Anybody see Louis Theroux versus the Nazis yesterday?

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Quite an incredible programme actually. I was scared for his life at points - especially when he visited that skinhead family.
Some of it was so messed up I found myself laughing and then feeling bad about it. Like the eleven-year old girls singing white-power songs at a skinhead festival with all these people seig-heiling them. All a bit too much.

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 22 December 2003 12:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Shit, I forgot it.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 22 December 2003 12:24 (twenty-one years ago)

MUST SEE

stevem (blueski), Monday, 22 December 2003 12:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh my god this was awful. That whole part where he was declining to answer whether or not he was Jewish was terrifying. I could not believe that woman teaching her daughters those songs. Surely that must be classed as child abuse!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 22 December 2003 12:28 (twenty-one years ago)

We watched it yesterday. It was just so eerie. Esp the children being brainwashed was terrible to see. The old man was in a way extremely sad.

nathalie (nathalie), Monday, 22 December 2003 12:30 (twenty-one years ago)

The little girls in the recording studio freaked me out, I just couldn't believe it!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 22 December 2003 12:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Which county and area was this in?

Fulton (Fulton), Monday, 22 December 2003 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)

It was in the US, but not sure where abouts.

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 22 December 2003 12:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Classic bit:
Louis: Why are you against a white girl going out with a black guy?
Nazi bloke: Black people are ugly.

I mean, this is supposed to be one of the most dangerous racists in the USA and he comes up with something so wayward as that. That guy was a total clown. It all started coming together in the end, the way a lot of people were bending over backwards to support him and couldn't say a word against him - not sure what was going on there.

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 22 December 2003 12:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I know, that was so funny, esp the bit about him being better looking than Denzel Washington!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 22 December 2003 12:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't quite get what the point is in putting these ppl in front of the TV ONE MORE TIME: we know these ppl are pathetic and so on.

when the mother was playing that punk sounding nazi band in the car I wanted louis to tell her that rock music was invented by black ppl and what she thought of that.

I kept switching between this prog and top 50 villains and heroes thing on C4.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 22 December 2003 13:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it just hits home the message that ppl like this really do exist & unfortunately are contricuting to a whole new generation of racists. Although I would like to see the follow up docu of the twin girls when they realise their mother is an asshat!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 22 December 2003 13:04 (twenty-one years ago)

we know these ppl exist. I think the girls will end up like her mother.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 22 December 2003 13:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm quite glad I missed this. All my christmas cheer would have disappeared down the panhole.

Johnney B (Johnney B), Monday, 22 December 2003 13:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Those girls obviously had no clue of the implications of those songs. I'm sure one of them pronounced it "Zimbabwe" as "Zimbroadway".

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 22 December 2003 13:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Was it Loius Theroux in some previous porgramme (IIRC the one about survivalists) where he was interviewing some guy from the american n4zi party or s.th and he finds out the guy is a big fan of "are you being served" (!!) and he tries to get him to do the john inman "I'm free" thing, and he won't do it, until eventually he snaps and say something like "i'm NOT free, b/c the jews own america" or s.th. like that? I think ridicule is the best weapon against such people. If people are laughing at them, they probably won't want to join them.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 22 December 2003 13:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Obv I didn't see this b/c I haven't got a tv, but it's one of the few things recently that mas#de me wish I did have one.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 22 December 2003 13:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Well Julio, I was still surprised to see very typical (in appearance only) american women bringing up their kids like this. Yeah that was a surprise to me of course! the old fella wasn't obv.

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 22 December 2003 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)

um, how abt making the 'N4zi' word google safe on this thread?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 22 December 2003 13:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Was this all set in the same town/village or something? Or was it a broader scope across parts of America?

xpost - why Julio ?

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 22 December 2003 13:20 (twenty-one years ago)

the program was set in california as i recall.

oh I just wondered whether someone googling the N-word would come across this thread maybe. sorry maybe I'm wrong here.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 22 December 2003 13:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I suspect the n-word has so many hits on google that it won't matter. (I'm just paranoid myself, and habitually do this on any contentious term)

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 22 December 2003 13:24 (twenty-one years ago)

ok. just wondering.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 22 December 2003 13:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I found it quite surprising. Maybe I'm very naive, or maybe it's because there are different strands of racism running in the UK, but I found this shocking in a freakshow kind of way. It was surprising how unashamed these people were of their racism - it was so out in the open. This show was a real reminder that there are some extremely fucked up people with a lot of power out there.

