Coffee, you nasty bitch, you've saved your flesh for later!

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I had been addicted to coffee since I was a freshman in college, and onlymonths ago I FINALLy kicked the habit, and now I drink tea. THen suddenly all these reports come out about how good coffee is for you, but I really dont want to start drinking it again due to the addiction issue. I always knew there was someting healty about coffee and now my suspicions are confirmed.
I'm not sure if I should slurp the demon bitchblood again or stay in the world of tea. I'm sort of afriad of being sucked to her bosom again, forever.

Mike Hanle y (mike), Monday, 2 February 2004 13:50 (twenty years ago) link

and now I need another coffee. Thanks!

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 2 February 2004 13:51 (twenty years ago) link

Tea has as much caffeine as coffee = you have not kicked the habit after all, you just think you have = you may return guilt-free to the ample bosom of your comely coffee wench.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 2 February 2004 13:52 (twenty years ago) link

I thought caffeine isn't an addictive substance anyway! It's all in the mind, man!

ken c (ken c), Monday, 2 February 2004 13:55 (twenty years ago) link

tea is pretty darn good for you.

teeny (teeny), Monday, 2 February 2004 13:57 (twenty years ago) link

How are we defining addiction?

Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 2 February 2004 13:58 (twenty years ago) link

must to savor the darkened fleshjuice!

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 2 February 2004 14:05 (twenty years ago) link

Tea has as much caffeine as coffee per (dry) weight, but is massively more diluted per cup.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 2 February 2004 14:10 (twenty years ago) link

If you want to live in the modern world without coffee, sugar, and alcohol, well, good luck pal. One day without at least one representative of the unholy trinity is sufficient to bring forth the realisation that we are all mad.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 2 February 2004 14:13 (twenty years ago) link

I never really started drinking coffee on any semblance of a regular basis until I got married (my wife is a confirmed coffee addict). Now, however, it's slowly becoming more difficult to start the day without it.

My biggest problem with coffee, however, is the relatively instantaneous effect it has on one's....ahem...digestive system, if you catch my drift.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 2 February 2004 14:56 (twenty years ago) link

(i.e. coffee.....quicker than drano).

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 2 February 2004 14:56 (twenty years ago) link

ew.
my beef with coffee is that if i drink it more than 2 days in a row i'll get a headache if i don't have it again. that = coffee bad (for me at least). so don't do it¡ just say no¡ try hugs, not drugs¡ etc.

dyson (dyson), Monday, 2 February 2004 15:01 (twenty years ago) link

I rfer to this:
Coffee: The New Health Food?
Plenty of health benefits are brewing in America's beloved beverage, coffee.

By Sid Kirchheimer


Reviewed By Brunilda Nazario, MD
on Monday, January 26, 2004
WebMD Feature

Want a drug that could lower your risk of diabetes, Parkinson's disease, and colon cancer? That could lift your mood and treat headaches? That could lower your risk of cavities?


If it sounds too good to be true, think again.


Coffee, the much maligned but undoubtedly beloved beverage, just made headlines for possibly cutting the risk of the latest disease epidemic, type 2 diabetes. And the real news seems to be that the more you drink, the better.


Reducing Disease Risk


After analyzing data on 126,000 people for as long as 18 years, Harvard researchers calculate that compared with not partaking in America's favorite morning drink, downing one to three cups of caffeinated coffee daily can reduce diabetes risk by single digits. But having six cups or more each day slashed men's risk by 54% and women's by 30% over java avoiders.


Though the scientists give the customary "more research is needed" before they recommend you do overtime at Starbuck's to specifically prevent diabetes, their findings, reported just two weeks ago, are very similar to those in a less-publicized Dutch study last year. And perhaps more importantly, it's the latest of hundreds of studies suggesting that coffee may be something of a health food -- especially in higher amounts.


