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My biggest problem with coffee, however, is the relatively instantaneous effect it has on one's....ahem...digestive system, if you catch my drift.
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― dyson (dyson), Monday, 2 February 2004 15:01 (twenty years ago) link
By Sid Kirchheimer
Reviewed By Brunilda Nazario, MDon Monday, January 26, 2004WebMD Feature
Want a drug that could lower your risk of diabetes, Parkinson's disease, and colon cancer? That could lift your mood and treat headaches? That could lower your risk of cavities?
If it sounds too good to be true, think again.
Coffee, the much maligned but undoubtedly beloved beverage, just made headlines for possibly cutting the risk of the latest disease epidemic, type 2 diabetes. And the real news seems to be that the more you drink, the better.
Reducing Disease Risk
After analyzing data on 126,000 people for as long as 18 years, Harvard researchers calculate that compared with not partaking in America's favorite morning drink, downing one to three cups of caffeinated coffee daily can reduce diabetes risk by single digits. But having six cups or more each day slashed men's risk by 54% and women's by 30% over java avoiders.
Though the scientists give the customary "more research is needed" before they recommend you do overtime at Starbuck's to specifically prevent diabetes, their findings, reported just two weeks ago, are very similar to those in a less-publicized Dutch study last year. And perhaps more importantly, it's the latest of hundreds of studies suggesting that coffee may be something of a health food -- especially in higher amounts.
In recent decades, some 19,000 studies have been done examining coffee's impact on health. And for the most part, their results are as pleasing as a gulp of freshly brewed Breakfast Blend for the 108 million Americans who routinely enjoy this traditionally morning -- and increasingly daylong -- ritual. In practical terms, regular coffee drinkers include the majority of U.S. adults and a growing number of children.
"Overall, the research shows that coffee is far more healthful than it is harmful," says Tomas DePaulis, PhD, research scientist at Vanderbilt University's Institute for Coffee Studies, which conducts its own medical research and tracks coffee studies from around the world. "For most people, very little bad comes from drinking it, but a lot of good."
Consider this: At least six studies indicate that people who drink coffee on a regular basis are up to 80% less likely to develop Parkinson's, with three showing the more they drink, the lower the risk. Other research shows that compared to not drinking coffee, at least two cups daily can translate to a 25% reduced risk of colon cancer, an 80% drop in liver cirrhosis risk, and nearly half the risk of gallstones.
Coffee even offsets some of the damage caused by other vices, some research indicates. "People who smoke and are heavy drinkers have less heart disease and liver damage when they regularly consume large amounts of coffee compared to those who don't," says DePaulis.
There's also some evidence that coffee may help manage asthma and even control attacks when medication is unavailable, stop a headache, boost mood, and even prevent cavities.
The Benefits of Caffeine
Is it the caffeine? The oodles of antioxidants in coffee beans, some of which become especially potent during the roasting process? Even other mysterious properties that warrant this intensive study?
Actually, yes.
Some of coffee's reported benefits are a direct result of its higher caffeine content: An eight ounce cup of drip-brewed coffee contains about 85 mg -- about three and a half times more than the same serving of tea or cola or one ounce of chocolate.
"The evidence is very strong that regular coffee consumption reduces risk of Parkinson's disease and for that, it's directly related to caffeine," DePaulis tells WebMD. "In fact, Parkinson's drugs are now being developed that contain a derivative of caffeine based on this evidence."
Caffeine is also what helps in treating asthma and headaches. Though not widely publicized, a single dose of pain reliever such as Anacin or Excedrin contains up to 120 milligrams -- what's in a hefty mug o' Joe.
It's also caffeine -- and not coffee, per se -- that makes java a powerful aid in enhancing athletic endurance and performance, says physiologist and longtime coffee researcher Terry Graham, PhD, of the University of Guelph in Canada. So powerful, in fact, that until recently, caffeine in coffee or other forms was deemed a "controlled" substance by the Olympic Games Committee, meaning that it could be consumed only in small, designated amounts by competing athletes.
"What caffeine likely does is stimulate the brain and nervous system to do things differently," he tells WebMD. "That may include signaling you to ignore fatigue or recruit extra units of muscle for intense athletic performance. Caffeine may even have a direct effect on muscles themselves, causing them to produce a stronger contraction. But what's amazing about it is that unlike some performance-enhancing manipulation some athletes do that are specific for strength or sprinting or endurance, studies show that caffeine positively enhances all of these things."
In other words, consume enough caffeine -- whether it's from coffee or another source -- and you will likely run faster, last longer and be stronger. What's enough? As little as one cup can offer some benefit, but the real impact comes from at least two mugs, says Graham. By comparison, it'd take at least eight glasses of cola to get the same effect, which isn't exactly conducive for running a marathon.
