What you think of Big Fish?

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I have not seen it, and am guarded, skeptical.

― Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 4 January 2004 03:48 (twenty-one years ago)

this new film, here:
http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/bigfish/index.html

― Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 4 January 2004 03:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm very curious and looking forward to it. I don't think it's opened here yet.

― Viva La Sam (thatgirl), Sunday, 4 January 2004 05:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Just got back from it. Better than I expected. I actually laughed a lot. My what a comforting presence Steve Buscemi is.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Sunday, 4 January 2004 05:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Exsqueeze me?

― may pang (maypang), Sunday, 4 January 2004 05:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Uh.. ignore that last. :///

― may pang (maypang), Sunday, 4 January 2004 05:46 (twenty-one years ago)

post.

― may pang (maypang), Sunday, 4 January 2004 05:46 (twenty-one years ago)

*staggers out of thread*

― may pang (maypang), Sunday, 4 January 2004 05:47 (twenty-one years ago)

come back, have a chocolate martini...

― Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 4 January 2004 05:57 (twenty-one years ago)

i love buscemi. . . and ewan. two of my most favorite actors.

― Viva La Sam (thatgirl), Sunday, 4 January 2004 07:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought it was terrible. I mean, I wasn't planning on seeing it because the trailer looked like Forrest Gump or The Majestic or What Dreams May Come hogwash, but some friends wanted to see it, so I went. I guess my first complaint is that I couldn't detect much of anything real or true or honest about it -- the most powerful scene for me was Billy Crudup's "iceberg" speech, because it really got to the heart of the son's frustration with the father's stories and how that has affected their relationship. I sympathized entirely with Crudup; the movie tries to make you side with Robert Guillaume, who says that he'd rather hear the embellished/made-up story rather than the real (and supposedly "boring") one, but I concurred with Crudup, even until the end: "I think I liked hearing the real one." But after having thought this, I thought, now wait, I'm not SUCH a proponent of realism/naturalism that I completely disavow fantasy -- what specifically was wrong with the fantasy that this movie created? And it's two things: One is that it's a ridiculous sanitized version of the South where a perfect idyllic community is one where everyone walks around barefoot and the women are homogeneously pretty and make great pies (I'm sorry, I'd rather kill myself than live in Spectre). And perhaps more importantly: It's not even all that imaginative of a film. I mean, think of the supposed "eccentrics" that McGregor encounters along his journey: a witch, a giant, a carnival barker, Siamese twins -- all of whom are simply archetypes of "quirkiness" and none of whom are drawn with any kind of depth to lift them above that. In a nutshell, there was very little about Albert Finney's fantasy world that seemed all that appealing or worth preserving at all; it's hard to like a movie that persistently nudges you into believing in its supposed "magic."

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 4 January 2004 07:52 (twenty-one years ago)

i thought it was fine. but i don't know why every director allows ewan to get away with such a bad southern accent. maybe it matched up to albert finney's bad accent.

― lolita corpus (lolitacorpus), Sunday, 4 January 2004 12:13 (twenty-one years ago)

It was alright; cute. Not a classic, but worth admission, I'm sure.

Weird thing is though ... it was in limited release when I saw it, but I paid for the ticket and yet there were still people handing out surveys. WTF. One of them actually had the audacity to look appalled when I didn't fill out the survey. And then again, the second time I saw it.

― dean gulberry (deangulberry), Sunday, 4 January 2004 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)

it's lovely. the "honest" bit was when he fixed up the town. has jessica lange always been a space cadet? on the advertisements before the movie it said she studied mime for two years in paris. and for the archetype quirkiness, it matched the time period and in the last scene you see they were simply exaggerations, and he left spectre, right, only buscemi stuck around for the sycophants. alison lohman should have been in it more to help understand why the mother would love a guy who was never around and lived a richer fantasy life than reality. i thought the accent was meant to be goofy, hick gonna make it big.

― keith m (keithmcl), Monday, 5 January 2004 05:58 (twenty-one years ago)

love a guy who was never around and lived a richer fantasy life than reality

haahaahaaaa! rofl,,ohm
acckkk where the rum??!!

― Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 5 January 2004 06:01 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.burgerking.com/images/food/detail_photos/fish.jpg

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 5 January 2004 06:09 (twenty-one years ago)

but where's the magna carta?

― Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 5 January 2004 06:11 (twenty-one years ago)

um, jaymc-we southern ladies do walk around barefoot all of the time and make delicious pies. it is what we are trained to do from birth.

