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Perhaps it's inevitable that at some point in the future (50 years?), posts made to ilx, as it is now and during the Greenspun era, will be compiled and published as a book (electronic, print or other). If copyright lies with each individual author of each post, how could this be viable: wouldn't each and every poster's permission need to be sought first?

― Alix W., Monday, 2 February 2004 12:35 (twenty years ago) link

I would imagine so, but if you post on the internet arent you fair game to be copied & reproduced?

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 2 February 2004 12:36 (twenty years ago) link

(I meant from posting in a forum pov)

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 2 February 2004 12:38 (twenty years ago) link

Erm, that's right mate!

― Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 2 February 2004 12:40 (twenty years ago) link

quite what makes you think this concept may be inevitable i don't know. i wouldn't object to anything i've posted here being republished in a book without my permission though - i'm unsure about royalties, 0.03p per quote perhaps

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 2 February 2004 12:45 (twenty years ago) link

ILE Vol 5: The Troll Invasions (Random House, $19.99)

'Unputdownable' -- TLS

― Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 2 February 2004 12:47 (twenty years ago) link

Outselling "Feeble putdowns" by Henry K. Miller

― Alix W., Monday, 2 February 2004 12:51 (twenty years ago) link

"because, at the end of the day, we ARE all gay!" - Greer (either)

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 2 February 2004 12:56 (twenty years ago) link

Seriously, Alix -- who would reprint this shit?

― Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 2 February 2004 13:32 (twenty years ago) link

all the C-man threads can be a serial on ZOO magazine.

― ken c (ken c), Monday, 2 February 2004 13:39 (twenty years ago) link

These are terrifying visions.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 February 2004 16:06 (twenty years ago) link

I really can't imagine an occaison that would warrant someone wanting to publish bits of ilx, unless it was a clinical psychology book using excerpts to illustrate different mental disorders and/or pathologies.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Monday, 2 February 2004 17:58 (twenty years ago) link

Whose textbook would be the thickest, though? Not C-Man - "the guy's a stone cold wanker" wouldn't last beyond the dedication page.

― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 2 February 2004 18:12 (twenty years ago) link

You could wait until we're all dead.

― Huck Stable (Horace Mann), Monday, 2 February 2004 18:13 (twenty years ago) link

I could most definitely imagine a Dan Perry's Guide to Pervifying Your Mind and Laughing at Things sitting on my coffee table.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 2 February 2004 18:14 (twenty years ago) link

HI DERE! Feel free to publish my stuff.

― THE AMAZING DAVE B (daveb), Monday, 2 February 2004 18:15 (twenty years ago) link

actually, an ILM thread was published a couple of years in a Da Capo anthology without the permission of several "authors", and - in my case anyway - despite my specific request not to be included.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Monday, 2 February 2004 18:17 (twenty years ago) link

And, from what I understand, some of you still haven't gotten your $.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 2 February 2004 18:28 (twenty years ago) link

I was wondering the other day how, if someone ever writes my biography (don't laugh, the poet Jeremy Reed is supposed to be writing one right now, though it seems to be in pause mode: waiting for me to snuff it, perhaps?), they will handle my 'ILX Years'? I imagine a chapter heading along the lines of 'In The Wilderness of Opinion', followed by the opening lines of Dante's Inferno:

"In the middle of life’s journey, I found myself in a dark forest..."

― Momus (Momus), Monday, 2 February 2004 19:00 (twenty years ago) link

"...the ground covered in bootyflakes and the sky rapt in asshats."

― Huck Stable (Horace Mann), Monday, 2 February 2004 19:03 (twenty years ago) link

Asshats off to a man who knows his Dante!

― Momus (Momus), Monday, 2 February 2004 19:14 (twenty years ago) link

(I believe that's the Tosches translation!)

― Huck Stable (Horace Mann), Monday, 2 February 2004 19:15 (twenty years ago) link

Truly a triumph of verse!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 February 2004 19:31 (twenty years ago) link

("And then we went upstairs and made love like panthers.")