In recent decades, some 19,000 studies have been done examining coffee's impact on health. And for the most part, their results are as pleasing as a gulp of freshly brewed Breakfast Blend for the 108 million Americans who routinely enjoy this traditionally morning -- and increasingly daylong -- ritual. In practical terms, regular coffee drinkers include the majority of U.S. adults and a growing number of children.


"Overall, the research shows that coffee is far more healthful than it is harmful," says Tomas DePaulis, PhD, research scientist at Vanderbilt University's Institute for Coffee Studies, which conducts its own medical research and tracks coffee studies from around the world. "For most people, very little bad comes from drinking it, but a lot of good."


Consider this: At least six studies indicate that people who drink coffee on a regular basis are up to 80% less likely to develop Parkinson's, with three showing the more they drink, the lower the risk. Other research shows that compared to not drinking coffee, at least two cups daily can translate to a 25% reduced risk of colon cancer, an 80% drop in liver cirrhosis risk, and nearly half the risk of gallstones.


Coffee even offsets some of the damage caused by other vices, some research indicates. "People who smoke and are heavy drinkers have less heart disease and liver damage when they regularly consume large amounts of coffee compared to those who don't," says DePaulis.


There's also some evidence that coffee may help manage asthma and even control attacks when medication is unavailable, stop a headache, boost mood, and even prevent cavities.


The Benefits of Caffeine


Is it the caffeine? The oodles of antioxidants in coffee beans, some of which become especially potent during the roasting process? Even other mysterious properties that warrant this intensive study?


Actually, yes.


Some of coffee's reported benefits are a direct result of its higher caffeine content: An eight ounce cup of drip-brewed coffee contains about 85 mg -- about three and a half times more than the same serving of tea or cola or one ounce of chocolate.

"The evidence is very strong that regular coffee consumption reduces risk of Parkinson's disease and for that, it's directly related to caffeine," DePaulis tells WebMD. "In fact, Parkinson's drugs are now being developed that contain a derivative of caffeine based on this evidence."


Caffeine is also what helps in treating asthma and headaches. Though not widely publicized, a single dose of pain reliever such as Anacin or Excedrin contains up to 120 milligrams -- what's in a hefty mug o' Joe.

It's also caffeine -- and not coffee, per se -- that makes java a powerful aid in enhancing athletic endurance and performance, says physiologist and longtime coffee researcher Terry Graham, PhD, of the University of Guelph in Canada. So powerful, in fact, that until recently, caffeine in coffee or other forms was deemed a "controlled" substance by the Olympic Games Committee, meaning that it could be consumed only in small, designated amounts by competing athletes.

"What caffeine likely does is stimulate the brain and nervous system to do things differently," he tells WebMD. "That may include signaling you to ignore fatigue or recruit extra units of muscle for intense athletic performance. Caffeine may even have a direct effect on muscles themselves, causing them to produce a stronger contraction. But what's amazing about it is that unlike some performance-enhancing manipulation some athletes do that are specific for strength or sprinting or endurance, studies show that caffeine positively enhances all of these things."

In other words, consume enough caffeine -- whether it's from coffee or another source -- and you will likely run faster, last longer and be stronger. What's enough? As little as one cup can offer some benefit, but the real impact comes from at least two mugs, says Graham. By comparison, it'd take at least eight glasses of cola to get the same effect, which isn't exactly conducive for running a marathon.

But the harder you exercise, the more benefit you may get from coffee. "Unfortunately, where you see the enhancing effects from caffeine is in hard-working athletes, who are able to work longer and somewhat harder," says Graham, who has studied the effects of caffeine and coffee for nearly two decades. "If you a recreational athlete who is working out to reduce weight or just feel better, you're not pushing yourself hard enough to get an athletic benefit from coffee or other caffeinated products."

But you can get other others benefits from coffee that have nothing to do with caffeine. "Coffee is loaded with antioxidants, including a group of compounds called quinines that when administered to lab rats, increases their insulin sensitivity" he tells WebMD. This increased sensitivity improves the body's response to insulin.


