Dirk Bogarde vs. James Mason

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I can't decide. Whom do you prefer?

Charles Hatcher (musenheddo), Thursday, 22 January 2004 14:22 (twenty years ago) link

Based on the very interesting painting of James Mason with a siamese cat in the Laundry Pub, I'll have to go with him. Wouldn't have a clue based on films, since I don't see films.

the river fleet, Thursday, 22 January 2004 14:29 (twenty years ago) link

haven't seen any of Dirk's work, but based on 20,000 Leagues... and his distinctive manner of speaking, i'd go with James Mason.

Plus, Mayor O.D. McCrack of Druggachussetts shares his voice, especially when he declares this pizza to be...AWESOME.

Huggy Dork (Kingfish), Thursday, 22 January 2004 14:39 (twenty years ago) link

mason by a fcking mile.

check 'a star is born' for the stone cold evidence. bogarde's entire career knocked into a cocked one, just by the opening scene.
as norman maine (legendary showbiz-kid on the slide) backstage at a charity gala and drunker even than usual, mason falls onto his hapless pr man (jack carson) and giggles 'why do i despise you so much' ? best drunk performance ever. and that's really only the start. he beat olivier and burton to the part.
eat that dirk-y the night porter !

he's all that in 'odd man out' too. ditto 'salem's lot'.

piscesboy, Thursday, 22 January 2004 14:45 (twenty years ago) link

I watched Night Porter last night. Im all about Bogarde.

anthony, Thursday, 22 January 2004 14:54 (twenty years ago) link

Reccomend me some good Mason films! We don't get television out here, but there's a video machine, so I might do some catching up.

the river fleet, Thursday, 22 January 2004 14:56 (twenty years ago) link

Lolita!

Sam (chirombo), Thursday, 22 January 2004 16:02 (twenty years ago) link

Bogarde hands down:

Victim
The Servant
Death in Venice
Nightporter

suzy (suzy), Thursday, 22 January 2004 16:05 (twenty years ago) link

Mason. Apparently, at one stage he was receiving an estimated 5,000 fan letters a week.

Hitchcock - North By Northwest
Kubrick - Lolita
Peckinpah - Cross of Iron

The best thing about him though, was that his cremated ashes were stored in a Swiss bank vault for 15 years while his children and second wife fought a bitter legal battle over his legacy.

Roger Thornhill: Apparently the only performance that will satisfy you is
when I play dead.
Phillip Vandamm: Your very next role, and you'll be quite convincing, I assure you.

@lex K (Alex K), Thursday, 22 January 2004 16:26 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.lynnpdesign.com/classicmovies/mason/index_11.gif

Oh my god, he's hot. I think I might have a new crush. Plus, he's a Mason. Heh.

James Masonic Boom, Thursday, 22 January 2004 17:37 (twenty years ago) link

check 'a star is born' for the stone cold evidence.

Oh yeah. I first learned about him in his last years with movies like Evil Under the Sun and Yellowbeard where he was obviously relaxing but doing so with avuncular style. Then I saw some films of his glory days and goldang.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 22 January 2004 17:44 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com/j/James%20Mason.jpg

Wow. Why has this never been a Smiths album cover? Or has it?

the river fleet, Thursday, 22 January 2004 17:57 (twenty years ago) link

Bogarde all the way!

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 22 January 2004 18:03 (twenty years ago) link

bogarde for "the servant" alone!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 22 January 2004 18:24 (twenty years ago) link

Mason Mason Mason Mason

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 22 January 2004 18:25 (twenty years ago) link

and exactly HOW many novels did james mason write, anthony?

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 22 January 2004 18:27 (twenty years ago) link

Ethan Hawke wrote two. YOUR POINT?

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 22 January 2004 18:33 (twenty years ago) link

James Mason all the way. Fave Mason movie is Bigger Than Life, but also search Cross Of Iron, The Blue Max, Journey To The Center Of The Earth, and 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 22 January 2004 18:34 (twenty years ago) link

Bogarde for the Night Porter - there's always an odd disconnect when I watch Mason...