― Huck Stable (Horace Mann), Monday, 2 February 2004 19:42 (twenty years ago) link

Momus will probably be in the colour photo pages in the middle along with various Ned photoshop efforts.

Every chapter will start:

"This is the chapter where..."

― jel -- (jel), Monday, 2 February 2004 20:06 (twenty years ago) link

Just to clarify, the Tosches reference I tried to make was wrong. Here is the correct passage from In the Hand of Dante:

"Up in the room, we make love like leopards."

― Huck Stable (Horace Mann), Monday, 2 February 2004 20:12 (twenty years ago) link

An ILX book would be U&K. It could have a glossary explaining key words and phrases! And a fold-out world map telling people where people lived IRL! I'm excited already.

However, in the true spirit of things, the writing would have to be microfiche-sized with 16 columns per page.

But then bring out a series! And a Best Of!

Oh, the possibilities?

Right, which threads of are going in?

Off the bat, the 9/11 ones, the suicide one, and (on a lighter note) a few of the Best Of threads that are wandering round at the mo.

― Johnney B, Monday, 2 February 2004 20:24 (twenty years ago) link

Isn't ILM the Sniffin' Glue of the new millenium?

Two points to make:

1) Use that quote in the book, future-editors.
2) Make sure you include the desperate tone of self-aware journo-twat doing irony badly and cultural awareness too well.

― Jim Robinson (Original Miscreant), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 17:57 (twenty years ago) link

actually, an ILM thread was published a couple of years in a Da Capo anthology without the permission of several "authors", and - in my case anyway - despite my specific request not to be included.

??? I didn't hear about this - which thread?

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 18:00 (twenty years ago) link

Every chapter will start:

"This is the chapter where..."

Please not! Worst ILE meme ever (in that it just reminds me of the Friends 'The one where..' episode titling annoyingness.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 18:05 (twenty years ago) link

Pashmina, it was excerpts from NYLPM response: The Strokes Coverage

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 18:06 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...

Ha! Nobody would publish this stuff.

― sandy al, Friday, 19 March 2004 12:00 (twenty years ago) link

no, nobody would read it.

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 19 March 2004 12:09 (twenty years ago) link

Mark S and Marcello Carlin to thread!

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 19 March 2004 12:12 (twenty years ago) link

I did 'publish' one thread as a book on Cafepress, back a while ago. I did ask permission of a few (major) contributors, all said no problem, one opposed quite forcefully. So I deleted it (after printing one copy for me). It was just to test out their 'perfect' binding, and see the overall quality of it.

Other notes on the said item:
1) it was Unpublishable really, as many unverifiable accusations around the two individuals being discussed, and the 'disses' against two (or more) contibutors against each other.

A shame, it was a 'pocket' edition summary of how ILX works, and read a bit like a radio play.

I haven't said which thread, respecting the wishes of the original objector.

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 19 March 2004 12:17 (twenty years ago) link

I'm still amazed that the whole of ILX is always available with all the posts intact, and without ads, popup or otherwise. That's gotta be one hefty database, yeah?

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 19 March 2004 14:06 (twenty years ago) link

It wasn't so long ago that it fitted on a single CD-R (someone sent it to Graham). Text databases are nothing really.

― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 19 March 2004 14:30 (twenty years ago) link

I've volunteered before to start up a publishing company to be called ILXpress, to publish anything deemed worthy of being preserved on dead trees, on a not-for-profit basis.

― j.lu (j.lu), Friday, 19 March 2004 16:12 (twenty years ago) link

americans really don't say 'non-profit'?

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 19 March 2004 16:21 (twenty years ago) link

Vanity publishing in its most literal form :)

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 19 March 2004 16:33 (twenty years ago) link

my last post?

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 19 March 2004 16:39 (twenty years ago) link

Some Americans say "non-profit". Others are asshats.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 19 March 2004 16:43 (twenty years ago) link

nick, you are stealing my schtick.

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 19 March 2004 16:45 (twenty years ago) link

Is there a concept of 'non-profit' in the US?

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 19 March 2004 16:47 (twenty years ago) link

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