― Emilymv (Emilymv), Monday, 5 January 2004 07:21 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...

I thought it was cute, it didn't blow my mind though. Best Tim Burton film in a long time anyway. It was weird that so many central characters were played by non-Americans, hence the accents. Although HBC's has improved since Fight Club. The film would have been better if she'd been in it more.

― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Ditto on just about all of that except for that I think HBC was in the film more than enough thx.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Trailer says 'From the imagination of Tim Burton'

So it's a sure bet for Worst Film Ever, I should think.

― Enrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

"from the imination of Jessie Nelson, by way of Ridley Scott."

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

he didn't even write it, so that's really misleading. it's the least burtonesque film of his, I feel. it was interesting to see normal domestic non-fantasy non-ironic scenes in a film of his.

― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I am depressed because this just got nominated for a bunch of BAFTAs, including Picture, Director, and Supp. Actor.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 16:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought Sleepy Hollow was the least Burtonesque Burton film, but Big Fish was definitely a different direction, and one I approved of. Sure there's plenty wrong with the movie, but probably less than most of his others (which are all ultimately flawed, though gorgeous and worthwhile), the obv. exception being Ed Wood.
I would have rather the titular fish had not been CGI though.

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

It was just shy of awful, wasn't it?

― J (Jay), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 16:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Jaymc is otm. There's no darkness to it, nothing sinister. Not only is it a sanitized picture of the South, it's a sanitized life.

― Prude (Prude), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 16:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, because there are never any santizied, overly romantic visions of New York City in film.

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)

First of all, it's a fantastic (in the descriptive sense) film, it has no duty to portray the REAL south. It's barely about the South at all. It happens to be IN the South, but it could've just as easily been in the midwest or Winnipeg (I hear they have catfish in Manitoba).
Second of all, I really appreciated the fact that it wasn't sinister. Sinister/edginess can be a real easy crotch-grab. I don't think the sincerity/optimism angle necessarily worked, but it was nice to see Burton reaching for something different.

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I really didn't think it was all that bad. Not award-worthy, but just okay.

― the icebox (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

My biggest problem with the movie was that the final leg came by rather abruptly. I imagine I'd have gotten a lot more teary-eyed had I not been blindsided with the "is this really going to be the wind-up?" factor.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

might go see it tomorrow night tho i'm not really fussed

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Not award-worthy, but just okay.

Unless perhaps they still give out awards for Best Tim Burton Starring Neither Johnny Depp nor Winona Ryder.

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I am depressed because this just got nominated for a bunch of BAFTAs, including Picture, Director, and Supp. Actor.

But Jay this is purely Brit boosterism at it's worst cos Burton lives in hampstead with HBC and Ewan's involved. The BAFTAs are a joke, and not an entertaining one like The Oscars.

― the icebox (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)

BAFTA sounds like something a first-year college kid would be proud to have teargassed protesting.

― Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought it was great!

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 26 January 2004 03:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I finally saw it and it was so godawful boring we walked out and went for sake and sushi instead.

― Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 26 January 2004 03:24 (twenty-one years ago)

BAFTA sounds like something a first-year college kid would be proud to have teargassed protesting.
Ohhhhh good snap girlfriend.

― Belo, Monday, 26 January 2004 03:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, that was bad. jaymc's first post pretty much summed up what I thought, and the only things worth adding are that the trailer ("I like stories" "Tell the Truth" "Not everything your father says is lies") makes the actual movie unnnecesary (the various pictures in my head were much better), and that the movie tries to have it's cake and eat it with both "Stories make real life interesting" and "Real life is plenty interesting" as morals.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 26 January 2004 09:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I was particularly annoyed at the guy who Ewan kept beating, who I thought might turn out to actually be Albert Finney, or something interesting. No, it turns out that he's a cunt, because we get told he is. Cheers, Tim. Didn't you used to like underdogs?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

From Stephanie Zacharek's Salon.com review (say what you will, I like her):

"Why are people always gassing on about the power of stories when it's so much more effective just to knuckle down and tell one already? We don't need a shaman to inform us that good stories are powerful. But since the '90s, at least, in both books and movies, there's been a marked trend toward reminding us just how important stories are, instead of just laying them on us, the old-fashioned way.

