why do some people recall lots of facts and others not?

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I find it curious the way you can get two ppl, apparently from the same background, with the same eduction and opportunities and even with the same general interests and yet one will recall lots of facts (and/or have a reputation for doing so) and the other will not. why should this be?

MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 9 January 2004 11:24 (twenty-two years ago)

my ex used to be irritated by me coz I recalled lots of facts. she said it was embarrassing and she felt ashamed of me because of it. it was one of the contributive factors to us splitting up.

she went so far as to claim on one occasion that the slight difference in our education in that I did 'O' levels and she did GCSEs was a contributive factor to this difference (for non-UK ilxors - the O level was a purely exam based system of qualifications taken at age 16 and the GCSE was its more coursework based replacement).

MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 9 January 2004 11:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Nah, I did GCSEs and I can remember all sorts of facts.

caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 9 January 2004 11:32 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, I thought this was highly unlikely to have an effect but it did make me wonder even more about why this difference existed. There was a nasty side to it which said something along the lines of "the fact that you can recall a lot of factual imformation and spout it is yr way of trying to hide your ability to think properly" by which she meant reasoned debate I believe.

MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 9 January 2004 11:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I did GCSEs too and my retention of useless ephemera is pretty good.

chris (chris), Friday, 9 January 2004 11:39 (twenty-two years ago)

What the brassical chappy said. I think the GCSE thing is a red herring, the nasty side comment maybe less so.

Ricardo (RickyT), Friday, 9 January 2004 11:40 (twenty-two years ago)

some people use their brains for useful things like forming conversations and useful social relationships. others of us can remeber Flying Nun catalogue numbers across three formats. I think it's something that is developed or left to atrophy depending on the person and their priorities.

petra jane (petra jane), Friday, 9 January 2004 12:07 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm crap at both

The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Friday, 9 January 2004 12:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm really crap at remembering facts, can't memorize even things I'm extremely interested in. Lousy at faces, names, everything.

I have however developed a strategies for remembering phone numbers and pin codes. For phone numbers I learn the melody of the tone dial. For pin codes i remember the pattern on the keyboard.

These things you might think would be so much harder to remember than the actual numbers, but they're not. My brain must work in strange ways.

Hanna (Hanna), Friday, 9 January 2004 13:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Facts I can do; names and faces, what I did on the weekend, what my best mate's new baby is called, I'm absolutely hopeless.

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 9 January 2004 13:16 (twenty-two years ago)

petra jane OTM, i'd say.

also the line between "knowledge of emphemera" and "anorak" is a fine one. i for one, know exactly on which side of the line i belong...

would people say this was a mainly male thing? or not? i'm inclined to think it is, but i think it depends on the type of "fact" eg meg remembers who every person who appears on our telly has been out with for the past ten years, which 9 times out of 10 means nothing to me, but i can pretty much recite the venue and year of every modern olympics...

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 9 January 2004 14:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I am a repository for useless information, hence my general success at pub quizzes etc, but I think this is masking my failings at all real social skills, and it gives me ways to butt into conversations.

It's kind of like how blokes bond over football, isn't it, it's just a Statto kind of thing - "yeah, but remember when he got sent off against St Johnstone in 1976" kind of things = "hey, I know stuff". I'm much better at that kind of conversation but I think that it's more a male trait.

ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 9 January 2004 14:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Exactly what Mark said but the other way round. I find fact knowledge highly impressive in others but I think on the whole I'm glad I remember birthdays and who's going out with who and people's names and stuff.

Archel (Archel), Friday, 9 January 2004 14:25 (twenty-two years ago)

same thing. i can remember useless facts and trivia, what people were wearing at a specific event, endless relationship history of people i don't know. but not matching names with faces. like that one guy said up there. what was his name again?

colette (a2lette), Friday, 9 January 2004 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)

fact checking cuz to thread

As I age ungracefully I can't remember anything I learned in school. I studied economics in college and when the econonmics thread about the strength of dollar relative to the Euro and the Pound was posted I thought, oh good I'll have a try at this. I couldn't recall anything. I then spent last night trying to formulate why deficit spending was a bigger boost to the economy then just spending what you take in.

Eventually full on dementia will set in I won't have to worry about it.

lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Friday, 9 January 2004 14:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I saw a program on this but I KANT REMEMBAH. har har.

nathalie (nathalie), Friday, 9 January 2004 16:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I retain a lot of facts, and forget lots too. But I retain a lot, maybe an abnormal amount, or maybe just on abnormal subjects. Anyway, it gives people the wrong impression. The wrong impression that I'm smart, which I'm not.

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 9 January 2004 16:04 (twenty-two years ago)

i used to have an elephant's memory ... till i started smoking weed.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 9 January 2004 16:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I am a walking library and I have one of the scariest short-term memories I've encountered. See why everyone kind of resented me at language school (haha surprise vocab quiz whatever teach). I think it is a big contributing factor to my lack of patience with other people at times. A lot of other people lose a lot of patience with me because I am an asshole and have no talent for punctuality.

