WARDROBE MALFUNCTION!

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Lamest excuse since, uh, some of those excuses Clinton gave?

CBS apologizes for Jackson’s breast-baring end to halftime show, MTV contrite
NEW YORK (AP) — CBS and MTV both say they had no idea that their Super Bowl halftime show would wind up with singer Justin Timberlake tearing off part of Janet Jackson’s costume, exposing her breast. Timberlake blamed a “wardrobe malfunction.”
“CBS deeply regrets the incident,” spokeswoman LeslieAnne Wade said after the network received calls about the Sunday night show.
The two singers were performing a flirtatious duet to end the halftime show, and at the song’s finish, Timberlake reached across Jackson’s leather gladiator outfit and pulled off the covering to her right breast. Her nipple was covered by a pastie.
The network quickly cut away from the shot and did not mention the incident on the air.
The Super Bowl halftime show, which also featured P. Diddy, Nelly and Kid Rock, was produced by MTV, CBS’s corporate cousin in Viacom.
“We were extremely disappointed by elements of the MTV-produced halftime show,” said Joe Browne, NFL executive vice-president. “They were totally inconsistent with assurances our office was given about the content of the show.
“It’s unlikely that MTV will produce another Super Bowl halftime.”
MTV issued a contrite statement in which it also apologized, saying the incident was “unrehearsed, unplanned, completely unintentional and was inconsistent with assurances we had about the content of the performance.”
Timberlake said he did not intend to expose Jackson’s breast.
“I am sorry that anyone was offended by the wardrobe malfunction during the halftime performance of the Super Bowl,” Timberlake said in a statement. “It was not intentional and is regrettable.”
Wade said CBS officials attended rehearsals of the halftime show all week, “and there was no indication any such thing would happen. The moment did not conform to CBS’s broadcast standards and we would like to apologize to anyone who was offended.”


And doesn't the fact that she was wearing a pasty indicate that this WAS planned. Or do women often wear pasties under their clothes anyhow, just in case?

Anyway, this thread is about lame and and ridiculous excuses.

Huck If I Know (Horace Mann), Monday, 2 February 2004 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I only saw the clip this morning. I dunno, man, they both looked a bit shocked.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 2 February 2004 14:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe I'm just being naive, though. Bigger question: WHO CARES?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 2 February 2004 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

oh Janet SO wears those elaborate piercings like every day, just praying someone will rip and reveal...

stevem (blueski), Monday, 2 February 2004 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Wardrobe Malfunction is a phenomenal term however, gotta hand it to Justin (the hand that isn't clutching torn Janet fabric)

stevem (blueski), Monday, 2 February 2004 15:01 (twenty-one years ago)

i really can't believe how anyone would think this was anything but completely orchestrated

mark p (Mark P), Monday, 2 February 2004 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Her nipple was covered by a pastie.

http://www.alanrichards.org/images/pasty4.gif ???

robster (robster), Monday, 2 February 2004 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Rob, you're making me hard.

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 2 February 2004 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

crusty!

Huck If I Know (Horace Mann), Monday, 2 February 2004 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't think MTV were in on or expecting it but i expect Janet and Justin's people were like 'okay we gotta top Britney and Madonna somehow'...remembered Diana Ross jiggling Lil Kim a few years back and decided breasts were back in this year - fortunately

stevem (blueski), Monday, 2 February 2004 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

i really can't believe how anyone would think this was anything but completely orchestrated

I dunno. I think something was definetely supposed to happen (i.e. why else would Justin have reached out to grab'n'rip), but perhaps more came off than was expected. Why would MTV deliberately dabble in such shenanigans on network television during "family time". It's one thing to do that on the MTV Awards or something, but the Superbowl ropes in a larger, Bible-bangin', flat-earthin', slackjawed, ultra-conservative, creationist audience, and OF COURSE said demographic would get up in arms at the sight of some exposed naughty bits. I know MTV style themselves as all about "shakin' things up", but that seems a bit too foolhardy. I dunno. Jury's still out. But once agian, B.F.D.!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 2 February 2004 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Remind me never to go into a Greggs with you, Mark.

robster (robster), Monday, 2 February 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I think they were BOTH supposed to come out!