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 22 January 2004 18:35 (twenty years ago) link

Robert Newton

Adrian (Adrian Langston), Thursday, 22 January 2004 18:51 (twenty years ago) link

Mason for his creepy performance in Forever, Darling.

aleksandr supertramp (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 22 January 2004 18:53 (twenty years ago) link

Bogarde for Despair, because nobody else could say "intelligence would take the bloom off your carnality" without laughing. Except Mason, perhaps, but his voice sometimes irritates me whereas I could listen to Bogarde for the rest of my life. A better thread would be why actors who can't speak right are disappearing. Of the new generation, who has the most distinctive speaking voice? Depp can't decide on which way wrong he wants to speak, and Billy Bob is just doing the hillbilly thing. Giovanni Ribisi? For shame.

Otis D. Wheeler, Thursday, 22 January 2004 18:54 (twenty years ago) link

Pauline Kael noted that Michael York seems to be channeling James Mason's voice in Cabaret...and she's right! It's pretty creepy.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 22 January 2004 18:55 (twenty years ago) link

I mean I like mason for sure, 20,000 Leagues is one of my favourite movies, but... the servant!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 22 January 2004 18:57 (twenty years ago) link

and of course despair!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 22 January 2004 18:57 (twenty years ago) link

Bogarde gets props for being in my favorite nazi s&m movie, but i've held a life-long adoration for everything James Mason that just cannot be fucked with.

Adrian (Adrian Langston), Thursday, 22 January 2004 18:59 (twenty years ago) link

yeah this goes to bogarde

but mason gets extra points for having a sense of his own ridiculousness

and he's extra creepy in north by northwest

amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 23 January 2004 10:08 (twenty years ago) link

i'm mixed about his tour de force performance in a star is born... what do you think?

amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 23 January 2004 10:08 (twenty years ago) link

we should make a parody of it called "a star is blecch" and send it in to MAD

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 23 January 2004 17:11 (twenty years ago) link

I think his moments in said film that don't work are a product of the melodrama of the script rather than anything he might have been dealing with. I'm mostly thinking of that 'lying in bed and overhearing the conversation' part.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 23 January 2004 17:49 (twenty years ago) link

also judy garland sort of blows everyone out of the water in that film

amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 26 January 2004 11:22 (twenty years ago) link

MASON Y'ALL! Enough with the crazy pills, there is *no* debate here. There's a bunch of Mason films on afternoon TV this week in the UK -- watch them.

'Caught' by Max Ophuls (mmm, tracking shots)
'Bigger Than Life' by Nicholas Ray (mmm, mise-en-scene)
'North By Northwest' by Alfred Hitchcock (mmm, comic acting)
And I haven't even mentioned his Gainsborough pix (cos I haven't seen them).

Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 26 January 2004 11:37 (twenty years ago) link

Bogarde for (among other things) his cardigan-wearing fashion sense in Darling.

http://members.aol.com/Alpheratz9/bogarde.gif

Mary (Mary), Monday, 26 January 2004 11:51 (twenty years ago) link

four months pass...
Revive: Tell me more about this charming man Bogarde. Last night I watched Victim and tonight I will watch Accident. How are the Doctor films?

Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 20:26 (twenty years ago) link

They're no good.

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 27 May 2004 02:01 (twenty years ago) link

have you seen the servant? which rules?

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 27 May 2004 04:23 (twenty years ago) link

I haven't seen Servant yet, but it's on my list.

Mary (Mary), Thursday, 27 May 2004 04:26 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
Revive the debate. (I stick with my earlier answer.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:31 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.musicman.com/00pic/6273.jpg

For the second time on this board!

I prefer Mason though, deffo.

David Orton (scarlet), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:44 (eighteen years ago) link

there's always an odd disconnect when I watch Mason...
Spencer otm. Bogarde by a mile for, among other things, the moment in The Servant when he says "Vera's my fiancée. I'm perfectly within my rights" and the pull quote on the cover of Ingmar Bergman's The Magic Lantern where he says something like "I urge you to read this book by this passionate caring man."

The Day The World Turned Dayglo Redd (Ken L), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I saw The Servant not too long ago and found it kinda silly, in a much more typical GASP Decadence! way than I would've expected from Pinter.

Bogarde had a much shorter career and hence made more crap (tho Mason did plenty in the '60s and '70s too), so c'mon. JM is heartbreaking and off-the-charts sexy in Ophuls' The Reckless Moment. Also, I want him to Oscar-slap someone every year like he did Garland.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:47 (eighteen years ago) link

I love James Mason; he possessed the most beautiful voice in cinema. Search: Odd Man Out (in which he was remarkably handsome), Five Fingers, North by Northwest, Lolita (the perfect Humbert), The Verdict, The Shooting Party.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Bogarde and Pinter were made for each other: the tinny, bitchy cleverness that dissolves into camp.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:51 (eighteen years ago) link

wtf, have you read pinter?