We get wordy preambles -- often delivered by a wise elder, usually a Southerner -- about how stories tell us who we are and where we've been. In a state of innocent hopefulness, we wait to hear the tale: Who knows? It might actually be good. But more often than not it turns out to be some magic-realism baloney about a giant fish in a stream or some similarly numbing metaphor for the unpredictability of life, or the brevity of life, or the importance of taking chances in life -- choose your own larger meaning and insert it here. Maybe the story would have been OK without the big windup. Then again, maybe it needed the advance advertising campaign because it wasn't such a great story to begin with."

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm another one who's completely in jaymc's corner about the movie. its only saving grace was that helena bonham carter was hot, even as the old witch.

― Fell This Boy (Felcher), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I am really glad I saw this thread when I did, I usually like Tim Burton and had wanted to see this.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)

go see it anyway, it's not as bad as they say. i mean it's five hundred times better than planet of the fucking apes, mars attacks, or sleep hollow.

― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 18:28 (twenty-one years ago)

its only saving grace was that helena bonham carter was hot, even as the old witch.

Actually, I didn't think she was that hot in this movie, even though I usually like her. On the other hand, both Alison Lohman and Crudup's French wife = yowza.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I watched Ed Wood again yesterday, it was much better than I remembered.

― NA (Nick A.), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Lisa Marie v. Helena Bonham Carter, fite.

― ModJ (ModJ), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Helena Bonham Carter generally is alluring in pretty much all roles... she works some sort of magic, somehow. ;-)

I do need to see this film, though strangely for such a cineaste such as myself, I've only seen two Tim Burton films, "The Nightmare Before Christmas" and "Ed Wood". Really liked both; "Ed Wood" particularly: it was charming and full of well-played characters, and not all movies of recent years can boast this. :-)

― Tom May (Tom May), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

you didn't even see Batman?
were you not 12 in 1989?

― Huck Me Gently (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

YOU'VE NEVER SEEN EDWARD SCISSORHANDS???

― ModJ (ModJ), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)

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Dull, preachy, fantastical, sentimental, manipulative, and it STILL manages to be a great movie, IMO.

― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

They delayed Ed Wood to April? HUNTKILLSLAY

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

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― Huck Me Gently (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I liked Sleepy Hollow. and I liked Mars Attacks. And when it comes to watching films, which is generally a situation where I want to be emotionally manipulated, I have a sentimental streak a mile wide. Therefore, I suspect, I'll probably like this, too.

― Matt (Matt), Thursday, 29 January 2004 02:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Aw bollocks, no Ed Wood:

http://dvd.ign.com/articles/475/475545p1.html

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 29 January 2004 12:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Motherfuck the fucking fuck fuck and double fuck with a side order of fuck.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 29 January 2004 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw it yesterday, and loved it to bits. Ewan was delightfully Ewan-y, and the whole thing was a very nifty bunch of magical realism.

― Layna Andersen (Layna Andersen), Thursday, 29 January 2004 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Has anyone read the book Big Fish?

I enjoyed the movie a lot, but also thought it had many flaws (most of which have been mentioned), but it really left me curious about the book.

― Huck Me Gently (Horace Mann), Thursday, 29 January 2004 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

the movie as a whole i didn't particularly like for many of the reasons already stated - particularly by jaymc. but i thought the central question (which i took to be, "on some level aren't these fantasies just as real - if not more so - than the plain truth?") was very interesting. on the one hand, you could say that the father is lying to everyone, but on the other hand, do the fantasies tell more about his character/who he is than the truth ever would (& the truth is intermingled with the fantasies as well, so it's not quite pure fiction)? it seems to me perhaps a reaction to the (old-fashioned) typically stoic parents, who presumably nobody really got to know because all they told was the straight truth without any emotion or imagination in it. & really, how much of what one thinks about during a day has to do with FACTS? would you know more about someone if you were given a brief, unemotional biography of the events of their life or if you were told one of their most memorable daydreams?

well, of course a mix of the two would be preferable. but i still found it an interesting thing to think about.

― j c (j c), Sunday, 8 February 2004 01:58 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...

i agree with jaymc although i enjoyed it fine enough, he's a classy filmmaker with the exception of the scene where the kids are outside the witches house and there are these HUGE rotating close-ups that are totally awkward

but yeah this seems a textbook example of a director who has lost some of his personal style in a blockbuster context (though this is a mini-blockbuster i suppose), however palatable the results.

of course the film is a BIG LIE which probably didn't bother me as much as it should

french girl was annoying

alison lohman was STUNNING sigh but had nothing to do which is a shame

― !!!! (amateurist), Thursday, 4 March 2004 17:45 (twenty-one years ago)

also i thought the whole facts/stories dialectic was confused, even botched, especially at the ending

― !!!! (amateurist), Thursday, 4 March 2004 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm halfway through the book which is not majorly, but enough different, and it works a lot better. I'm not sure I understand some of the changes Burton made, since that's where (in my view) a lot of the flaws came in. Maybe, probably, he thought his changes would make it more visually fantastic.
But the book is good, the son is less angry.

