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To know them is to love them... despots, autocrats, tyrants, strongmen... yes, dictators. The 20th Century produced a few heavyweights - some ended up living comfortably in exile, while others were hung upside down in gas stations and beat with folding chairs.

Who's you favorite, and why?

― andy, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 19:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't really know anything about him, except that he was deposed, but I've always admired the sand of a dictator who would call himself Papa Doc.

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 19:02 (twenty-two years ago)

why dancin' stalin obv.:
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― dyson (dyson), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 19:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Ally Kearney

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 19:06 (twenty-two years ago)

There was a brief article in People about Baby Doc, Papa's son... he lives almost penniless (or franc-less) in a ramshackle estate in the suburbs of Paris. He seemed sad.

Idi Amin is still alive, and loves to practice the accordion.

― andy, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 19:12 (twenty-two years ago)

didn't Idi just die?

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 19:13 (twenty-two years ago)

mussolini is not.
http://www.angelfire.com/scifi/communism/mussolini.jpg
stood up to hitler before anyone else had the balls, then sided with the man, then was killed 100 times over by his own people.

― dyson (dyson), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 19:16 (twenty-two years ago)

i thought Idi died in exile in Saudi Arabia

― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 19:17 (twenty-two years ago)

he's dead

― dyson (dyson), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 19:20 (twenty-two years ago)

that old scamp Enver Hoxha (S-Albania) gets my vote as dictator of the century

― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 19:21 (twenty-two years ago)

nicolae and elena ceausescu (yes, i know that they're dead)

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 19:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Amin's nickname tho is a keeper, "Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Sea"

― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 19:22 (twenty-two years ago)

YOU TWEE FUXORS I PISS ON YOU LAME-ASS MOTHERS COME TO BUCHAREST AND I'LL FUCK YOU UP SECURITATE STYLE!

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― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 19:24 (twenty-two years ago)

ally and tombot, 30 years from now:

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― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 19:25 (twenty-two years ago)

"To choose ones' victims, to prepare one's plans minutely, to slake an implacable vengeance, and then to go to bed... there is nothing sweeter in the world." - Josef Stalin

Word.

― andy, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 19:27 (twenty-two years ago)

"one death is a tragedy, a million a statistic." that's also a stalin quote.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 19:30 (twenty-two years ago)

mobutu's hat rules my world

http://www.afrology.com/images/mobutu.jpg

― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 19:39 (twenty-two years ago)

his debut album "My Aim is True" wasn't so bad either

― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 19:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Hitler might have the best design team, but the Khmer Rouge were the most sci-fi... Pol Pot called himself "No. 1" and 1975 was "Year Zero..."

What if 1975 WAS year zero? That would make this year 29.

― andy, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Phil Spector

― Patrick Kinghorn, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 20:07 (twenty-two years ago)

The Dictators of Zrag.

― MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 10:34 (twenty-two years ago)

"A terrorist is not just someone with a gun or bomb, but anybody who spreads ideas contrary to civilisation" - Gen Stroessner

― dave q, Wednesday, 7 January 2004 10:55 (twenty-two years ago)

There can be only one. The man of steel, Stalin.

When it comes to ruthlessness and tyranny this bloke makes Adolf look like a failed Viennese artiste. Forget about Mussolini 'standing up to Hitler before anyone else had the balls'...Hitler took another decade to scam office after Il Duce and towards the latter stages of the Second conflict Benito was Hitler's pathetic puppet as the Italanios did their famous changing sides act.

No, Josef was ten times worse than Hitler and a hundred times worse than Benito. Stalin kissed Lenin's arse and suceeded (like Hitler) because his rivals had the gross misfortune to underestimate him.

Let's have a look at Stalin's (post General secretary) rap sheet...it sure is a black page in world history.

The liqudation of the russian intelligentsia
The liqudation of the Kulaks
The famine of the Ukraine
The gulag archipelego - the Cheka, NKVD
The purges of the Communist Party, including one time friends like Bukarhian, Zinoviev, Trotskey, Kamenev, Kirov and Yezhov
The show trials with Josef's good mate Judge Ulrik
The forced industrialisation of the two five year plans
The purge of the Red Army leadership at a time when it should have been obvious that war was looming
The Nazi-Soviet pact which gave the Third Reich the green light to attack the west
The massacre at Katyn forest
Stalin's order for the Red Army to sit on their hands while the Polish uprising in Warsaw was ruthlessly crushed by the Gestapo...nothing like getting someone else to do your dirty work for you

So it appears that a jolly time was had by all under the father of the people, Stalin. At the time of his death, Stalin was planning another purge that would have eliminated Zhukov, Molotov and Beria (although Beria would have been no loss and they got him in the end in any case). Eveyone was so shit scared of him that when he became ill they all just let him die so that they could all live.

Hitler may have been the beast behind the final solution, but Stalin's bloodthirsty regime was responsible for the slaughter of millions of his own people...and a lot more besides.

regards,

REB

PS - Apologies for the spelling!