Real Goths Don't Wear Black (Enrique), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Camp as Christmas:

http://www.dacre.org/flash/www/gb100876.jpg

Dadaismus sinks his soul in Mother Nature's bower (Dada), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link

James Mason!

I was trying to remember his name ages ago.

Wild Woman With Steak Knives (kate), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:56 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
I must vote for Dirk Bogarde hands down...James Mason always seemed so remote and cold no matter what part he was playing..DB was the most versitile actor we had his range was remarkable witness performances from the Doctor films to Darling to The Servant, etc..also he was a talented writer and artist and he had a long career spanning from the late 40's to his last film in 1991

Nancy Kuchvalek, Sunday, 23 April 2006 23:17 (eighteen years ago) link

JM by a mile and a half
Odd Man Out & Reckless Moment, dudes! (I must see Bigger than Life one of these days)

timmy tannin (pompous), Monday, 24 April 2006 00:44 (eighteen years ago) link

James Mason always seemed so remote and cold no matter what part he was playing

How are those minuses?

Besides, have you seen Odd Man Out, A Star is Born, or The Shooting Party?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 24 April 2006 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

eight months pass...
Just rescreened The Shooting Party. His scene comforting the shot gamekeeper is a real corker: a gentlemen comforting a social inferior without an smidgen of condescension.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 18 January 2007 00:33 (seventeen years ago) link

also great in Georgy Girl

sydz (sydz), Thursday, 18 January 2007 02:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Adam and the Ants first album is called "Dirk Wears White Socks". Thus, as a teenage fan of Adam and the Ants, I watched as many Dirk Bogarde movies as i could. (Not easy, at boarding school,in the U.S., in the '80's
For these arbitrary reasons, I vote for Dirk (wears white sox) Bogarde.
I'll Netflix the most popular suggestions from above, and contribute an answer the next time this thread is revived. 2010?!

aimurchie (aimurchie), Thursday, 18 January 2007 03:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I feel like i could answer a lot of threads with Adam and the Ants ephemera. I might try...

aimurchie (aimurchie), Thursday, 18 January 2007 04:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I love James Mason; he possessed the most beautiful voice in cinema.

so otm. i love how weary-yet-never-bored he always sounds.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 18 January 2007 09:24 (seventeen years ago) link

six months pass...

saw the seventh veil the other week, re-iterates masons position here

Filey Camp, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 12:11 (seventeen years ago) link

nine months pass...

Mandingo is out on DVD today, and Mason's master-of-the-plantation character is not softpedaled...

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 16:50 (sixteen years ago) link

I think Mason's probably the better actor but I just like Bogarde better.

Michael White, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 17:29 (sixteen years ago) link

doesn't Mason get to rub his feet on a darkie slave?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 18:04 (sixteen years ago) link

he RESTS his gouty feet on a small boy.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 18:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Mandingo is awful, but it pales compared to it's even more awful sequel: DRUM. Drum has a great opening theme though.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 18:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Mandingo is not awful; it's an obstreperous melodrama suiting its milieu much better than GWTW did.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 18:14 (sixteen years ago) link

So, in other words, unwatchable dreck.

Michael White, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 18:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Mason is masterful in A Star is Born.

roxymuzak, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 04:17 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

I don't get the "film folly" rep of Pandora and the Flying Dutchman -- a generally entrancing romantic fantasy, and sure Mason is sterling (he carries the whole 16th-century flashback, acting & narrating) but AVA GARDNER is good! with a long monologue on eternal love!

A Patch on Blazing Saddles (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 02:47 (fifteen years ago) link

ames Mason always seemed so remote and cold no matter what part he was playing

so much rong here

vulva eyes (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 02:48 (fifteen years ago) link

yes, that's madness.

In Pandora he clearly doesn't have his teeth capped -- they're either English or 400 years old.

A Patch on Blazing Saddles (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 02:54 (fifteen years ago) link

three years pass...