That may explain why in that new Harvard study, those drinking decaf coffee but not tea beverages also showed a reduced diabetes risk, albeit it was half as much as those drinking caffeinated coffee.


"We don't know exactly why coffee is beneficial for diabetes," lead researcher Frank Hu, MD, tells WebMD. "It is possible that both caffeine and other compounds play important roles. Coffee has large amounts of antioxidants such as chlorogenic acid and tocopherols, and minerals such as magnesium. All these components have been shown to improve insulin sensitivity and glucose metabolism."


Meanwhile, Italian researchers credit another compound called trigonelline, which gives coffee its aroma and bitter taste, for having both antibacterial and anti-adhesive properties to help prevent dental cavities from forming. There are other theories for other conditions.


Children and Coffee


How does this brew affect growing minds and bodies? Very nicely, it seems, says DePaulis. Coffee, as you probably know, makes you more alert, which can boost concentration. But claims that it improves a child's academic performance can be exaggerated. Coffee-drinking kids may do better on school tests because they're more awake, but most task-to-task lab studies suggest that coffee doesn't really improve mental performance, says DePaulis.


But it helps kids' minds in another way. "There recently was a study from Brazil finding that children who drink coffee with milk each day are less likely to have depression than other children," he tells WebMD. "In fact, no studies show that coffee in reasonable amounts is in any way harmful to children."


On the flip side, it's clear that coffee isn't for everyone. Its legendary jolt in excess doses -- that is, more than whatever your individual body can tolerate -- can increase nervousness, hand trembling, and cause rapid heartbeat. Coffee may also raise cholesterol levels in some people and may contribute to artery clogging. But most recent large studies show no significant adverse affects on most healthy people, although pregnant women, heart patients, and those at risk for osteoporosis may still be advised to limit or avoid coffee.


The bottom line: "People who already drink a lot of coffee don't have to feel 'guilty' as long as coffee does not affect their daily life," says Hu. "They may actually benefit from coffee habits in the long-run."


Published Jan. 26, 2004.

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SOURCES: Tomas DePaulis, PhD, research scientist, Vanderbilt University's Institute for Coffee Studies; research assistant professor of psychiatry, Vanderbilt University Medical Center, Nashville. Terry Graham, PhD, University of Guelph, Canada. Frank Hu, MD, PhD, associate professor of nutrition and epidemiology, Harvard School of Public Health, Boston. Hu, F. Annals of Internal Medicine, January 2004; vol 140; pp 1-8. Benedetti MD, Neurology, July 12, 2000; vol 55; pp 1350-1358. Ross, G. The Journal of the American Medical Association, May 24, 2000; vol 283; pp 2674-2679. Gazzani, G. Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry, Feb. 27, 2000. Leitzmann, M. The Journal of the American Medical Association, June 9, 1999, vol 281; pp 2106-2122. Giovannucci, E. American Journal of Epidemiology, June 1, 1998; vol 147; pp 1043-1052. Pagano, R. Chest, August 1988; vol 94; pp 387-389.
© 2004 WebMD Inc. All rights reserved.

Mike Hanle y (mike), Monday, 2 February 2004 15:08 (twenty years ago) link

Caffeine also kicks my tinnitus up a shrill notch, if certain facts are to be believed.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 2 February 2004 15:10 (twenty years ago) link

a link to that article woulda been fine, too.

i don't really drink coffee anymore. the acids in the coffee & chocolate(and the caffiene) tend to have detrimental effects on my stomach lining & digestive system.

Kingfish Funyun (Kingfish), Monday, 2 February 2004 15:12 (twenty years ago) link

I've heard hear the oils in coffee can irritate the anus on exit! Maxwell House never told me that.

Mike Hanle y (mike), Monday, 2 February 2004 15:20 (twenty years ago) link

Good to the last drop.

Bryan (Bryan), Monday, 2 February 2004 15:21 (twenty years ago) link

The Secrets of The `House are only now coming to light!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 2 February 2004 15:21 (twenty years ago) link

Oh my god! Knowing this, how can I still think of my massive coffee consumption as a self-destructive vice? I must find a new vice then so it would seem!