Huck If I Know (Horace Mann), Monday, 2 February 2004 15:10 (twenty-one years ago)

"this will be the most discussed 20 seconds of film since Zapruder!"

Huck If I Know (Horace Mann), Monday, 2 February 2004 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Reminds of....was it Live Aid?...when Jagger ripped the skirt off of Tina Turner (revealing...yawn...entirely naughty-bit-coverig leather undies).

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 2 February 2004 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

oh Janet SO wears those elaborate piercings like every day, just praying someone will rip and reveal...

Holy Milli Vanilli, surely not a piercing? I mean, that's one poking pastie, but I would have thought it was only stuck on. The boob covering has come off very neatly though - Maybe they _were_ both supposed to come out. Nothing like asymmetry to enrage a conservative audience, after all.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Monday, 2 February 2004 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

alex the super bowl also has an audience of 88 million people and janet has a record coming out soon, her "sexiest" yet

mtv didn't necessarily need to be involved

mark p (Mark P), Monday, 2 February 2004 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess. When did the Superbowl morph from being simply a prominent sporting event and more of a vast pop-cultural clusterfuck?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 2 February 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

about 38 years ago.

Huck If I Know (Horace Mann), Monday, 2 February 2004 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Huck you FASCIST JOCK!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 2 February 2004 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Bring back the marching bands!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 2 February 2004 16:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh Alex, you've just made my Dad proud of me for the first time in 15 years.

Huck Stable (Horace Mann), Monday, 2 February 2004 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe I'm just being naive, though. Bigger question: WHO CARES?

The FCC. Michael Powell has vowed that there will be a thorough and swift inquisition investigation.

j.lu (j.lu), Monday, 2 February 2004 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

what I said, re: Zapruder film.

Huck Stable (Horace Mann), Monday, 2 February 2004 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

"this will be the most discussed 20 seconds of film since Zapruder!"

I already made the grassy knoll joke elsewhere dammit. KEEP UP.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 February 2004 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

AP has removed the pastie reference from their wire copy!

grassy knoll? what is that?

Huck Stable (Horace Mann), Monday, 2 February 2004 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Like the Zapruder film it's part of the whole JFK assassination mythology (it's supposedly where another/the real assassin was shooting JFK from).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 February 2004 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)

(ha ha, I know what the grassy knoll is, you think I'd be able to refer to Zapruder without knowing about the G.K.? I don't know why I feigned ignorance though. Just to, y'know, get you back for scooping the JFK joke. Ooooh, zing! I know. Pretty lame.)

Huck Stable (Horace Mann), Monday, 2 February 2004 16:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah, ya punk.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 February 2004 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Clearly Mtv have to be de-fensive about something that's so
o-ffensive

*sorry, Monday, 2 February 2004 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

why is the superbowl so uppity all of a sudden? Like they never gave a then-suspected murderer MVP? Like that doesn't send a more confusing message than...okay, whatever Janet had on her hoo-ha was pretty confusing, but still!

Huck Stable (Horace Mann), Monday, 2 February 2004 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Utter horseshit. For that many things to play together so nicely takes planning (cleanly detached boobpiece, clearly intentional arm motion, end of song, camera cut, fade to black, oh and the nipple was covered, BTW doesn't justin look bored in the after-photo) and, dare I say, rehearsal. CBS was in on the whole thing from the beginning too, they just had to have plausible deniability. I'm sure it would have been much more of a donkey show had MTV been given full control.

The fact that MTV Networks for all intents and purposes owns the lives of every pop star in America is getting kind of depressing.

TOMBOT, Monday, 2 February 2004 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)

The fact that MTV Networks for all intents and purposes owns the lives of every pop star in America is getting kind of depressing.

Damn well said, Tom.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 2 February 2004 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

That's a piercing and make no mistake. Carlos and I were at the end of a school-night mong-out and turned on when Nelly was on (I had to identify Puffy). We weren't sure if we had network feed at the time or if it was C5 TittyCam delivering Janet's mams to us in glorious Technicolour.

suzy (suzy), Monday, 2 February 2004 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

So, uh, is Janet still the normal Jackson?

Did she perhaps pull this stunt to draw attention unto herself and away from her brother (of whom she's always been protective and supportive, "pervert #2" anyone?)?

