"Wizard of Id" Anachronisms..

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It's one thing to feature Christianity in a strip titled "B.C.", but Jonny Hart is really starting to flaunt his apathy toward staying within the confines of his comic strip plots.

Here is today's "Wizard of Id" :
http://www.comics.com/creators/wizardofid/archive/images/wizardofid2030497031223.gif

HOW IN THE HELL IS THIS A MEDEVAL CARTOON? HOW??

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)

And it's not funny any more. At all.

― Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, yeah. That too.

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Did she recive the present or buy it?

― Aja (aja), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:50 (twenty-one years ago)

where have the woman's glasses and the sale table gone, in the last panel?

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:52 (twenty-one years ago)

The sale table I can see why it might be gone, but you're right. Where are her glasses?!

― Aja (aja), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:54 (twenty-one years ago)

It's not funny "anymore"?

― spittle (spittle), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)

You can't smile while wearign glasses!

― Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)

er, 'wearing'

― Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)

give me one reason why the sale table would be gone, what?

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:57 (twenty-one years ago)

They should have put the clerk in one of the head & hands stockade things. Then it would've been medieval AND funny.

― andy, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Are you sure that's "Wizard of Id"? I don't recognize the characters, it says "Parker" in the corner... I don't know, man...

― andy, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

See, everyone else is in such a hurry to BUY Christmas presents that the sale table was picked clean by customers and dismantled by other employees in the brief time it took the old woman and the saleslady to have their little dialogue. It is ingenious attention to subtle details like this which separate THE WIZARD OF ID from THE BUCKETS.

― jewelly (jewelly), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not crazy. This is WOI's homepage. Brant Parker writes the strip and Jonny Hart draws it. Or vice-versa. I can't ever remember.

(If it's after 12/23 in the U.S. when you read this, you may have to click on that date inside the little calendar.)

ANd wow. Those cash register buttons got big in the last panel.

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I think, during the second panel, the returning woman must have sold her glasses to one of the other customers.

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 01:06 (twenty-one years ago)

That's just stupid.

― jewelly (jewelly), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 01:07 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe she doesn't even realise they've gone; her hair is pretty ruffled.

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 01:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey, speaking of comics, anyone seen Berke Breathed's new Sunday OPUS? Has there been a thread on that yet? Is it any good? I understand he's not posting it anywhere on the internet so folks are forced to nag their newspaper editors into running it. Mine doesn't yet and I'm too polite to nag.

― jewelly (jewelly), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 01:09 (twenty-one years ago)

b-b-b-but the wizard of id had my favourite joke ever when i was 10:

guard: oh no! the peasants are revolting!
king (snidely): I'll say!

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 01:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Mine eyes detected a URL on the bottom of the strip:
http://www.Creators.com/

Navigate to the new, color Wizard of Id and you'll find it's quite medieval... there is, however, an appearance by Santa Claus, a vaguely Lappish entity devised in the 19th Century. He's all over the place.

― andy, Wednesday, 24 December 2003 01:26 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.jovialfools.com/chip/comics/change.jpg

― Aja (aja), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 01:27 (twenty-one years ago)

give me one reason why the sale table would be gone, what?

The panel is smaller.

― Aja (aja), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 01:35 (twenty-one years ago)

what?

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 01:36 (twenty-one years ago)

The first panel is larger than the last one.

― Aja (aja), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 01:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't understand, sorry.

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 01:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey, why are the corners on the counter in the last panel curved.

― Aja (aja), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 01:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't understand, sorry.

How can you not understand? The first picture is larger than the last one.

― Aja (aja), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 01:41 (twenty-one years ago)

what?

― Dan I., Thursday, 25 December 2003 08:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Are you people stupid?

― Aja (aja), Thursday, 25 December 2003 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I understand, Aja.

― Carey (Carey), Thursday, 25 December 2003 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Do you?

― Aja (aja), Thursday, 25 December 2003 16:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes.

― Carey (Carey), Thursday, 25 December 2003 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Then can you tell everyone else what I mean?

― Aja (aja), Thursday, 25 December 2003 16:39 (twenty-one years ago)

You did a good enough job of explaining it. Just be happy that you are smarter than RJG.

― Carey (Carey), Thursday, 25 December 2003 16:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Really?

― Aja (aja), Thursday, 25 December 2003 16:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Really. Merry Chrismukkah.

― Carey (Carey), Thursday, 25 December 2003 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Also the last picture is closer up to the people, so the sale panle gets cut off.

― Aja (aja), Thursday, 25 December 2003 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Merry Christmas to you too.

― Aja (aja), Thursday, 25 December 2003 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)

and the first panel is from a slightly angled perspective.

― Carey (Carey), Thursday, 25 December 2003 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

That too.

What did you get for Christmas?