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 2 February 2004 15:26 (twenty years ago) link

I always had this intuition that coffee was somehow good for you , despite doctors warnings, and m=now my brilliant work is stolen.

Mike Hanle y (mike), Monday, 2 February 2004 16:18 (twenty years ago) link

Since I've started drinking caffeine again my tinnitis has gotten a ton worse. Most of the time I don't notice while at work, where I drink most of the caffeine, because of all the machine tone. Then I get home to my v. quiet apartment and it gets VERY bad.

I'm glad actually that I clicked this thread and that Alex brought it up because I had forgotten that one tidbit about caffeine intake and had been worried for a bit that I was experiencing serious hearing issues for no reason.

Actually the high caffeine and sugar intake of late may be responsible for quite a few of my recently spawned health issues. Excessive muscle soreness, for example.

TOMBOT, Monday, 2 February 2004 16:58 (twenty years ago) link

No (dis)charge, Tom

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 2 February 2004 17:01 (twenty years ago) link

i always felt coffee was bad for me. before i even got the headaches - i always had a feeling it wasn't doing anything good for my body.
i find this article quite surprising really.
what's next¿
"smoking cigarettes - new miracle cure for lymphoma and gonorrhea¡"

dyson (dyson), Monday, 2 February 2004 17:09 (twenty years ago) link

actually the muscle soreness could be attributable to calcium loss due to caffeine intake! or the nonstop freaky shit.

teeny (teeny), Monday, 2 February 2004 17:19 (twenty years ago) link

My quadriceps are like wo

TOMBOT, Monday, 2 February 2004 17:26 (twenty years ago) link

...a message from the Coffee Distributors of America

Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Monday, 2 February 2004 19:18 (twenty years ago) link

if coffee and cigarettes are healthy, then i'm one very healthy motherfucker.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 2 February 2004 19:26 (twenty years ago) link

In the past couple of weeks, I've tried to kick the coffee habit because I have some health problems that caffeine seems to exacerbate. So I've switched to tea. I like tea a lot, but it's just not the same. I find myself really craving coffee. I suppose I could switch to decaf but decaf has always seemed kind of stupid and pointless to me.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Monday, 2 February 2004 20:17 (twenty years ago) link

Kinda like non-alcoholic beer.

luna (luna.c), Monday, 2 February 2004 20:22 (twenty years ago) link

Caffeine is not a friendly thing. Thyroid, breast lumps, blood presure issues, etc. No matter what the reports say about coffee, your body is better off without the whomp of caffeine.

Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Monday, 2 February 2004 20:24 (twenty years ago) link

Yes, I agree about the whomp, but what of the bobbaloobop? And the whomp bam boom?

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 2 February 2004 20:29 (twenty years ago) link

I'm thinking you may not be the most convincing pro-caffeine spokesperson at the moment.

teeny (teeny), Monday, 2 February 2004 22:17 (twenty years ago) link

But it is still a vision.

(Tea is definitely the way to go.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 February 2004 22:19 (twenty years ago) link

"Though the scientists give the customary "more research is needed" before they recommend...."

grrr!

isadora (isadora), Monday, 2 February 2004 22:24 (twenty years ago) link

The way to go is a big mug with one part lowfat milk to one part tap water with a heaping tablespoon of instant coffee and a packet of hot chocolate mix.

Plus a camel or two and some techno records.

TOMBOT, Monday, 2 February 2004 22:25 (twenty years ago) link

"Though the scientists give the customary "more research is needed" before they recommend...."

How much more research? Cause I'll totally drink 10+ cups a day for science. Might as well let someone other than myself benefit from my consumption.

martin m. (mushrush), Monday, 2 February 2004 23:44 (twenty years ago) link

Don't forget :

Drinking coffee makes sperm swim faster and could improve male fertility.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 2 February 2004 23:55 (twenty years ago) link

i actually drink more tea than coffee. tea is easier to make -- hot water and a bag, that's it!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 00:48 (twenty years ago) link

Have you tried Nescafé? It's a snap!