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 22 December 2003 13:30 (twenty-one years ago)

They didn't seem very powerful to me. the old guy was a TV repairman and he was taking a TV from another person from peru. the open racism was all he had.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 22 December 2003 13:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Dog latin is otm definitely.

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 22 December 2003 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't believe he was a real tv repairman. The Peruvian guy looked far too nervous and was kissing the skinh3ds arse while the guy went round the back. He also live in too nice a home to be a tv repairman. There was definitely something else going on there.

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 22 December 2003 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I still doubt as to how powerful he is. ok def something going on but open racism didn't shock me.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 22 December 2003 13:48 (twenty-one years ago)

The best bit was that when the mother of the two singing girls said "Oh, sure they know what they're sining about, they're not too young for politics", and then Louis asked the kids what the ANC stands for and the Eldest one got stuck after 'A' for 'African', only got 'N' for 'National' with prompting from her mother and completely blew it on 'C'.

And surely we all know Louis does this for kicks by now? Saying that the bald guy Tom is one of the world's most powerful racists is like saying that Neil and Christine Hamilton are two of the world's most powerful politicians.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Monday, 22 December 2003 13:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe you have seen it more, but it definitely was new to me.

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 22 December 2003 13:51 (twenty-one years ago)

And surely we all know Louis does this for kicks by now? Saying that the bald guy Tom is one of the world's most powerful racists is like saying that Neil and Christine Hamilton are two of the world's most powerful politicians.

Okay, maybe that was hyperbole, but he was considerably influential in his area. His lawyer was really sweating for an answer right near the end when asked if he agreed with a racist magazine.

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 22 December 2003 13:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I couldn't decide whether his manager was in agreement with it or not. I am assuing yes otherwise you would be so sickened by it you couldn't have worked with the old guy!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 22 December 2003 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)

It was surprising how unashamed these people were of their racism - it was so out in the open.
Why does that surprise you? Sadly these people think that *they* are right and should instill their views in others.

nathalie (nathalie), Monday, 22 December 2003 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I think there was a subtext of he HAD to be inagreement with Tom in order to save his bum from some legal stuff going a few years back.

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 22 December 2003 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Why does that surprise you? Sadly these people think that *they* are right and should instill their views in others.

I guess I shouldn't be shocked, but I am.

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 22 December 2003 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Was this Tom Metzger??

Why the hell don't they show this stuff in the US?

Kerry (dymaxia), Monday, 22 December 2003 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

yeh - tom metzger.

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 22 December 2003 15:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Was it that little town in Idaho? Coer d'Leane or however the hell it's spelled?

andy, Monday, 22 December 2003 18:13 (twenty-one years ago)

two years pass...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1734676,00.html

Louis Theroux returns to BBC2 for new series

Owen Gibson, media correspondent
Monday March 20, 2006

The man who got closer than he may have liked to Christine Hamilton, under the skin of Jimmy Savile and on the nerves of Max Clifford while pioneering a revealing, gently mocking form of fly on the wall documentary, is to return to the BBC.

Louis Theroux has signed a deal to make a new series for BBC2, where he first appeared onscreen in 1994 in Michael Moore's TV Nation. He will make 10 60-minute films over the next three years. Having taken a break from television to write a book, The Call of the Weird: Travels in American Subcultures, he said he planned to return to the medium where he made his name. "As a student of bizarre organisations and eccentric people, the BBC feels like my natural home," he said.

The book was based on his original Weird Weekend series, which featured him as an innocent abroad in a variety of US subcultures, including UFO hunters, porn actors, white supremacists, gangsta rappers and professional wrestlers. For the follow up he returned to the UK and carved out a niche following peculiarly British celebrities, including Paul Daniels, Keith Harris, boxer Chris Eubank and MP Ann Widdecombe. During his Hamiltons documentary he was caught up in a media storm when the former Tory MP and his wife were falsely accused of sexual assault.

Roly Keating, BBC2 controller, said Theroux was "one of the most influential and unique voices in modern TV". He added: "His acute eye and wicked sense of humour have been away for too long."

Neil Hamilton said his appeal lay in his straightforward manner. "What you see is what you get. He started out wanting to make a programme about us and we wanted to make a programme about him. Events rather took over," he said.

The programmes helped him win Bafta awards in 2001 and 2002 for best presenter.

The commissions will be overseen by Nick Mirsky, the man behind BBC2's hit The Armstrongs, which features the toe curling exploits of the husband and wife management team of a double glazing firm.

Ozbash (stickthrower), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 23:43 (nineteen years ago)

Hooray! Best news ever!

The Equator Lounge (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 01:36 (nineteen years ago)


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