But the harder you exercise, the more benefit you may get from coffee. "Unfortunately, where you see the enhancing effects from caffeine is in hard-working athletes, who are able to work longer and somewhat harder," says Graham, who has studied the effects of caffeine and coffee for nearly two decades. "If you a recreational athlete who is working out to reduce weight or just feel better, you're not pushing yourself hard enough to get an athletic benefit from coffee or other caffeinated products."
But you can get other others benefits from coffee that have nothing to do with caffeine. "Coffee is loaded with antioxidants, including a group of compounds called quinines that when administered to lab rats, increases their insulin sensitivity" he tells WebMD. This increased sensitivity improves the body's response to insulin.
That may explain why in that new Harvard study, those drinking decaf coffee but not tea beverages also showed a reduced diabetes risk, albeit it was half as much as those drinking caffeinated coffee.
"We don't know exactly why coffee is beneficial for diabetes," lead researcher Frank Hu, MD, tells WebMD. "It is possible that both caffeine and other compounds play important roles. Coffee has large amounts of antioxidants such as chlorogenic acid and tocopherols, and minerals such as magnesium. All these components have been shown to improve insulin sensitivity and glucose metabolism."
Meanwhile, Italian researchers credit another compound called trigonelline, which gives coffee its aroma and bitter taste, for having both antibacterial and anti-adhesive properties to help prevent dental cavities from forming. There are other theories for other conditions.
Children and Coffee
How does this brew affect growing minds and bodies? Very nicely, it seems, says DePaulis. Coffee, as you probably know, makes you more alert, which can boost concentration. But claims that it improves a child's academic performance can be exaggerated. Coffee-drinking kids may do better on school tests because they're more awake, but most task-to-task lab studies suggest that coffee doesn't really improve mental performance, says DePaulis.
But it helps kids' minds in another way. "There recently was a study from Brazil finding that children who drink coffee with milk each day are less likely to have depression than other children," he tells WebMD. "In fact, no studies show that coffee in reasonable amounts is in any way harmful to children."
On the flip side, it's clear that coffee isn't for everyone. Its legendary jolt in excess doses -- that is, more than whatever your individual body can tolerate -- can increase nervousness, hand trembling, and cause rapid heartbeat. Coffee may also raise cholesterol levels in some people and may contribute to artery clogging. But most recent large studies show no significant adverse affects on most healthy people, although pregnant women, heart patients, and those at risk for osteoporosis may still be advised to limit or avoid coffee.
The bottom line: "People who already drink a lot of coffee don't have to feel 'guilty' as long as coffee does not affect their daily life," says Hu. "They may actually benefit from coffee habits in the long-run."
Published Jan. 26, 2004.
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SOURCES: Tomas DePaulis, PhD, research scientist, Vanderbilt University's Institute for Coffee Studies; research assistant professor of psychiatry, Vanderbilt University Medical Center, Nashville. Terry Graham, PhD, University of Guelph, Canada. Frank Hu, MD, PhD, associate professor of nutrition and epidemiology, Harvard School of Public Health, Boston. Hu, F. Annals of Internal Medicine, January 2004; vol 140; pp 1-8. Benedetti MD, Neurology, July 12, 2000; vol 55; pp 1350-1358. Ross, G. The Journal of the American Medical Association, May 24, 2000; vol 283; pp 2674-2679. Gazzani, G. Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry, Feb. 27, 2000. Leitzmann, M. The Journal of the American Medical Association, June 9, 1999, vol 281; pp 2106-2122. Giovannucci, E. American Journal of Epidemiology, June 1, 1998; vol 147; pp 1043-1052. Pagano, R. Chest, August 1988; vol 94; pp 387-389. © 2004 WebMD Inc. All rights reserved.
― Mike Hanle y (mike), Monday, 2 February 2004 15:08 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 2 February 2004 15:10 (twenty years ago) link
i don't really drink coffee anymore. the acids in the coffee & chocolate(and the caffiene) tend to have detrimental effects on my stomach lining & digestive system.
― Kingfish Funyun (Kingfish), Monday, 2 February 2004 15:12 (twenty years ago) link
― Mike Hanle y (mike), Monday, 2 February 2004 15:20 (twenty years ago) link
― Bryan (Bryan), Monday, 2 February 2004 15:21 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 2 February 2004 15:21 (twenty years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 2 February 2004 15:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Mike Hanle y (mike), Monday, 2 February 2004 16:18 (twenty years ago) link
I'm glad actually that I clicked this thread and that Alex brought it up because I had forgotten that one tidbit about caffeine intake and had been worried for a bit that I was experiencing serious hearing issues for no reason.
Actually the high caffeine and sugar intake of late may be responsible for quite a few of my recently spawned health issues. Excessive muscle soreness, for example.