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 00:50 (twenty years ago) link

but it tastes like shitwater!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 00:52 (twenty years ago) link

Shitwater get a bad rap.

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 00:55 (twenty years ago) link

Grind coffee*
Put filter into coffeemaker**
Put coffee into coffeemaker
Put water into coffeemaker
Turn coffeemaker on
Wait

With coffee, there's no dunking or making sure you don't leave the bag in for too long or too short a time. I think coffee & tea are about equally simple to make.

I don't get the tea/coffee dichotomy. They are both useful.

* optional/not required (depending on your preference)
** optional/not required (depending on style of coffeemaker)

martin m. (mushrush), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 01:24 (twenty years ago) link

I haven't had coffee at all today and I feel fine but otoh I smoked like 2 packs of cigarettes today.

Allyzay, Tuesday, 3 February 2004 01:28 (twenty years ago) link

Cigarettes are easier than coffee or tea.

martin m. (mushrush), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 01:34 (twenty years ago) link

Yes, but they don't increase your fertility.

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 01:38 (twenty years ago) link

That's not exactly a negative there, N.

Allyzay, Tuesday, 3 February 2004 01:40 (twenty years ago) link

Speak for yourself.

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 01:41 (twenty years ago) link

Touche.

martin m. (mushrush), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 01:41 (twenty years ago) link

(NB. I have no idea how fertile I am)

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 01:41 (twenty years ago) link

I know how much coffee I drink and how many cigarettes I smoke each day... is there a formula that will allow me to calculate fertility?

martin m. (mushrush), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 01:42 (twenty years ago) link

different plumbing, and different content in the tubes.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 01:42 (twenty years ago) link

I believe I was speaking for myself, you procreationist.

Allyzay, Tuesday, 3 February 2004 01:43 (twenty years ago) link

i was actually taking yer side!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 01:45 (twenty years ago) link

I wasn't talking to you! I was talking to that breeder Dastoor!

Allyzay, Tuesday, 3 February 2004 01:46 (twenty years ago) link

Come do the procreationist sperm dash with me!

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 01:47 (twenty years ago) link

(nb. that was directed at all, as a rallying cry, not a creepy request to Ally)

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 01:47 (twenty years ago) link

YEAH RIGHT!

Allyzay, Tuesday, 3 February 2004 01:48 (twenty years ago) link

you've not been to americay, have ye mr. n?

try that one in a singles bar (llamasfur), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 01:50 (twenty years ago) link

I'm actually kinda surprised this thread didn't turn into a pissing match about who loves coffee the most or a tea vs. coffee. Perhaps I have underestimated ILE again.

martin m. (mushrush), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 01:50 (twenty years ago) link

in a pinch, i'd take coffee.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 01:52 (twenty years ago) link

I have been to New York, but I was not of a rallying mind in those days.

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 01:53 (twenty years ago) link

on the other hand, it's so much harder to fuck up a cuppa tea to the point where it's undrinkable. whereas it's easier beyond belief to fuck up coffee, to the point where a cuppa raw sewage tastes better.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 01:54 (twenty years ago) link

Okay, I concede on that point. People who don't know how to make good coffee often really don't know how to make good coffee.

martin m. (mushrush), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 01:55 (twenty years ago) link

what about "coffee enemas" ? has anyone ever felt this style was correct? coudl lstarbucks have a coffee enema kit?

Mike Hanle y (mike), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 02:55 (twenty years ago) link

ewwwww

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 03:02 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
REVIVE

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 20:05 (nineteen years ago) link

What, with a coffee enema?

thee music mole, Wednesday, 16 February 2005 20:12 (nineteen years ago) link

NAUGHTY MUSIC MOLE ... DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH!!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 20:16 (nineteen years ago) link

What, with a coffee enema?