― Aja (aja), Thursday, 25 December 2003 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

the view, in the last panel, may be at a slightly higher angle. so what?

look at the first panel and notice how the right edge of the sale table is level with the left edge of the cash desk.

merry xmas, morans.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 25 December 2003 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

the higher angle would mean that the wall line, behind the cash desk, would be higher, though, instead of, as it has been drawn, lower.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 25 December 2003 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Who cares about this any more! Let's forget about it!

Merry Christmas!

― Aja (aja), Thursday, 25 December 2003 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

merry xmas.

I am smarter than you and carey combined, though.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 25 December 2003 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm only 12 so I've got time to get smarter.

Besides, I'm the smartest one in my grade any way. Better to be smarter than people you know than people you don't.

― Aja (aja), Thursday, 25 December 2003 18:13 (twenty-one years ago)

What?

― Dan I., Thursday, 25 December 2003 22:19 (twenty-one years ago)

this thread is the best gift ilx could have given me.

― dyson (dyson), Friday, 26 December 2003 00:15 (twenty-one years ago)

That's pretty sad.

― NA (Nick A.), Friday, 26 December 2003 02:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I might agree with dyson if there weren't 563 other threads that have followed the same path.

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 26 December 2003 04:16 (twenty-one years ago)

i realize that.
this thread is brilliant for just that reason, the outright banality of it; the complete and utter stupidness of this thread - it's the definition of ilx.
christmas can get me down & this was just what i needed today. i mean - analyzing the roundness of the desk corners in a fucking wizard of id cartoon. scrolling through this was enough to make me hang my head and chuckle.
and now i sit here typing up my defense/philosophy on the subject.
ilx is a vortex of my time & if i didn't have the flu i'd be drinking somewhere; but instead - here i am.

― dyson (dyson), Friday, 26 December 2003 05:13 (twenty-one years ago)

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http://www.adclassix.com/images62drpepper.jpg

There's another one of these out there featuring Fat Broad making a man trap.

― C. Grisso/McCain, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 21:11 (eighteen years ago)

Man, you could write whole multi-volume masters theses on just the ellipses in that old Dr Pepper slogan. It amazes me in every way:

It's different ... I like it!

― nabisco, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.edarts.net/flights/dimpdw1.jpg

― dmr, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 21:17 (eighteen years ago)

Shortly after Reg Smythe died, a campaign was started to have a statue of Andy Capp erected in his, and Reginald's home town, Hartlepool, as a commemorative gesture. However, no local businesses could be found to sponsor the venture, as it was deemed the cartoon was too politically incorrect, and perpetuated a negative stereotype of the northeast. Campaigns are still trying to get the statue of the character erected to this day but public opinion is still split.

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

they can put that statue in my apartment

― ghost rider, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

Man, you could write whole multi-volume masters theses on just the ellipses in that old Dr Pepper slogan. It amazes me in every way:

It's different ... I like it!

Nabisco, those are three periods. This is an ellipses…

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 21:26 (eighteen years ago)

i challenge everyone to read a month's worth of Andy Capp

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

No, dude, that's just failed pedantry on your part!

(If you wanted to catch me on something you should have gone with my using the plural ellipses when referring to just one ellipsis.)

― nabisco, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 21:30 (eighteen years ago)

ellipses. . .have. . .to. . .have. . .spaces. . .between them. . .I think is what. . .he is. . .saying?

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 21:32 (eighteen years ago)

(I.e., if you're trying to say it's only ellipsis at the end of a sentence, you're just plain wrong -- its original association was with omitted material, and its use for dialogue pauses and "trailing off" came after, with the "trailing off" convention probably being newest.)

(Mr. Que, I think all sane people can agree that the use or non-use of spaces with ellipses is pretty much a matter of house typographical style. I always add spaces with quoting -- and preserve terminal punctuation periods -- because, you know, Chicago style. Dr Pepper slogans, not so much.)

― nabisco, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

oh okay whoops. i thought the spaces between the ellipses was mandatory.

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 21:38 (eighteen years ago)

woah i must have drank too much coffee the day i wrote that amzn review. first sentence alone is ... crazy.

― Mike McGooney-gal, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 21:40 (eighteen years ago)

i think he's making some html character entities gag guys

― ghost rider, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 21:40 (eighteen years ago)

xpost

Nice style would suggest spacing it, yeah, but it's almost less an issue of style and more an issue of, like, kerning -- e.g., I used to be annoyed that a tight ellipsis had become a single character in word processors, until I realized part of the point might be to let fonts style their own ellipses (which is kinda cool), the same way they can do signature variants on M dashes.

Umm let me ask Andy Capp how he feels about this.

― nabisco, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 21:43 (eighteen years ago)

OMG he called me a darkie and head-butted me while mumbling something about someone called Enoch Powell

― nabisco, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 21:44 (eighteen years ago)

I just read [url=[Removed Illegal Link] Month of Andy Capp[url] Luv that internet.