Huck Stable (Horace Mann), Monday, 2 February 2004 17:10 (twenty-one years ago)

The nipple covered is U+K: if it had been simply pierced, I don't think there'd be loving coverage on news.yahoo.com etc. Is it shown on the news?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 2 February 2004 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

It was like a brooch for tits, Andrew, complete with OW OW OW pin, or v.gothic earrings but for the breasts. No nipple action, but you could see the dark skin of the thingummy around the nipple as part of the 'fun'.

Can't wait to argue piercing v. pasty with my mom.

suzy (suzy), Monday, 2 February 2004 17:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha "nipple was covered"* isn't exactly planning in this case, that thing is definitely a huge piercing. That's basically logically equivalent to saying that if someone sees my stomach, I planned on it cos I'm wearing a navel ring. That thing is still freaking me the fuck out. Jesus. My friend Manon had a thing like that and we were just like, god why? WHY? WHY?!??!?!?!?!

I choose not to explain her explanation here.

Anyway this is basically the only part of the game I remember, hooray teams no one gives a shit about and by no one I mean me.

* nor was the nipple, uh, actually covered, being as the shield goes AROUND the actual nipple.

Allyzay, Monday, 2 February 2004 17:16 (twenty-one years ago)

LHaha "nipple was covered"* isn't exactly planning in this case
okay, howabout Justin reaching over and yanking the fabric? Does that qualify it as something other than "wardrobe malfunction?"

Huck Stable (Horace Mann), Monday, 2 February 2004 17:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey fucker, close the tiny!

Huck Stable (Horace Mann), Monday, 2 February 2004 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)

TOMBOT, Monday, 2 February 2004 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)

No, I'm not saying that it wasn't a premeditated event on at least one person's account, I'm just saying that that nipple wasn't covered and saying that "Janet has pierced nipples, she must want people to see them" is a huge load of horseshit.

(sorry about the small tag, I was trying to brush my teeth and type at the same time)

Allyzay, Monday, 2 February 2004 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm just guessing that either:

A) The top wasn't supposed to come off at all but they were miming this for some reason and Justin, uh, did it wrong.
B) Part of the top was supposed to rip and he took off all of it.

Either way the "malfunction" here is Justin Timberlake, which is pretty much a good way to look at Justin Timberlake in general I think.

Allyzay, Monday, 2 February 2004 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I wonder if the Pats' owner did any high fives afterwards. That right there is the missing clue we need.

TOMBOT, Monday, 2 February 2004 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

"Stiff high fives"

Tom yr email isn't working, I'm not going to retype everything 40 times but I'll try later ok? Sorry to disturb everyone with this personal message. Carry on.

Allyzay, Monday, 2 February 2004 17:30 (twenty-one years ago)

exposed nipple = Vinatieri doesn't tank his last field goal

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 2 February 2004 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Just announced on CNN, the FCC is launching an investigative PROBE (heh heh) to find out if it was accident at all.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 2 February 2004 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I was actually far more offended by the armadillo race! Mein gott!!! Live armadillos* are frightened enough of - well, everything, so there's no need making them compete against each other with numbers and saddles on their backs. Disgusting.

*As opposed to armadillos in their natural state: dead on the side of the road.

xpost: Thank god for that.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 2 February 2004 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

this stupid country (oh wait)

stevem (blueski), Monday, 2 February 2004 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I suppose I'm really just interested in Yahoo's "Horrible accident, thousands of children and elderly mentally scarred, here's that footage again!" Is it as simple as TV doesn't like it, online doesn't care?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 2 February 2004 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

"Well, the lyrics include the phrase 'I'm gonna have you naked by the end of this song'" is the new "Well, the X-wing is a sperm and the Death Star is an egg" for those of you wondering exactly where all of your coworkers fall on the Clever Matrix

TOMBOT, Monday, 2 February 2004 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Clever/Loud matrix.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 2 February 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Just announced on CNN, the FCC is launching an investigative PROBE (heh heh) to find out if it was accident at all.

The point of which is WTF exactly? It just seems like a lot of expensive fuss over such a non-important-event.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 2 February 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

It's good to know that our governmental agencies have so much time on their hands. "Let's watch it again...in slow motion...that's right..."

haha...xpost?