Fill it to the rim!

j.lu (j.lu), Thursday, 17 February 2005 02:20 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll never drink a coffee again.

Damn, now I want a coffee.

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 17 February 2005 02:27 (nineteen years ago) link

three years pass...

conscious decision to cut back. day 2 of only one coffee first thing in the morning. after that, green tea.
it is sort of painful.
but i feel better.

rrrobyn, Friday, 22 August 2008 18:03 (sixteen years ago) link

what's so healthy about coffee?

i just love the taste :D i don't even care about the caffeine really, actually it makes me nervous

Surmounter, Friday, 22 August 2008 18:04 (sixteen years ago) link

i love the taste too! and i care about the caffeine
it totally makes me into crazy tho

rrrobyn, Friday, 22 August 2008 18:09 (sixteen years ago) link

i've become obsessed with just milk, no sugar. or black (i feel like i was just going over this in chatz or somewhere)

Surmounter, Friday, 22 August 2008 18:18 (sixteen years ago) link

(ya chatz)

Surmounter, Friday, 22 August 2008 18:19 (sixteen years ago) link

SOY MILK is A++ great in coffee, also ALMOND MILK

elmo argonaut, Friday, 22 August 2008 18:20 (sixteen years ago) link

almond milk is really tasty but isn't it kind of clumpy for coffee?

Surmounter, Friday, 22 August 2008 18:20 (sixteen years ago) link

i have tried these imposters, and thought i enjoyed them, but then i realized that the truth is:
organic whole milk all the freakin way

rrrobyn, Friday, 22 August 2008 18:22 (sixteen years ago) link

ok now u r makin me want coffee and the source of all my issues, the office espresso machine, is so close, so close

rrrobyn, Friday, 22 August 2008 18:23 (sixteen years ago) link

whole milk otm. sometimes if i'm crazy, cream

Surmounter, Friday, 22 August 2008 18:23 (sixteen years ago) link

i just can't do skim in coffee, it really upsets me

Surmounter, Friday, 22 August 2008 18:23 (sixteen years ago) link

i was all into cream for a couple of months but it was making me feel uhh and bloaty. fun facts

rrrobyn, Friday, 22 August 2008 18:25 (sixteen years ago) link

same thing happened to me! was into it for a few months too. like drinking it was wow, but it was a bit heavy

Surmounter, Friday, 22 August 2008 18:26 (sixteen years ago) link

i dunno, i really don't like the fatty flavor of whole milk or cream, not as much as i used to at least! i feel it tends to overpower the flavor of the bean.

soy milk (chocolate variety, if you dirty) has a mild nutty flavor, almond milk moreso, that i find more complimentary

elmo argonaut, Friday, 22 August 2008 18:27 (sixteen years ago) link

i do like almond milk in coffee for a lighter flavor, it's true. maybe i will go back to it, since my milk just went off
weird thing is that i drink more coffee on the wkends bc i am home in the morning and so i make a thing (stovetop espresso maker) of coffee at least twice. and it is strong. and then i feel crazy.

rrrobyn, Friday, 22 August 2008 18:38 (sixteen years ago) link

people hand me coffee when I walk into the office! so good.

o-ess, Friday, 22 August 2008 18:48 (sixteen years ago) link

h8ing soy milk in coffee, but it is not as bad (by a long shot) as soy milk in Earl Grey

Abbott, Friday, 22 August 2008 19:17 (sixteen years ago) link

i relegate my coffee consumption to caffeine emergencies only, which translates to about 2 or 3 times a month. this keeps my tolerance crazy low, so when I do take it (no cream, no sugar, just straight up and usually only about 8 oz) I am on the fucking moon. it is AWESOME.

will, Friday, 22 August 2008 19:38 (sixteen years ago) link

i remember those days

rrrobyn, Friday, 22 August 2008 19:44 (sixteen years ago) link

i've had coffee today & yesterday after being off the junk for awhile

bell_labs, Friday, 22 August 2008 19:51 (sixteen years ago) link

I no longer drink coffee bcz it upsets my tum-tums BUT if I go even a day w/out coca-cola classic I get mad withdrawal headaches. There's no winning.

