S/D Tie Knots

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The four-in-hand/half-windsor is my standby but I am beginning to hate it. Suggest alternatives, favorites, tips and tricks. I desire to learn the Full Windsor but I fear I may not be up to it.

― TOMBOT, Friday, 19 December 2003 14:07 (twenty-one years ago)

The full windsor is the knot for cads and spies apparently.

I want to be able to do the Italian footballer knot

― chris (chris), Friday, 19 December 2003 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Cads and spies, that'd be me then. What is this Italian footballer knot? I am intrigued.

― TOMBOT, Friday, 19 December 2003 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Mathematical theory of tie knots

― Ricardo (RickyT), Friday, 19 December 2003 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)

haha it is telling that that link is already purple on my browser, Ricardo

― TOMBOT, Friday, 19 December 2003 14:21 (twenty-one years ago)

OK every single one of those diagrams on that webpage resulted in the same exact end picture, WTF? When my boss is being lazy he just kind of wraps the tie around himself and then folds it under, kind of like a scarf fucking an ascot. it's a good look. Makes you look drunk and crazy. Go for that one?

― Allyzay, Friday, 19 December 2003 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't find a picture of the Italian footballer knot anywhere :o(

basically the knot is HuuUUUUUUUGGGEEEEE

― chris (chris), Friday, 19 December 2003 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)

haha yeah they should have some tie knots that result in something different, like the thin end sticking out below the fat end, oh wait

― TOMBOT, Friday, 19 December 2003 14:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Well when someone says they want to tie their tie "differently" I hold out hope that that means, for example, tying it around their head bandanna-style. Men must be really bored with their fashion because I couldn't imagine turning around and being all like, "Ladies, I need to find a new way to put on my eyeliner. Mind you, it has to look EXACTLY THE SAME as the current way."

― Allyzay, Friday, 19 December 2003 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

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No, they're different Ally, because in one instance, you end up with a stripey tie instead of a blue one.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 19 December 2003 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh shit, you're right. OK then, carry on.

If I was a boy, I'd wear my tie in a big frilly Christmas present bow, for the holidays you see.

― Allyzay, Friday, 19 December 2003 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Fucked up, I definitely did the four-in-hand this morning and my tie has stripes on it. Shit.

― TOMBOT, Friday, 19 December 2003 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm a Full Windsor man myself, but many ties are not up to it as they need to be ever so slightly longer. The best tie I have for it is one from Gieves & Hawkes which you simply can't tie any other way.

The one I'd like to experiment with is the Aristotle Onassis (Four-In-Hand, but without the final tuckthough) but I suspect you can only wear that with a square end wool tie.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 19 December 2003 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I use the four in hand mainly, all of the others result in a too short tie with the ties I have.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 19 December 2003 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I use the one where the bunny goes through the hole.

― NA (Nick A.), Friday, 19 December 2003 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

my problem with the four-in-hand is that I have never been able to get the knot from twisting ever so slightly to the left (the thin side) and it tends to get worse as the day goes on, resulting in a constant need for adjustment. I am basically looking for some new method that will put an end to this and make for a neater triangle shape.

― TOMBOT, Friday, 19 December 2003 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

half-Windsor takes care of that, I think. I actually like a four-in-hand knot but the twisting is annoying. anyone have any tips on keeping it from going sideways?

― Bryan (Bryan), Friday, 19 December 2003 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

The four in hand does twist, but I must have a long torso or like my tie too long because the other knots don't give me enough dangle in the thick and thin pointy bits.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 19 December 2003 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

This thread makes me want to wear a tie. Unfortunately as I am currently jobless wearing a tie would just make me look emo.

― adam (adam), Friday, 19 December 2003 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I know that I have a VERY long torso which is often a problem, the Full Windsor is probably out of the running then. So much for the spy/cad steelo, I will go back to doing more half-windsor knots perhaps but I believe the muscle memory is gone, maybe over the holidays I can get some practice in.

― TOMBOT, Friday, 19 December 2003 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)

There are plenty of tie which would make you look far from emo.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 19 December 2003 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha I am not adverse to this holiday tie practicing at all. Just in case anyone was interested

― Allyzay, Friday, 19 December 2003 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)

you can buy extra long ties from the big and tall shop.

― teeny (teeny), Friday, 19 December 2003 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmm, They have to have some good prints, before I'd consider it.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 19 December 2003 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)

The weird thing about ties in L.A. is that only salesman wear them. I would love to practice more but I only went to two weddings this year.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 19 December 2003 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

what's a 'good print'? I have an irrational hatred for novelty ties; I know reasonable people wear them, but it really makes me want to KILL when I see a looney tunes character on a tie.

― teeny (teeny), Friday, 19 December 2003 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

My best tie is a Pucci print one I got in the Liberty sale just before my cousin's weding this summer.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 19 December 2003 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I approve!

― teeny (teeny), Friday, 19 December 2003 18:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I have general disdain for flat printed ties or any tie with a recognizable image on it. Good ties have texture to them, I go for conservative patterns, also silver shiny thread is u+k.

Yellow ties are so dud, oh my god, when I see a guy with a yellow tie I want to ask him how he lives with himself, holy crap. Most green ties can also eat shit.

― TOMBOT, Friday, 19 December 2003 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Flat silk prints are where it's at.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 19 December 2003 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm four-in-the-hand and half-windsor only, but I'm not proficient enough so it takes me at least half an hour to get it right.

http://www.med-psych.net/doctor-gifts/infectious-ties.html

― Dale the Titled (cprek), Friday, 19 December 2003 19:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Someone in my office is wearing a holiday tie today. It's kind of...strange.

― Allyzay, Friday, 19 December 2003 19:12 (twenty-one years ago)

four years pass...

http://www.weblogcartoons.com/cartoons/tie.gif

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 23:26 (seventeen years ago)

"perfect every time"

― Kerm, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 23:27 (seventeen years ago)

half windsor or death

― HI DERE, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 23:32 (seventeen years ago)

half windsor or death

This is the choice. A half windsor achieves symmetry, stability, and a good sized not, while avoiding making your head look any bigger - I already wear a size 8 in hats, so I need all the help I can get in avoiding the appearance of an even larger dome.

― B.L.A.M., Tuesday, 15 January 2008 23:45 (seventeen years ago)

i can't remember the name of the one i use. the easiest one.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 23:52 (seventeen years ago)

It's called "the pussy-ass knot".

― HI DERE, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 23:59 (seventeen years ago)

yeah, that one!

― Jordan, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 00:04 (seventeen years ago)

"clip on"

― Kerm, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 00:10 (seventeen years ago)

no, wait:
http://i10.tinypic.com/8f9yvbo.jpg

― Kerm, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 00:12 (seventeen years ago)

OMG questions like this, they make me wish I was a man. We had some book in my family bookshelf called A Man's Life that had all this advice on general life stuff w/kind of a GQ bent. And there were like 4 chapters on mens' dress, so now I have this kind of passion for what is Good and Right in the world of formal men's clothing. (Answer: half-windsor, obv.)(Notable fact: my dad tore out the pages that explained "how to give women orgasms every time.")

― Abbott, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 02:07 (seventeen years ago)

That is only awesome if he taped them to his bedroom ceiling.

― HI DERE, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 02:26 (seventeen years ago)

HI DERE = costello

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 02:27 (seventeen years ago)

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