Let the black market in ephedra commence!

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D'oh.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 18:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll miss this stuff. Good for late-night writing. Plus it just made you feel good. Always seemed too good to be legal.

― Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I've never heard of this herbal version. Didn't they used to prescribe Ephedrine to help ease asthma attacks years ago?

― C J (C J), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah re asthma. Ephedrine=mini thins, white cross etc.

― Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 20:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Even pseudoephedrine, aka Sudafed etc is now very restricted here, buying it from pharmacies without a scrip is next to impossble these days. Tho, you can still buy it when its mixed with other stuff (antihistamines, paracetamol etc).

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 01:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Plus it just made you feel good.

Ephedra or ephedrine? The latter can be pretty nasty, in my experience.

― j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 01:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Is ephedra really groovy enough that its banning would encourage a black market for it? Aren't there plenty of other speed-substitutes, legal diet pills, etc. out there?

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 01:44 (twenty-one years ago)

So please, people -- share your ephedra stories!

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 01:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I used to pop a couple ephedra pills before going out clubbing years ago; they definately kept you up. I stopped doing that, though.

― Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 02:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I popped 3 psuedoeph pills once and went to see TISM, got in the moshpit and my heart almost exploded out of my chest; I had to go outside and sit very still for a while and calm down. Not pleasant. Speed's a much less harsh way of getting a kick, ironically.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 02:03 (twenty-one years ago)

CBS News ran a surprisingly harsh package on the FDA's decision, although I guess criticizing the FDA is very PRO-govt in that it's right w/the executive branch rubbishing "govt" at every turn, especially those state institutions that are tasked w/protecting the health of the public. Is this the only knock-on effect of anti-(big-)government propaganda in vogue w/this administration? Given that it's ONLY propaganda (Bush is actually presiding over blockbusting records in federal spending) might it boomerang to, for instance, an unwillingness to grant "govt" a monopoly on violence?

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 02:22 (twenty-one years ago)

(BBC story fails to mention what CBS's did: ephedra's already illegal in three states and it's forbidden in all major American sports)

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 02:24 (twenty-one years ago)

four years pass...

Ephedra now in a grey legal area in Australia, though challenge by Melbourne herbal stores appears to have postponed the inev. Not so Sydney - cannae get it anywhere. And it made such a nice tea.

― moley, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 06:28 (seventeen years ago)

There was this other amazing herbal ecstacy called blue gliders that has dried up in the Happy Herbs market - friends who had it said it was totally an E substitute but without the comedown (and wore off a lot faster). Pity, I'd wanted to try some.

― Trayce, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 07:07 (seventeen years ago)

No longer available?

R and I were delighting in the eph while we were in Melbourne Trayce. You, however, were not impressed?

― moley, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 07:34 (seventeen years ago)

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