― TOMBOT, Monday, 2 February 2004 16:58 (twenty years ago) link
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― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Monday, 2 February 2004 20:17 (twenty years ago) link
― luna (luna.c), Monday, 2 February 2004 20:22 (twenty years ago) link
― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Monday, 2 February 2004 20:24 (twenty years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 2 February 2004 20:29 (twenty years ago) link
― teeny (teeny), Monday, 2 February 2004 22:17 (twenty years ago) link
(Tea is definitely the way to go.)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 February 2004 22:19 (twenty years ago) link
grrr!
― isadora (isadora), Monday, 2 February 2004 22:24 (twenty years ago) link
Plus a camel or two and some techno records.
― TOMBOT, Monday, 2 February 2004 22:25 (twenty years ago) link
How much more research? Cause I'll totally drink 10+ cups a day for science. Might as well let someone other than myself benefit from my consumption.
― martin m. (mushrush), Monday, 2 February 2004 23:44 (twenty years ago) link
Drinking coffee makes sperm swim faster and could improve male fertility.
― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 2 February 2004 23:55 (twenty years ago) link
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 00:48 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 00:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 00:52 (twenty years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 00:55 (twenty years ago) link
With coffee, there's no dunking or making sure you don't leave the bag in for too long or too short a time. I think coffee & tea are about equally simple to make.
I don't get the tea/coffee dichotomy. They are both useful.
* optional/not required (depending on your preference)** optional/not required (depending on style of coffeemaker)
― martin m. (mushrush), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 01:24 (twenty years ago) link
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― thee music mole, Wednesday, 16 February 2005 20:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 20:16 (nineteen years ago) link
Fill it to the rim!
― j.lu (j.lu), Thursday, 17 February 2005 02:20 (nineteen years ago) link
Damn, now I want a coffee.
― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 17 February 2005 02:27 (nineteen years ago) link
conscious decision to cut back. day 2 of only one coffee first thing in the morning. after that, green tea. it is sort of painful. but i feel better.
― rrrobyn, Friday, 22 August 2008 18:03 (sixteen years ago) link
what's so healthy about coffee?
i just love the taste :D i don't even care about the caffeine really, actually it makes me nervous
― Surmounter, Friday, 22 August 2008 18:04 (sixteen years ago) link
i love the taste too! and i care about the caffeine it totally makes me into crazy tho
― rrrobyn, Friday, 22 August 2008 18:09 (sixteen years ago) link
i've become obsessed with just milk, no sugar. or black (i feel like i was just going over this in chatz or somewhere)
― Surmounter, Friday, 22 August 2008 18:18 (sixteen years ago) link
(ya chatz)
― Surmounter, Friday, 22 August 2008 18:19 (sixteen years ago) link
SOY MILK is A++ great in coffee, also ALMOND MILK
― elmo argonaut, Friday, 22 August 2008 18:20 (sixteen years ago) link
almond milk is really tasty but isn't it kind of clumpy for coffee?
― Surmounter, Friday, 22 August 2008 18:20 (sixteen years ago) link
i have tried these imposters, and thought i enjoyed them, but then i realized that the truth is: organic whole milk all the freakin way
― rrrobyn, Friday, 22 August 2008 18:22 (sixteen years ago) link
ok now u r makin me want coffee and the source of all my issues, the office espresso machine, is so close, so close
― rrrobyn, Friday, 22 August 2008 18:23 (sixteen years ago) link
whole milk otm. sometimes if i'm crazy, cream
― Surmounter, Friday, 22 August 2008 18:23 (sixteen years ago) link
i just can't do skim in coffee, it really upsets me
i was all into cream for a couple of months but it was making me feel uhh and bloaty. fun facts
― rrrobyn, Friday, 22 August 2008 18:25 (sixteen years ago) link
same thing happened to me! was into it for a few months too. like drinking it was wow, but it was a bit heavy
― Surmounter, Friday, 22 August 2008 18:26 (sixteen years ago) link
i dunno, i really don't like the fatty flavor of whole milk or cream, not as much as i used to at least! i feel it tends to overpower the flavor of the bean.
soy milk (chocolate variety, if you dirty) has a mild nutty flavor, almond milk moreso, that i find more complimentary
― elmo argonaut, Friday, 22 August 2008 18:27 (sixteen years ago) link
i do like almond milk in coffee for a lighter flavor, it's true. maybe i will go back to it, since my milk just went off weird thing is that i drink more coffee on the wkends bc i am home in the morning and so i make a thing (stovetop espresso maker) of coffee at least twice. and it is strong. and then i feel crazy.
― rrrobyn, Friday, 22 August 2008 18:38 (sixteen years ago) link
people hand me coffee when I walk into the office! so good.