― Rik E Boy (Rik E Boy), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 12:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Re: Stalin vs. Hitler - keep in mind that Stalin was in power a lot longer than Hitler...

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 13:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Skinny moustache vs. bushy moustache

― Leee Smith (Leee), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 21:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Pol Pot got rid of 1/4 of the Cambodian population in four lousy years. For sheer what-the-fuckosity, nobody else even comes close to Brother Number One. Consider one awful wrenching anecdote: during the years 1975-1979, there was very little meat to go around in Cambodia, especially for the "new people" (=those who had lived in Phnom Penh, i.e. non-rural people). Within the reeducation camps, though, there was one class that was often given a little helping of pork with their daily allotment of rice gruel: the Chams, who were Muslim. If they did not eat their pork, they were killed.

I hesitate to use the word "favorite," but yeah: Pol Pot cut right to the chase.

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Thursday, 8 January 2004 02:09 (twenty-two years ago)

John, you're back! Er, admittedly with one of the saddest posts ever. Man, do I celebrate or hate the world more?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 January 2004 02:12 (twenty-two years ago)

RE Stalin, modern revulsion of him is bang-on; to see how things used to be, see 'Stalin wasn't stalling' by Robert Wyatt on Nothing can Stop Us (1982).
Truly extraordinary.

― pete s, Thursday, 8 January 2004 02:25 (twenty-two years ago)

the results of this test makes me angry. i'm tougher than that pussy¡

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― dyson (dyson), Friday, 9 January 2004 20:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I find that you can't go wrong with the SH30 from Grundig. The microphone is sensitive enough to pick most everything up - even over rush hour traffic - and it seems tailor made to slip into the breast pocket of a carefully pressed Brooks Brothers shirt.

http://www.grundig.com.au/images/grundig_sh30.jpg

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 9 January 2004 20:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Thanks to this, Kim Jong-Il just shot to the top in my estimation.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 January 2004 20:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh that guy's great!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 9 January 2004 21:15 (twenty-two years ago)

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― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 9 January 2004 21:22 (twenty-two years ago)

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― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 9 January 2004 21:24 (twenty-two years ago)

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Oh no.

― sym (shmuel), Friday, 9 January 2004 21:35 (twenty-two years ago)

That's depressing.

― sym (shmuel), Friday, 9 January 2004 21:37 (twenty-two years ago)

i'd rather have him than hussein.
i friggin get stuck with the joke dictator.

― dyson (dyson), Friday, 9 January 2004 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey, at least you're not afraid of confontation. I'm cowardly and evil. Do ya think this test was made before the war on Iraq?

― sym (shmuel), Friday, 9 January 2004 21:41 (twenty-two years ago)

no idea.
the pic is before, that's fer sure.

― dyson (dyson), Friday, 9 January 2004 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)

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― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 9 January 2004 21:56 (twenty-two years ago)

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i think my movie may be at adds with my leader.

― dyson (dyson), Friday, 9 January 2004 22:02 (twenty-two years ago)

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― Leee Majors (Leee), Friday, 9 January 2004 22:06 (twenty-two years ago)

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Mine is definitely at odds with my leader. And I hate Easy Rider. I don't think these tests are scientifically valid.

― sym (shmuel), Friday, 9 January 2004 22:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Einstein and Apocalypse Now

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 9 January 2004 22:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Che + Wuthering Heights = yup, me all right.

― Leee Majors (Leee), Friday, 9 January 2004 22:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I think I'd have to go with Caligula.

http://www.vroma.org/images/mcmanus_images/caligula1c.jpg

― o. nate (onate), Friday, 9 January 2004 23:27 (twenty-two years ago)

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How did I get this?

― cybele (cybele), Friday, 9 January 2004 23:36 (twenty-two years ago)

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― ModJ (ModJ), Saturday, 10 January 2004 01:14 (twenty-two years ago)

"Tastes good."

― ModJ (ModJ), Saturday, 10 January 2004 01:14 (twenty-two years ago)

My current favorite: Turkmenistan President Saparmurat Niyazov. He's about as crazy as Woody Allen is in Bananas. For starters, he's renamed the calendar and officially extended adolescence until 25.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Sunday, 11 January 2004 18:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Let's not forget how he looks:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38185000/jpg/_38185391_niyazov150.jpg

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 11 January 2004 18:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Stages of the life of a Turkmen
0-12: childhood
13-25: adolescence
25-37: youth
37-49: maturity
49-61: prophetic
61-73: inspirational
73-85: wisdom
85-97: old age
97-109: Oguzkhan

Wow. But I don't think Woody was that crazy in Bananas.

― sym (shmuel), Sunday, 11 January 2004 23:01 (twenty-two years ago)

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and Apocalypse Now.

― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Sunday, 11 January 2004 23:53 (twenty-two years ago)

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and Wuthering Heights

― Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 12 January 2004 00:02 (twenty-two years ago)

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― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Monday, 12 January 2004 01:07 (twenty-two years ago)

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