Abbott, Friday, 22 August 2008 22:02 (sixteen years ago) link

the only lingering effect of my one-year vegan experiment was learning to drink coffee black. and like it! sometimes i get one with milk by accident and it's not bad, but it doesn't taste like coffee to me. (and the way my wife drinks it, half+half plus sugar, tastes like a milkshake.)

i find that the occasional stomach upsets from too-much-coffee are greatly reduced by taking the lactose out of it. not to mention it makes it pretty much guilt-free on the calorie side.

tipsy mothra, Friday, 22 August 2008 22:21 (sixteen years ago) link

It's pretty much the meds + cigarettes + black coffee + oops forgot to eat combo that wipes out my poor stomach. Maybe all the blame does not belong to the coffee, but when it's added to the mix, I get literally nauseous.

Abbott, Friday, 22 August 2008 22:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Black, strong. Fuck a milk and sugar. Coffeeeeee.

DavidM, Friday, 22 August 2008 22:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Double espresso, early in the morning. Almost never any caffeine after that with the exception of small amounts in mint tea and larger amounts in chocolate.

Michael White, Friday, 22 August 2008 22:36 (sixteen years ago) link

i usually have 2-3 cups in the morning, one or 2 in the afternoon, often one in the early evening. (then red wine to bring myself down...)

tipsy mothra, Friday, 22 August 2008 22:42 (sixteen years ago) link

i have been on soy milk lately and am really enjoying it! do not like regular milk. it just tastes bizarre to me either it's too light and makes everything weird or it's too fatty/heavy and makes things seem filmy. ew. filmy is gross word.

lately i have been on: 1 mug at home in am, 1 travel mug that i drink when i get to work, 1 diet coke at lunch. probably too much caffeine, huh. i LOVE weekends when i can make a pot and just sit around and relax and drink it.

tehresa, Friday, 22 August 2008 23:31 (sixteen years ago) link

I stopped drinking it because it was destroying my tum too and making me have migraines. The last two days I have had a small coffee in the morning and it has been ok. I know I should switch back to green tea before I am drawn back in though.

I used to drink insane amouts of coffee in highschool. I worked at a coffee shop and for awhile I would fill a nalgene bottle with espresso to bring to school the next day!

bell_labs, Saturday, 23 August 2008 01:47 (sixteen years ago) link

plain black coffee. strong. wondering once again if i should try to quit, or at least switch to decaf, because i get a headache and horribly moody and short tempered if i don't have a cup every morning

daria-g, Saturday, 23 August 2008 03:23 (sixteen years ago) link

i did a 2-week coffee fast a few years ago, just to sort of test my level of dependency. i didn't really notice that much of a difference. had a few mild headaches, felt a little more tired toward the end of the day. basically i could function fine without it. but knowing that, why would i? i like it.

tipsy mothra, Saturday, 23 August 2008 04:36 (sixteen years ago) link

On the down side are coffee's well-documented side effects: anxiety, insomnia, tremor and irregular heartbeat. It can also irritate the digestive system, bladder and prostate. If you experience any of these effects, you're better off avoiding coffee (and decaf, which contains substances that may contribute to the symptoms) no matter what potential health benefits it may have. The way coffee affects you is your surest guide to whether or not you should be drinking it at all and, if so, how much.

Andrew Weil, M.D. (heartbreaker)

tremendoid, Saturday, 23 August 2008 07:26 (sixteen years ago) link

i read this today and am curious do some people actually not get these effects? i thought it was something you gotta just power through into the plateau of addiction but i don't seem to be making "progress"

tremendoid, Saturday, 23 August 2008 07:29 (sixteen years ago) link

I thought I got anxiety if I didn't drink it. I find it hard to connect the symptoms.

o-ess, Saturday, 23 August 2008 10:19 (sixteen years ago) link


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