― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 8 January 2004 22:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 8 January 2004 22:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― Allyzay, Thursday, 8 January 2004 22:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― andy, Thursday, 8 January 2004 22:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 8 January 2004 22:57 (twenty-two years ago)
xpost no one in the entire world likes Michael Bloomberg, that is also a dead fact. I don't think even Bloomberg likes himself.
― Allyzay, Thursday, 8 January 2004 22:58 (twenty-two years ago)
{sorry...}
― Kerry (dymaxia), Thursday, 8 January 2004 23:10 (twenty-two years ago)
I can't see this helping really. only will feed the repub meme of lefty elitism -'democrats are elitist hollywood types and this slut's endorsement is proof positive'
― bill stevens (bscrubbins), Thursday, 8 January 2004 23:11 (twenty-two years ago)
Clark has the best chance of beating Bush
Wrong
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 8 January 2004 23:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― Kingfishee (Kingfish), Thursday, 8 January 2004 23:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― Allyzay, Friday, 9 January 2004 00:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 9 January 2004 00:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― B61 (calstars), Friday, 9 January 2004 00:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 9 January 2004 00:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― Allyzay, Friday, 9 January 2004 00:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 9 January 2004 01:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― Allyzay, Friday, 9 January 2004 01:08 (twenty-two years ago)
Isn't there some website where I can go to and find out the Celebrity Endorsement roll call? Or can I just wait for the Oscars to see the winners make brilliant endorsements like Michael Moore did last year?
― don weiner, Friday, 9 January 2004 02:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― Liberal Media (Leee), Friday, 9 January 2004 03:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― dyson (dyson), Friday, 9 January 2004 03:16 (twenty-two years ago)
ILX has actually made an important and crucial difference to how we Brits are informed about the US presidential elections, in that I (and many others no doubt) have previously been largely unaware of the existence of the US presidential candidates until the TV news decides to run a report about them and even then the report is often too short for us to ascertain what the various candidates actually stand for.
― MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 9 January 2004 08:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 9 January 2004 10:14 (twenty-two years ago)
i originally heard about dean when michael moore came to london with 'bowling for columbine'. he wasn't endorsing, but just mentioned his name. i started keeping track and like a lot of people, jumped on the dean side when he was the only viable democrat to be clearly and firmly anti war.
i got so involved because that's the way the campaign is designed, and i love it. anyone that is interested can get as involved as they want, something i feel is new and different about this campaign.
i think clark has a lot of good policy. most of the dems (except joe) aren't unpalatable to me. but most of them supported bush over the war, which i find pretty unforgivable.
my personal opinion on clark, which is based more on gut reaction than anything else, is that he's had the benefit of jumping in late and riding on successful coattails. He was able to see that dean got loads of public support because of being anti war, and is now the other anti war candidate. (which I find confusing, since he is addressed as ‘general’, but maybe that’s just me). He saw that dean was harnessing grassroots enthusiasm, and is trying to build a campaign on the same lines, although with backing from mainstream dems and the DLC.
what I didn’t know till this week was the extent that clark is wrapped up in corporate interests. i’ll try to find the website, but there was apparently a big article that talked about one of the main differences between dean and clark being their general policies on taking corporate money. i like the fact that dean is just taking little amounts of money from loads of americans, i think it’s fantastic that it can work like that, and that he isn’t bought and paid for by oil/alcohol/tobacco etc.
apologies for the mini-soapbox.
if you’re interested in a fun version of this, slate has a silly little game to help you pick your candidate at:http://slate.msn.com/id/2090855/
or the guardian had a few articles that were brief summaries of all the major points. one is at http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1090963,00.html
― colette (a2lette), Friday, 9 January 2004 13:44 (twenty-two years ago)
we have joan jett, anyway. woo.
― colette (a2lette), Friday, 9 January 2004 13:46 (twenty-two years ago)
My initial thought was that Madonna these days looks like one of those man-starved bulimic gallerists you see at art openings, I think nobody cares enough about her politics for an endorsement to matter, and only serves to make her look self-important having spent her clout for that stuff a long time ago on bullshit, so meh.
― suzy (suzy), Friday, 9 January 2004 14:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― Kerry (dymaxia), Friday, 9 January 2004 14:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― Kerry (dymaxia), Friday, 9 January 2004 14:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― suzy (suzy), Friday, 9 January 2004 15:00 (twenty-two years ago)
and to take pictures of themselves getting fucked by Vanilla Ice.
― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 9 January 2004 15:11 (twenty-two years ago)
Marilyn Manson should come out and endorse Bush again.
― Kerry (dymaxia), Friday, 9 January 2004 15:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 9 January 2004 15:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 9 January 2004 15:56 (twenty-two years ago)
Well gosh, Don, we can't form our opinions until George Clooney, Sheryl Crow and Chris Kirkpatrick lay their cards down! Don't you know anything about Democrats?!
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 9 January 2004 16:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― nathalie (nathalie), Friday, 9 January 2004 16:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 9 January 2004 16:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― suzy (suzy), Friday, 9 January 2004 16:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― Kerry (dymaxia), Friday, 9 January 2004 16:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― suzy (suzy), Friday, 9 January 2004 16:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 9 January 2004 16:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 9 January 2004 16:27 (twenty-two years ago)
(Clark is unlikely to be Dean's running mate. I tend to doubt Clark would ask Dean, though I think he'd take it if asked.)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 9 January 2004 16:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 9 January 2004 16:31 (twenty-two years ago)
If you don't count Don Henley, John Cusack, Radiohead, Coldplay, Patti Smith, Chrissie Hynde, Ted Danson and Ryan Adams as part of the advisory panel then I truly am out of step.
If Madonna wasn't so desperate to get her career back she wouldn't make such a big target.
― don weiner, Friday, 9 January 2004 16:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 9 January 2004 16:32 (twenty-two years ago)
From today's NY Times: Seeking Women's Votes
Gen. Wesley K. Clark has replaced his navy blue suit with an argyle sweater in an attempt to increase his support among women.
Argyle sweater? Isn't he pretty enough?
― Kerry (dymaxia), Friday, 9 January 2004 16:34 (twenty-two years ago)
And sadly makes a floating boxing-practice bean sack out of himself..
Shit, who knows, maybe having folks like Dean polarize the Dems and Repubs even further will help the Dems, for all I know.
― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 9 January 2004 18:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 9 January 2004 18:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― sym (shmuel), Friday, 9 January 2004 22:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― don weiner, Saturday, 10 January 2004 15:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― sym (shmuel), Sunday, 11 January 2004 01:20 (twenty-two years ago)
There's a short interview with Dean in this week's US News - the beginning is priceless:
Do you regret saying you needed to plug a foreign policy hole in your resume with your running mate?
No.
But George Bush never said he had to fill a foreign policy hole.
Well, he should have; it was really the truth. And he didn't plug it, either.
― daria g (daria g), Sunday, 11 January 2004 03:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 15:36 (twenty-two years ago)