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 4 March 2004 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

i mean when he sees the big fish in the swimming pool WTF?

i mean if there was any rigor in the delineation of fact and fiction and the invasion of bully crudup's reasonable world by his father's tales, it might have been cool, but it seemed so lazy in that regard

― !!!! (amateurist), Thursday, 4 March 2004 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

http://imdb.com/gallery/granitz/1495/Events/1495/AlisonLohm_Vespa_611795_400.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Lohman,%20Alison

― !!!! (amateurist), Thursday, 4 March 2004 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I fell asleep.

― Viva La Sam (thatgirl), Thursday, 4 March 2004 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I like dit a lot. It made me cry :-(

― mei (mei), Thursday, 4 March 2004 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I usually don't like Burton at all, but I liked this quite a bit - the "flashback" sequences, at least. I had no love for the present-day "son" sequences, 'cause I wanted to slap the damn son. (I liked the dad as an old guy, though.) I suspect the framing narrative worked a lot better in the book - it seemed like more of a "literary" device.

― morris pavilion (samjeff), Thursday, 4 March 2004 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Finished the book.
Huge differences, mainly, in the book it's the SON that tells the stories about the father and you get the idea that the embellishments are at least as much of his creation as the father's.

I wanted to call my dad after finishing it last night, but it was close to midnight. I think I'll just leave the book on his doorstep, ring the doorbell and run like mad.

― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

ten months pass...

Every single person (except the underdog thing--dude, sometimes "underdogs" are that way for a reason, who gives a shit? The dude was a chump with a hard on for Ewan McGregor) on this thread is kind of OTM in a different way, which is really weird.

This movie still made me cry a lot. Re: the accents, it struck me as funny that Ewan McGregor/Albert Finney and Alison Lohmann/Jessica Lange did not have even kind of the same accents as one another?

― Allyzay Highlights The Fallacy of Radiohead (allyzay), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 06:03 (twenty years ago)

i say i say i do declare!

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 07:34 (twenty years ago)

i thought it was awful and i cried my eyes out at the end; my dad wanted to watch this so i did dear fucking god.

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 07:35 (twenty years ago)

the whole movie rested, as far as i could tell, on the viewer developing some massive rush of sympathy for the father in-spite-of/because-of the son's whining. yes, it tried to be very manipulative, but failed at the first step of any successful cinematic manipulation, which is, of course, making me care about the characters. i had no sympathy for any of the characters, and was left with a big, bright, ham-handed glop of a bad movie.

― derrick (derrick), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 08:13 (twenty years ago)

See the manipulation kind of worked for me there cos his son came across like a big huge asshole for the first like twenty minutes, I mean everyone else seemed to like the dad and the story you had to base your idea that he was a huge liar on didn't seem like it was necessarily a completely made up story, I mean he could've been fishing for christ's sake.

― Allyzay Highlights The Fallacy of Radiohead (allyzay), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 08:15 (twenty years ago)

haha, i had to make sure i posted what i thought i had to this thread... and i did! haha!

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 08:15 (twenty years ago)

I think the fact that the main character is Ewan McGregor gave me somewhat more sympathy for him than I would've had if he was played by someone less, um, "talented".

― Allyzay Highlights The Fallacy of Radiohead (allyzay), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 08:18 (twenty years ago)

i probably could've gone thru life without seeing danny devito's ass

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 08:23 (twenty years ago)

i didn't work; neither in the bed scenes or the flashback/fables did i feel anything for the father. i don't think it was the fault of the actors, but rather a poor, poor script, somewhat mishandled.

― derrick (derrick), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 08:25 (twenty years ago)

ugh yeah i was thinking that when it was on screen. what's weird is that this and Black Hawk Down are like the only Ewan McGregor movies where HE doesn't show HIS ass! (devito's ass made me realize that)

xpost i agree that the script was pretty deeply flawed, there were too many jumps, the end was just like a complete cop out logically BUT STILL THE TEARS OMG.

