Do you feel sorry for FAT people?

also, people are overweight for a variety of reasons

theres such a thing as being a mean spirited piece of shit also

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-- the river flee

My thoughts entirely

Some people like tall. Some people like petite. Some thin. Some fat. That's all cool.

But, you can't change your height or race. If you allow yourself to get obese, but then chronically complain to everyone within listening distance that the reasons why you didn't get: the job/the girl/ the guy, are because "I'm too fat", then I have NO sympathy.

I have a couple of overweight friends (over 100 pounds and counting) and their M.O. is watching Pay Per View Wrestling and eating Pork Rinds. They have high blood pressure, joint problems, sleep disorders...and every one of them is under 35 years of age. One friend, a female, is 'sick' from work at least one day per week, because of health issues. Sometimes, she says, "I don't want to do anything but sit inside with a pint of Hagen Daz and watch soaps." Yeah, that's cool...ON YOUR DAY OFF!!!!!!!!!! But, when your weight starts to control your life and your attitude towards life, why should others have to offer comfort to you and feel sad?

btw I'm not fat, so don't even think about feeling sorry for me

Uh, the vast majority of skinny people don't do that. Models, yes, regular people no.

A lot of skinny people do too, but they look good, so it doesn't matter.

(yes, myself included.)

so, have you written to the Palm County, FL DA to insure that Rush Limbaugh gets charged and indicted?

What about those people who have had few opportunities to take responsibility for their lives, have been given up on and become resigned to reality, don't they have a case for blaming others or blaming the social conditions that have stolen so much from them?

Again, this is bullshit to some extent.

5'6 190 is not obese.

I don't hate people for being fat. What difference does it make to me? (sucka: gluttons are not anymore significant a burden on society than any other non-farmers) But I do have a problem with some information that is commonly passed around as "fact". In the first place, your genes will NOT make you fat. Sorry, people, it doesn't work that way. Your genes may make it more likely that you will become obese. They may make your body absorb more nutrients from a certain amount of food than someone else. They may even make you feel hungry when you're not. But it is consuming more calories than you expend that makes you overweight. In MOST cases, diet and excercise can make you a healthy weight. In the second place, the idea that one has only to "accept" one's body seems to have reached epidemic proportions. Fat is more than an aesthetic issue. Realizing that beauty standards are relative is great and good. But if you are overweight, that is not okay. It is not healthy.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Proof positive that no one reads my posts!

I really do have a gland problem, my thyroid is fucked. I'm taking replacement hormone, but YOU try losing 60 lbs. It is NOT as easy as you think, and I'm not about to have my whole life revolve around it.

Funny thing is, I was wildly underweight as a kid/teen, to the point where I was mocked constantly. The universe has a sick sense of humor.

ding ding ding! that is the correct answer. i'm asking because that "lifestyle choices" comment i made above wasn't meant to be flip -- there's just this really unsettling phenomenon of people who have far too much investment in the "well being" of people they wouldn't otherwise give a shit about (like, they don't donate to charities or feed the homeless soup at christmas). it bothers me.

People who talk self-deprecatingly/pityingly about being underweight are lying (I used to do it too). You idiots, the internet has brought about a whole new "younger, flatter, bonier, tighter" ideal so do up some pigtails and there will ALWAYS be endless people that want to fuck you over overweighters. And please don't get pumped up/superior because you're skinny, because it's not like it takes much effort. "Oh, I have peanuts for personality, can't write for shit, have feeble little indie friends that can't fight, but at least I can make fun of fat people." I know I'll never get truly fat unless I start mainlining butter or something, so why get pissed at others who have a harder time of it?

I only feel sorry for highly overweight people on the dancefloor, because it's harder for them to bust moves with longevity. But that's it.

Controversy over 'fatties' sparks apology

Can one blog post spark a national debate? It happened yesterday, when Marie Claire writer Maura Kelly published a story titled “Should "Fatties" Get a Room?”

http://www.shine.yahoo.com/channel/health/controversy-over-fatties-sparks-apology-2404430/

sparks "apology"

the thing that really drives me nuts about this is that it's like a hair away from hate speech and will still ultimately will play out as a huge victory for marie claire. the editor will keep her job, the writer will keep her job, the mag will get tons of free attention, and the entire staff will benefit from a SHIT TON of traffic which they can then use to get mega-$$$ in advertising.

Writers say inflammatory things to get attention? No wonder I've been doing it wrong.

Okay, I don't think allowing a (former?) anorexic to write an article about overweight people is a good idea regardless of how you look at it.

good lord, that blog post is mean. her "apology" is too contrived and convenient.

also, what ned said. i know it's cool and edgy to write inflammatory things, but -- taken together -- that type of discourse has a real impact. it's the same type of nonsense that has commentators shouting slogans at each other on television, instead of discussing substance. it's the same type of nonsense that legitimizes the type of teasing and goading that leads some people to depression and even desparation.

sadly, i think whiney's right about the positive impact of all this on the magazine, and even the writer.

morbidly obese people not attractive, film from the neck down at 11

WTF is this. Wow. These writers sometimes...

i guess they don't have human editors for these things? the original article contains the phrase "heroine addict"

i mean, it is a magazine blog.

So, I can tell you from experience that no one looks at these AT ALL. And already overworked editors are expected to pump these out during the day all the time--in addition to their own work. So, yeah, this happens.

i figured as much...

Now, don't go getting the wrong impression: I have a few friends who could be called plump. I'm not some size-ist jerk.

lol

my first thought at looking at the link was, "when did John Goodman have a shaved head during the run of Roseanne?"

it really is a radical idea for a sitcom. most of them feature a fat guy paired with a bone-thin woman

#hopesup

What do you guys think? Fat people making out on TV — are you cool with it?

I do love how that sounds more like the title of an early-era ilx troll thread rather than the output of a professional journalist

To be brutally honest, even in real life, I find it aesthetically displeasing to watch a very, very fat person simply walk across a room — just like I'd find it distressing if I saw a very drunk person stumbling across a bar or a heroine addict slumping in a chair.

those drunks and junkies -- so aesthetically displeasing

would not be sad if this person gets hit by a very fat bus

just like I'd find it distressing if I saw a very drunk person stumbling across a bar or a heroine addict slumping in a chair.

hmmm, it really depends on what sort of chair it is, i suppose. nodding out and ikea don't mix imo

nodding off in an eames lounger is much preferred, yes

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lets go eat some godamn snacks.

If the whole problem is watching this TV show makes you uncomfortable then DON'T WATCH THE SHOW.

Well, she says that she doesn't watch TV.

Her paragraph-length aside about health and nutrition tips was kind of condescending, too.

marie claire sucks.

just last month they ran an article about how food bloggers are borderline anorexic and food obsessed

now this. what dumbasses. clearly need distribution numbers.

also that tv show does sound awful though. not because of the fat people making out, though.

what could possibly be awful about a laugh-track based sitcom in 2010?

was in a mexican restaurant the other day, sitting near a table of kids. at one point, i overheard one of the guys saying, "i know, she's lost a ton of weight and she looks great now, but i could never be her friend. she'll always be a far person to me." he seemed sincere. kind of a bummer.

skinny snacking

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