Young Mason is very sexy in The Man in Grey, available in this new Gainsborough melodramas box from Eclipse:

http://www.davekehr.com/?p=1472

http://www.slantmagazine.com/dvd/review/eclipse-series-36-three-wicked-melodramas-from-gainsborough-pictures/2456

crazy uncle in the attic (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 17:55 (twelve years ago) link

i love both of these guys! both easy in my top 10 actors.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 18:15 (twelve years ago) link

two years pass...

watched The Upturned Glass last night, Mason’s last British film before his departure for Hollywood. Screenplay cowritten by Mason’s costar and future wife, Pamela Kellino, who's the nasty femme. Lots of fun, splendid cast, not as much shadowplay as typical US genre standard.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 September 2015 20:07 (nine years ago) link

(it's in a British Noir disc set)

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 September 2015 20:07 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

i got drunk the other night and bought THREE dirk dvd sets. oof. still, 60% off. i can sell them at the store after i'm done watching them.

https://www.vcientertainment.com/Film-Categories?keyword=dirk&product_id=644

scott seward, Monday, 30 November 2015 02:42 (nine years ago) link

AGENT 8 ¾:
Dirk Bogarde, Sylvia Koscina and Robert Morley star in this satirical comedy-thriller at the height of the 007 popularity and set amidst the world of international espionage. Unemployed Nicolas Whistler accepts a job and a tidy salary with what he believes to be a glass manufacturing company in London. He soon discovers that his business behind the Iron Curtain is in fact illegal. Everyone apparently believes him to be a spy but it takes much time and adventure for him to realize it. The realization numbs him with horror, and with his contacts gone, he is on his own. He must escape arrest and flee to England but the secret police are close behind him. Robert Morley, as his boss is a scene stealer!
97 mins, Color, 1.78:1 / 16x9, 1964, Not Rated

CAMPBELL’S KINGDOM:
Bruce Campbell (Dirk Bogarde) is a young Englishman who believes himself to be incurably ill. He travels to Canada to take up his grandfather's inheritance, Campbell's Kingdom, a valley high in the Rockies. Here he intends to spend the last few months of his life. When he arrives in Come Lucky, an old ghost town which has lost the prosperity of its gold rush days, he is greeted with hostility by the men in the "Golden Calf” saloon. Owen Morgan, a contractor for Henry Fergus, tells him that his grandfather's death ended a deadlock in Come Lucky. The old man, King Campbell, believed there was oil in the valley. Therefore, he prevented Morgan from completing a dam and flooding the valley as part of a new hydro-electric scheme which would bring back prosperity. Now, since mining surveyor Boy Bladen's (Michael Craig) report shows that there is no chance of oil being found there, the Government has given permission for the flooding. Campbell chooses to take up where his grandfather left off and discover oil before the mining company can flood the valley!
102 mins, Color, 1.66:1 / 16x9, 1957, Not Rated

PENNY PRINCESS:
A young woman, Lindy Smith (Yolande Donlan), is surprised to discover she has inherited a vast fortune and a small European State from a distant relative. She sets off to take up her position as Princess but meanwhile has received none of her fortune. Then a young man, Tony (Dirk Bogarde), offers to help her market a local product throughout Europe to stave off the country’s bankruptcy. The plan is a success until other nations fear for their own industries and prohibit it. So the local folk decide to indulge in their favorite pastime - smuggling! When she legalizes it, all becomes even rosier, not only for the locals but for the romance blossoming between her and Tony.
94 mins, Technicolor, 1.33:1 / 4x3, 1952, Not Rated

SIMBA:
Brian Desmond Hurst directs this portrayal of the Mau Mau movement and uprising during the period between 1950 and 1956, in Kenya. Alan Howard (Dirk Bogarde) returns to Kenya to visit his brother and with hope of rekindling a romance with Mary Crawford (Virginia McKenna), whose family owns and operates a farm close to his brother’s. Arriving at his brother’s farm, Alan discovers he has been brutally murdered by the Mau Mau. Howard has absolutely no compassion for the black population and decides to stay on, against all odds, to defy the uprising. Tensions grow between Mary and Alan, brought on by his prejudice toward the native doctor Karanja (Earl Cameron), whom he believes is the Mau Mau leader and responsible for his brother’s murder. It’s not until Dr. Karanja sacrifices his own life to save Alan and Mary that the real Mau Mau leader is revealed and Alan begins to understand that the black population, as a whole, is not responsible. Tense drama with graphic and gritty action scenes. Simba, based on true events, was nominated for 3 BAFTA awards and the coveted United Nations award.
100 mins, Eastman Color, 1.33:1 / 4x3, 1955, Not Rated