TOMBOT, Friday, 9 January 2004 16:47 (twenty-two years ago)

i remember stuff in great detail, especially coversations and things i've read, and music/lyrics, and things like laws/regulations,and other languages

i have absolutely no memory for current film and tv actors. my brain refuses to store this information. i forget films unless i really like them.

Orbit (Orbit), Saturday, 10 January 2004 06:08 (twenty-two years ago)

some people use their brains for useful things like forming conversations and useful social relationships. others of us can remeber Flying Nun catalogue numbers across three formats.

I'm not convinced as to the worth of social relationships but I can remember lots of facts, and "trivial level" knowledge that would come in handy on Jeapordy. I'm generally detached from social conversations, so my memory of that is sketchy at best.

And yes I can remember some Flying Nun catalog numbers, but I'm better at Creation Records catalogs

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 10 January 2004 06:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I have a good memory for the usual things that non-social people tend to remember.

I run into trouble when I'm trying to focus on one thing -- everything else going on around me gets shut out and I find myself with so little concern for peripherals (whether to turn left or right, which guy my waiter is when I need to signal him for the check, etc) that I forget them instantly. It's a little frustrating sometimes, but it's just how my brain processes and stores information.

jody (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 10 January 2004 07:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I've always been pretty good with facts. In fact, half of what I do for a living is fact-checking. And for whatever reason, I tend to be very chronological-minded -- I always remember years that albums and movies came out, sports championships, etc. But I have a couple friends who amaze me with their ability to remember specific conversations and exchanges from several years ago. I'm usually like, "I said that? Really?"

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 10 January 2004 07:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I also want to know why I remember certain mundane moments from my childhood but not others.

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 10 January 2004 07:16 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm like that with conversations--photographic and word-for-word.

Orbit (Orbit), Saturday, 10 January 2004 07:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm another one of those who can do the meaningless trivia but not the everyday names.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Saturday, 10 January 2004 07:37 (twenty-two years ago)

My memory can be a bit unpredictable. At times I can have a rather frighteningly good recall of certain things that were said to me or things I told people or little bits of trivia I'd found out or certain lessons I'd learned, but then there are those other times when I can't recall anything and I wonder if I'm going through early senility. What's curious is that I can't really predict when these activities will occur or what exactly I will or won't be able to recall a decade from now. I wonder why that's the case.

lawrence, I know just exactly what you were trying to communicate/explain re: that thread. I can also recall learning about the benefits of deficit spending and the drawbacks of balanced budgets, but I don't know how to communicate that which I understood perfectly just three or four years ago. Ackage!

Tenacious Dee (Dee the Lurker), Saturday, 10 January 2004 09:42 (twenty-two years ago)

my memory is shit. names are gone the instant they've been introduced. I can put notes up telling me to remember something at certain time in the future, but by that time (sometimes "that time" =within an hour or so, thee has become as much a part of the background as the wall and I forget it even has any significance.

I think the answer to your question is that some people have brains that I envy and some people don't. you can take ol' God to task for that shit.

Actually, you can take *me* to task for having a poor memory. God is silly.

Shep, Saturday, 10 January 2004 10:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I haven't got much of a memory for names and faces, for useful concrete information or for anything told me before 10am. The verb and noun tables I spent years learning for various languages have faded away, along with the vocabulary; but scraps of theory, basic concepts, How Things Work, all that tends to stay with me. As well as some fantastically useless facts, like the names of the nine muses. I think it's because I don't have much of a visual memory, so everything has to be auditory - either with a cadence to it I can remember (poetry) or reworded by me enough times that it sticks.

That said, it seems like I can remember more offhand than some of the guys at college, who always assume I've been doing Mad Revision when I haven't looked at a single book.

cis (cis), Saturday, 10 January 2004 11:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Given that I don't think I've lost a game of Trivial Pursuit, and I always scored very high on exams while doing far less revision than everyone else (last exam I did: "No, I didn't revise anything. Yes, I know it's an open book exam, but I didn't think I needed to bring anything" - 94%), I guess I have a good memory. I put some of it down to grasping how things work and link together, which makes it much easier, but that certainly doesn't account for being good at Triv.

I think the answer is pretty simple, though it only shifts the question along a step - everyone is different, and one of those areas is memory, and indeed we can break it down further as people have said - different people are stronger or weaker in different areas and modes of remembering. I think I'm pretty good at most of them, to be honest, but I can still see variances.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 10 January 2004 12:50 (twenty-two years ago)

i used to have an elephant's memory ... till i started smoking weed.
-- Eisbär (llamasfu...), January 9th, 2004.

OMFG...SO OTM, it ain't even funny. Drugs are bad!

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Saturday, 10 January 2004 13:19 (twenty-two years ago)


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