― o-ess, Friday, 22 August 2008 18:48 (sixteen years ago) link
h8ing soy milk in coffee, but it is not as bad (by a long shot) as soy milk in Earl Grey
― Abbott, Friday, 22 August 2008 19:17 (sixteen years ago) link
i relegate my coffee consumption to caffeine emergencies only, which translates to about 2 or 3 times a month. this keeps my tolerance crazy low, so when I do take it (no cream, no sugar, just straight up and usually only about 8 oz) I am on the fucking moon. it is AWESOME.
― will, Friday, 22 August 2008 19:38 (sixteen years ago) link
i remember those days
― rrrobyn, Friday, 22 August 2008 19:44 (sixteen years ago) link
i've had coffee today & yesterday after being off the junk for awhile
― bell_labs, Friday, 22 August 2008 19:51 (sixteen years ago) link
I no longer drink coffee bcz it upsets my tum-tums BUT if I go even a day w/out coca-cola classic I get mad withdrawal headaches. There's no winning.
― Abbott, Friday, 22 August 2008 22:02 (sixteen years ago) link
the only lingering effect of my one-year vegan experiment was learning to drink coffee black. and like it! sometimes i get one with milk by accident and it's not bad, but it doesn't taste like coffee to me. (and the way my wife drinks it, half+half plus sugar, tastes like a milkshake.)
i find that the occasional stomach upsets from too-much-coffee are greatly reduced by taking the lactose out of it. not to mention it makes it pretty much guilt-free on the calorie side.
― tipsy mothra, Friday, 22 August 2008 22:21 (sixteen years ago) link
It's pretty much the meds + cigarettes + black coffee + oops forgot to eat combo that wipes out my poor stomach. Maybe all the blame does not belong to the coffee, but when it's added to the mix, I get literally nauseous.
― Abbott, Friday, 22 August 2008 22:26 (sixteen years ago) link
Black, strong. Fuck a milk and sugar. Coffeeeeee.
― DavidM, Friday, 22 August 2008 22:28 (sixteen years ago) link
Double espresso, early in the morning. Almost never any caffeine after that with the exception of small amounts in mint tea and larger amounts in chocolate.
― Michael White, Friday, 22 August 2008 22:36 (sixteen years ago) link
i usually have 2-3 cups in the morning, one or 2 in the afternoon, often one in the early evening. (then red wine to bring myself down...)
― tipsy mothra, Friday, 22 August 2008 22:42 (sixteen years ago) link
i have been on soy milk lately and am really enjoying it! do not like regular milk. it just tastes bizarre to me either it's too light and makes everything weird or it's too fatty/heavy and makes things seem filmy. ew. filmy is gross word.
lately i have been on: 1 mug at home in am, 1 travel mug that i drink when i get to work, 1 diet coke at lunch. probably too much caffeine, huh. i LOVE weekends when i can make a pot and just sit around and relax and drink it.
― tehresa, Friday, 22 August 2008 23:31 (sixteen years ago) link
I stopped drinking it because it was destroying my tum too and making me have migraines. The last two days I have had a small coffee in the morning and it has been ok. I know I should switch back to green tea before I am drawn back in though.
I used to drink insane amouts of coffee in highschool. I worked at a coffee shop and for awhile I would fill a nalgene bottle with espresso to bring to school the next day!
― bell_labs, Saturday, 23 August 2008 01:47 (sixteen years ago) link
plain black coffee. strong. wondering once again if i should try to quit, or at least switch to decaf, because i get a headache and horribly moody and short tempered if i don't have a cup every morning
― daria-g, Saturday, 23 August 2008 03:23 (sixteen years ago) link
i did a 2-week coffee fast a few years ago, just to sort of test my level of dependency. i didn't really notice that much of a difference. had a few mild headaches, felt a little more tired toward the end of the day. basically i could function fine without it. but knowing that, why would i? i like it.
― tipsy mothra, Saturday, 23 August 2008 04:36 (sixteen years ago) link
On the down side are coffee's well-documented side effects: anxiety, insomnia, tremor and irregular heartbeat. It can also irritate the digestive system, bladder and prostate. If you experience any of these effects, you're better off avoiding coffee (and decaf, which contains substances that may contribute to the symptoms) no matter what potential health benefits it may have. The way coffee affects you is your surest guide to whether or not you should be drinking it at all and, if so, how much.
Andrew Weil, M.D. (heartbreaker)
― tremendoid, Saturday, 23 August 2008 07:26 (sixteen years ago) link
i read this today and am curious do some people actually not get these effects? i thought it was something you gotta just power through into the plateau of addiction but i don't seem to be making "progress"
― tremendoid, Saturday, 23 August 2008 07:29 (sixteen years ago) link
I thought I got anxiety if I didn't drink it. I find it hard to connect the symptoms.
― o-ess, Saturday, 23 August 2008 10:19 (sixteen years ago) link