― Allyzay Highlights The Fallacy of Radiohead (allyzay), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 08:26 (twenty years ago)

I still say fuck this movie.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 08:27 (twenty years ago)

Ewan McGregor's been in a lot of absolute crap, now that I"m thinking about it. This movie really isn't very bad at all comparitively, despite the "where do these people live?" accent confusion going on. I mean, The Pillow Book??!

― Allyzay Highlights The Fallacy of Radiohead (allyzay), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 08:31 (twenty years ago)

x-post: amen, my friend.

― derrick (derrick), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 08:31 (twenty years ago)

o yeah don't get me wrong, i did think it was awful basically. it should be noted i cried at the end of home alone also.

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 08:32 (twenty years ago)

I get misty eyed at the end of Cool Runnings.

I kind of thought it was both awful and charming at the same time. I'm not really sure what I thought of it.

― Allyzay Highlights The Fallacy of Radiohead (allyzay), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 08:33 (twenty years ago)

t or f: ewan macgregor is gonna costar in a michael bay blockbuster movie with scarlett johansen about a clone that realizes he's been cloned for the sole purpose of being an organ donor! this movie is tentatively titled the island! t or f!

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 08:34 (twenty years ago)

you better believe buscemi's in it

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 08:36 (twenty years ago)

that cast is amazing.

― Allyzay Highlights The Fallacy of Radiohead (allyzay), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 08:37 (twenty years ago)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0377981/

Gnomeo & Juliet???

― Allyzay Highlights The Fallacy of Radiohead (allyzay), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 08:38 (twenty years ago)

haha - look who olivia weston's playing

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 08:39 (twenty years ago)

ally if you think gnomeo and juliet's something check this out

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 08:39 (twenty years ago)

good god, I would stand in line for that movie. The Island, that is.

― derrick (derrick), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 08:41 (twenty years ago)

hrm. A look at IMDB just revealed that he's been in Down With Love, Moulin Rouge, The Pillow Book, and Velvet Goldmine, which are four of the worst movies I'VE EVER SAT THROUGH, hands down. Three of them are movies that I really actively get ANGRY about. Plus the Star Wars thing. Maybe I should rethink the idea of Ewan McGregor's continued existance. How long can I let someone slide on being cute? NOT VERY, that's what I say. Or like apparently 10 years, either way.

― Allyzay Highlights The Fallacy of Radiohead (allyzay), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 08:41 (twenty years ago)

I saw the guy who played the giant one time at a bar. he's rather tall.

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 08:42 (twenty years ago)

the dog that saved france?? will ferrell? that sounds amazing. they should combine the two films, bill & ted kind of stylee.

― Allyzay Highlights The Fallacy of Radiohead (allyzay), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 08:42 (twenty years ago)

yes, but ewan was also in Shallow Grave, and is still able to slide by on that for some time, in my book. anyway, he was hardly the worst thing about the star wars films, and had the good grace to look embarrased half the time.

― derrick (derrick), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 09:12 (twenty years ago)

I'm just gonna reiterate that the book is infinitely better, and I totally don't understand any of the choices Burton made in adapting (and changing the ultimate POINT of the whole thing) it.
The book is not so much about telling stories as it is about hearing them, and how when you're a kid your imagination fills in the blanks. It's implied in the book that the great exaggerations are as much a product of the son as the father.

― Huk-L, Wednesday, 26 January 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

Why do I have the feeling that Joan of Bark, as directed by David Mamet, is all a huge joke by the imdb programmers?
Big Fish did nothing for me. I dozed off three times. It was visually stunning, but I kept waiting for something exciting to happen and it never did, because the whole movie had such a "This is a big fish tale" outlook that the fantastic elements just seemed pretty humdrum. I would rather watch Sleepy Hollow or Mars Attacks again anyday.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

a michael bay blockbuster movie

They still make these?

I would rather watch Sleepy Hollow or Mars Attacks again anyday.

"Willy Wonka, Willy Wonka, here he IIIIIIIIIIIIISSS."

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)

Big Pish

― Bumfluff, Wednesday, 26 January 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

Lock thread!

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

No, I think that's part of my point actually--he's not the worst thing about ANY of those movies listed; some of them he's actually the BEST thing about them. He seems, to me, to be a pretty good actor, accent quibbles aside, so his choices of films seem even weirder to me. Is he just totally mentally deficient or something? I mean, honestly, Brassed Off is Dostoyevskian next to 80% of the movies he's done since, say, Trainspotting?

― Allyzay Highlights The Fallacy of Radiohead (allyzay), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

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