scott seward, Monday, 30 November 2015 02:43 (nine years ago) link

An all-star cast spearheads this lesson in social realism. Jackie (Richard Attenborough) lives with his widowed mother and dreams of marrying Kitty, the girl across the street. In a bid to escape the poverty trap, he agrees to participate in a robbery, but when it goes wrong he is sentenced to three years in jail. There he meets various characters planning an escape, and although initially skeptical, he is persuaded by Alfie (Dirk Bogarde) to join the team. But what if their plan fails?
85 minutes | 1949 | B&W | Not Rated | English language | English Subtitles subtitles | 1.33:1 / 4x3 | Dolby Digital Mono | All Regions

Once a Jolly Swagman
Bill Fox (Dirk Bogarde) is tired of his job at the local factory. Against the wishes of his family and his girlfriend, Pat, he takes a job as a novice at the local speedway. Bill quickly gains attention at the track through his daring driving, and he meets Dotty, a glamorous society woman. As he moves into a new and exciting social circle, he quickly forgets Pat and his roots until he begins to quarrel with Dotty and he becomes aware of the shallowness of his existence.
103 minutes | 1948 | B&W | Not Rated | English language | English Subtitles | 1.37:1 | Dolby Digital Mono| Region 1

Hunted
After accidentally setting fire to his foster parents’ house, Robbie, a six-year-old boy, runs away. He searches for a hiding place and runs into a warehouse. Clattering down the steps, he accidently runs into the arms of a man, Chris Lloyd (Dirk Bogarde). Robbie sees a body lying nearby. Thinking that the boy will give him away to the police, Lloyd takes the boy with him and heads to the Scottish border. The more time they spend together, the closer they become, so when Robbie falls seriously ill, Lloyd has to make a difficult decision.
85 minutes | 1952 | B&W | NR | English language | English Subtitles subtitles | 1.37:1 / 4x3 | Dolby Digital 2.0 Mono | Region 1

Dear Mr Prohack
Arthur Prohack works in the treasury where he has the reputation of being ‘The Terror of the Departments’ due to his extremely rigid control of the public purse. When he suddenly comes into a private fortune, however, his personal finances prove exceedingly difficult to manage, along with his family!
90 minutes | 1949 | B&W | NR | English language | English Subtitles subtitles | 1.37:1 / 4x3 | Dolby Digital Mono | Region 1

scott seward, Monday, 30 November 2015 02:44 (nine years ago) link

High Bright Sun: A young American archaeologist of Cypriot parentage is visiting Cypriot friends who, unbeknown to her, are involved in the local terrorist racket. When she learns more than she should, her loyalty is divided between the Cypriots and the British, in the form of an intelligence major. It is his job to guard her, although she proves rather frosty, but despite this, the young major falls for her charms.

Spanish Gardner: Separated from his wife and embittered by lack of promotion, Harrington Brande (Michael Hordern) is posted to a small port in Spain. With him goes his young son Nicholas (Jon Whiteley), a shy boy forced to lead a quiet life by his domineering father. At their new home they meet their gardener, José (Dirk Bogarde), who strikes up a friendship with the boy. As Nicholas’s father realises this, out of jealousy, he bans them from speaking. Things go from bad to worse when Nicholas’s watch is stolen and planted on José, who is then arrested. Will his father realise the meaning of true friendship before it is too late?

Esther Waters: Released in the USA in an edited version titled “The Sin of Esther Waters,” this is the original un-cut UK version featuring Dirk Bogarde in his first starring role, playing a roguish character in this bodice-ripper set in Victorian England. The film also perfectly recreates details of the horse racing scene at the Derby.

Esther Waters (Kathleen Ryan) is a young woman living in 1880. Brought up by a puritanical mother, she leaves to become a servant in an aristocratic household. There she falls in love with the footman, William Latch (Bogarde), who seduces and then abandons her. Pregnant and alone, she returns to London to find her mother dead. With no one but herself for comfort she struggles to survive. A tale of the strength of the human spirit in the face of adversity.

King and Country: In this stirring anti-war film set during WWI, a tough, no-nonsense British Army lawyer (Dick Bogarde) is assigned to defend a lowly private (Tom Courtenay) at his court martial. The private has been accused of desertion during battle. The lawyer, Captain Hargreaves is convinced this young man should be executed. However, as the trial progresses and the strain of three horrible years endured at the Allied front is revealed, the more he is compelled to spare the youth from a firing squad.

scott seward, Monday, 30 November 2015 02:46 (nine years ago) link

I love James Mason; he possessed the most beautiful voice in cinema.