― C. Grisso/McCain, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 21:45 (eighteen years ago)

[url=[Removed Illegal Link] Month of Andy Capp[url]

― C. Grisso/McCain, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 21:46 (eighteen years ago)

Wait, he apologized, now we're sharing some chips and he's telling me what it's like to have sex with his wife

― nabisco, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 21:47 (eighteen years ago)

now ask an apteryx

― ghost rider, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 21:47 (eighteen years ago)

Wow, I always thought that big dustball with the rolling pin sticking out of it was them fighting, but he says she likes "angry sex." Hence the black eye.

― nabisco, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 21:49 (eighteen years ago)

Re: the rolling pin, don't ever eat any baked goods at their house

― nabisco, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 21:51 (eighteen years ago)

ewwww.

Nabisco, don't shoot pool with him, he's a hustler.

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 21:51 (eighteen years ago)

Didn't he suck at everything, though? The main thing I remember, in addition to the wife-beating, is that he was a lousy footballer in the true British style (i.e., played defense, had zero skills, and just fouled everyone all the time).

― nabisco, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 21:54 (eighteen years ago)

hmm, see my post up thread about reading a whole month of Andy Capp. I think there was at least one in there about him winning a game, I think. But yeah, then he loses a lot and punches a wall in the bathroom. Also, there's a gag in there about Andy winning on the horses and walking down the street with a wad of cash in his hand.

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 21:58 (eighteen years ago)

on his way to down 15 pints no doubt

and then it's rolling pin time once again

― dmr, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 22:02 (eighteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/38/85236161_f93363c602_o.jpg

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 22:41 (eighteen years ago)

louis jagger?

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 22:58 (eighteen years ago)

...

― M.V., Tuesday, 10 April 2007 23:12 (eighteen years ago)

bust an andy capp (the original chav?) ...

http://www.kent.ac.uk/studying/images/studying/ugp04/why/exp2a.jpg

― Eisbaer, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 00:39 (eighteen years ago)

HE DIED

http://www.comicmix.com/news/2007/04/17/wizard-of-ids-parker-dies/

― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 16:23 (eighteen years ago)

wow, just like johnny and june

― ghost rider, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 16:26 (eighteen years ago)

http://s3.amazonaws.com/findagrave/photos/2001/359/1250_1009352089.jpg

― and what, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 16:26 (eighteen years ago)

Don't laugh, it will happen to you when Jess dies.

― Nicole, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:34 (eighteen years ago)

I just read about this! My local newspaper's going to have to replace another strip in the same two week span. It's just like the papal elections of 1978!

― Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:36 (eighteen years ago)

and you when bea arthur dies

xp

― and what, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:39 (eighteen years ago)

I don't have long now, do I?

― Nicole, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:40 (eighteen years ago)

sorry that was to dr morbius

― and what, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:40 (eighteen years ago)

Then don't you mean Robert Osborne?

― Nicole, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:44 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

The Four-Eyes chops made me lol, but it was the nabisco meets andy capp dialogue that just did me in.

― Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 18 September 2008 21:12 (seventeen years ago)

two years pass...

http://img.waffleimages.com/b6e23198586dc3db62e3f4953aaec560cd4a8d93/wiz213.gif

the last panel cracked me the fuck up

― miss pansy twist (electricsound), Saturday, 19 February 2011 01:36 (fourteen years ago)

omg nabisco's conversation with Andy Capp

― Peter Pepsi (Abbbottt), Saturday, 19 February 2011 02:50 (fourteen years ago)

one year passes...

Guys.

I never made this connection before.

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb57886/britishcomics/images/b/b7/Andy_capp2.gif http://www.gembloux.be/votre-commune/services-communaux/affaires-sociales/nouveautes/handicap-actualite/image_mini

― pplains, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 02:59 (thirteen years ago)

Wait 'til you figure out why they're called the LOCK HORNS

― drawings by teen cultists (Crabbits), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 03:14 (thirteen years ago)

So if I get shitty drunk and coarse, I can just call myself Andycapped.

― pplains, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 03:16 (thirteen years ago)

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8ifvnNDXN1qbij88o1_250.jpg

― pplains, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 03:18 (thirteen years ago)

king jong il still cracks me up

― detune two oscillators...than what (electricsound), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 03:21 (thirteen years ago)

i can't believe this wasn't an abbbottt thread!

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 05:40 (thirteen years ago)

i once saw a 'wizard of id' original where Hart/Parker had simply pasted over the word balloons to make a new 'gag' - no new drawing required at all

― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 09:19 (thirteen years ago)

The original webcomic cartoonists.

― pplains, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 13:23 (thirteen years ago)

Thread needs Jim Henson's test pilot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDeAuq44XKQ

― drawings by teen cultists (Crabbits), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 13:32 (thirteen years ago)

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