was about getting rid of kings.

― Enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 11:01 (twenty-one years ago)

(Think we've generated five paragraphs by now?)

― Prude (Prude), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 11:09 (twenty-one years ago)

best mapoleons: James Tolkan vs The Dude From the First "Bill & Ted"

― El Santo Claus (Kingfish), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Napolean was labelled a tyrant in his own lifetime. That's from the Greek tyrannos meaning roughly the same thing we would understand as dictator. Political and social thought in Napolean's time was advanced enough to propose that democracy (partial or full versions of) was preferable to auocratic rule, so ppl could and did refer to him that way with derogatory connotations.
Sory that's enough of that.

― pete s, Wednesday, 17 December 2003 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)

'autocratic rule' fuck!

― pete s, Wednesday, 17 December 2003 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Napolean played a role in the Count of Monte Cristo. Therefore, he is cooler than Norah Jones and Tori Amos put together.

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

eat the pig eat the pig ziggy ziggy ziggy pig

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I bet Napolean could kick Norah Jones' ass and she just won several Grammys!
if you don't think so go and eat chicken mcnuggets

― pete s, Wednesday, 17 December 2003 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

http://imageshack.us/files/MARISSA.jpg

― El Santo Claus (Kingfish), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)

you are sick and you need help

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 16:14 (twenty-one years ago)

just wait til i find the other one they put up...

― El Santo Claus (Kingfish), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

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