I have always been enthralled by his voice and as a teenager often attempted to mimic it -- unsuccessfully I should add. It was impossible to replicate adequately. Somehow it reminded me of caramel.

Aimless, Monday, 30 November 2015 05:54 (nine years ago) link

rewatched Mason in The Reckless Moment yesterday; brilliantly sells the hood with a heart of gold conceit.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 November 2015 13:31 (nine years ago) link

five months pass...

Mason, of course.

But, funnily enough, I was talking (at length) last night about "The Singer Not the Song", a ludicrous British pseudo western with Bogarde as gayest, and most well tailored, Mexican bandit of all time.

http://olivergwyther.com/dbog/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/db_001-signed-photo_31.jpg

While various other hoary English character actors struggle manfully with Mexican accents, Bogarde sticks stubbornly to his usual silky RADA approved one. And talking of accents, stodgy old John Mills is there too as a boring priest who is fighting a battle against his feelings for a teenage senorita, who is in fact a pouty blonde Bardot clone with a thick French accent. Mills fights an even tougher battle in the film though, with an Irish accent, a battle he loses more often than not.

http://olivergwyther.com/dbog/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/db_john_mills_003.jpg

I remember the first time I happened across this film, years and years ago, I was watching it with my brother and, after the last scene, we turned to each other as if to say, "This could not be more gay".

http://olivergwyther.com/dbog/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/db_mylene_demongeot_003.jpg

(Henry) Green container bin with face (Tom D.), Monday, 2 May 2016 17:10 (eight years ago) link

five years pass...

Was just reading about The Singer Not the Song, it sounds incredible. A Letterboxd review featured this from Bogarde:

"I've got the permed hair and I've got the caps in... I was supposed to be deeply in love with John Mills: you try that for the size...
So, I went off, and this is an innovation of my own: I covered myself from head to foot in black leather, skin-tight, before anybody else had tried it. I also had a whip with a duck's head in silver; I had white frilly shirts; I had specially made boots... with great big stirrups that I was frightened of falling over, and did; and a hat; and a different attitude to god than I'd had in all the other movies; and I also had a white persian cat: are you ready? 
Can you believe that not one single person in that bloody organisation knew what I was up to? So, I had a great love affair with me... They were shit-scared of me, so they let me wear the black leather... So I'm kind of fond of it; anyway, you'd better look at this piece of rubbish."

JoeStork, Friday, 26 November 2021 20:37 (three years ago) link

Rueful lol at the very first part. I seem to recall a great loss of interest in Great Expectations when Pip grew up to be John Mills.

Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 26 November 2021 20:49 (three years ago) link

I keep pointing out on here whenever "The Singer Not The Song" is on TV, which is fairly regularly, but nobody seems to bite.

When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Friday, 26 November 2021 22:09 (three years ago) link

this is an innovation of my own: I covered myself from head to foot in black leather, skin-tight, before anybody else had tried it.

Uh? Maybe not in a Hollywood movie, but the leather fetishists beat him to the punch by a good century or more.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 26 November 2021 22:15 (three years ago) link

... just noticed I was talking about it in this very thread, though the no doubt choice photos I chose to illustrate my comments seem to have disappeared.

When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Friday, 26 November 2021 22:20 (three years ago) link

_ this is an innovation of my own: I covered myself from head to foot in black leather, skin-tight, before anybody else had tried it. _

Uh? Maybe not in a Hollywood movie, but the leather fetishists beat him to the punch by a good century or more.

But did he do a whip dance? #OneThread

Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 26 November 2021 22:45 (three years ago) link

two years pass...

Pandora and the Flying Dutchman as well other Ava Gardner films on Criterion.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 January 2024 13:54 (eleven months ago) link

nine months pass...

"I'm not staying here in a place where they just chuck balls in your face!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WSQEdiLpSI

pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 October 2024 07:39 (two months ago) link

two months pass...

Love both these actors but have been on a Bogarde Jag lately, both the English heartthrob and European art movie phases. Just watched Night Porter, aspects of which have certainly dated not so well, but Bogarde is frankly incredible.

Zelda Zonk, Friday, 20 December 2024 11:55 (two days ago) link


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