Allyzay, Monday, 2 February 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

on her next album janet should sing Doyou Doyou St-Tropez

Do you Do you Do you Saint Tropez
Do you Do you Do you Saint Tropez
Do you Do you Do you Saint Tropez
Do you Do you Do you Saint Tropez
On peut marcher pieds nus à Saint Tropez
Pas besoin de costume à Saint Tropez
Un vieux blue jeans suffit pour s'habiller. yé
C'est la tenue rêvée de Saint Tropez

On court dans le vent
On se grille au soleil
On brûle ses vingts ans
On s'amuse on rit on danse
On fait les fous
On chante comme des amis yeh yeh

Do you Do you Do you Saint Tropez
Do you Do you Do you Saint Tropez
Do you Do you Do you Saint Tropez
Do you Do you Do you Saint Tropez

Et quand revient l'été à Saint Tropez
Tous les garçons sont beaux à Saint Tropez
Toutes les filles sont belles a croquer yé
Au rendez vous d'amour de Saint Tropez

Do you Do you Do you Saint Tropez
Do you Do you Do you Saint Tropez
Do you Do you Do you Saint Tropez
Do you Do you Do you Saint Tropez

L'amour c'est comme la mer à Saint Tropez
Ça change tous les jours à Saint Tropez
Pour un seul de perdu dix de r'trouvés yé
On ne meurt pas d'amour à Saint Tropez

Do you Do you Do you Saint Tropez,
Do you Do you Do you Saint Tropez
Do you Do you Do you Saint Tropez,
Do you Do you Do you Saint Tropez

{Solo Sax - Instrumental}

Do you Do you Do you Saint Tropez,
Do you Do you Do you Saint Tropez
Do you Do you Do you Saint Tropez,
Do you Do you Do you Saint Tropez

Do you Do you Do you Saint Tropez,
Do you Do you Do you Saint Tropez
Do you Do you Do you Saint Tropez,
Do you Do you Do you Saint Tropez.

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Monday, 2 February 2004 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)

haha Tom agreed, it's a "Use Other Facts Please!" instant classic

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 2 February 2004 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Kid Rock should've exposed his tits, too.

Allyzay, Monday, 2 February 2004 17:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Speaking of the government, if this is the sort of behavior they're looking for at the Super Bowl Halftime Shizzow then I think Pizza Christ should sign up. My posse sure as hell dresses better.

TOMBOT, Monday, 2 February 2004 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I bet they don't allow breast-feeding in public, either.

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 2 February 2004 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I dunno, man, P. Diddy's a pretty sharp dressed dude.

Allyzay, Monday, 2 February 2004 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)

'Just announced on CNN, the FCC is launching an investigative PROBE (heh heh) to find out if it was accident at all.'

Lord Hutton's next inquiry?

Joe Kay (feethurt), Monday, 2 February 2004 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Lord Hutton should be inquiring about why the fuck P. Diddy is breast-feeding children!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 2 February 2004 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

but he'd just blame the kids for not sucking right

stevem (blueski), Monday, 2 February 2004 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

buncha hatas

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 2 February 2004 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

AP has removed the pastie reference from their wire copy!

Is AP's KILL message anywhere online?

j.lu (j.lu), Monday, 2 February 2004 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)

It is now:


Update: ADDs that calls not returned from Jackson’s representatives, ADDS comment from Jackson’s choreographer from several days ago promising ’shocking moments’ in halftime show, deletes reference to ‘pastie.’
See AP Photos
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HL:CBS apologizes for Jackson’s breast-baring end to halftime show; MTV contrite
NEW YORK (AP) — CBS and MTV both say they had no idea their Super Bowl halftime show would wind up with singer Justin Timberlake tearing off part of Janet Jackson’s costume, exposing her breast.
Timberlake blamed a “wardrobe malfunction.”
“CBS deeply regrets the incident,” spokeswoman LeslieAnne Wade said after the network received calls about the Sunday night show.
The two singers were performing a flirtatious duet to end the halftime show, with Timberlake singing, Rock Your Body, and the lines he sang at the moment of truth were: “I’m gonna have you naked by the end of this song.”
With that, Timberlake reached across Jackson’s leather gladiator outfit and pulled off the covering to her right breast, which was partially obscured by a sun-shaped, metal nipple decoration.
The network quickly cut away from the shot, and did not mention the exposure on the air.
Messages left with Jackson’s record company and her personal publicist were not returned Monday morning.
The Super Bowl halftime show, which also featured P. Diddy, Nelly and Kid Rock, was produced by MTV, CBS’s corporate cousin in Viacom.
“We were extremely disappointed by elements of the MTV-produced halftime show,” Joe Browne, NFL executive vice-president, said. “They were totally inconsistent with assurances our office was given about the content of the show.
“It’s unlikely that MTV will produce another Super Bowl halftime.”
MTV issued a contrite statement in which it also apologized, saying the incident was “unrehearsed, unplanned, completely unintentional and was inconsistent with assurances we had about the content of the performance.”
Timberlake said he did not intend to expose Jackson’s breast.
“I am sorry that anyone was offended by the wardrobe malfunction during the halftime performance of the Super Bowl,” Timberlake said in a statement. “It was not intentional and is regrettable.”
Wade said CBS officials attended rehearsals of the halftime show all week, “and there was no indication any such thing would happen. The moment did not conform to CBS’s broadcast standards and we would like to apologize to anyone who was offended.”
In an interview posted on MTV.com in the days before the show, Jackson’s choreographer, Gil Duldulao, talked about the show, saying: “She’s more stylized, she’s more feminine, she’s more a woman as she dances this time around. There are some shocking moments in there, too.”

Huck Stable (Horace Mann), Monday, 2 February 2004 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I was at a big ironic superbowl party and called it right as it happened... they cut to break SO fast. But people were like, "No,
I'll bet they planned it that way..." Now I'm vindicated.

Paris Hilton spam is out. Janet J spam is SO in...

andy, Monday, 2 February 2004 18:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Scene: MTV Secret HQ

a: OK, what do we have?
b: We got a 6 year old Diddy song, a 3 year old Nelly song, a 4 year old Kid Rock number, and uh how old is Janet again? Oh yeah, Timberlake, he's current. Sorta.
a: Man, we need something newer. Can't Diddy and Nelly do that one... you know, from last summer?
b: Sorry, nope, the transition is Diddy riffing on that 20 year old Toni Basil song.
a: Yeah, that's important so that the fossils have something they remember...
b: Fitty definitely said "no", right?
a: Yup.... *snaps fingers* I GOT IT! GET THIS! We. Show. Titties! But...get this...AC-CID-ENTLY!!!
b: Brilliant!

Hunter (Hunter), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 02:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Next time the security guards yell at me for walking around the mall with my cock out, I'm blaming wardrobe malfunction.

NA (Nick A.), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 04:15 (twenty-one years ago)

And they'll know because......??????

Skottie, Tuesday, 3 February 2004 06:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I know, I'm sorry, too easy...

Skottie, Tuesday, 3 February 2004 06:06 (twenty-one years ago)

No, too hard!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)

booooooooooo.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

are you saying booo or booo-urns?

stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 15:50 (twenty-one years ago)

NA, that will only work if you have JT pawing at your zipper as you walk through the mall.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Or some passing vagrant - it might be cheaper and people won't know the difference.

jazz odysseus, Tuesday, 3 February 2004 17:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Every bad/shockah thing Justin does from now on will be blamed on a pasing vagrant. This doesn't include grabbing Kylie's ass due to a better shave and the fact that passing vagarnts do not have professional backing dancers in their corner.

Barima (Barima), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha obviously you don't live in the US, Barima!

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha, Dan, you've seen Girls Aloud's wardrobe, right? Hell, Atomic Kitten's?I think that speaks for itself.

Barima (Barima), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Replying to a 'haha' with another 'haha' seems really wrong.

Barima (Barima), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Aw.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Is this the single greatest bit of prose to concern itself with Janet's boob?

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2004/02/03/news/columnists/observer/2_2_0422_09_57.txt

Yes, I think it is.

mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

wow, that's fantastic!

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

this is pretty strong, too

Kingfish Funyun (Kingfish), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)

"superstructures"

ModJ (ModJ), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha ha, that Van Doorn article is great.

NA (Nick A.), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)

that livejournal guy missed the chance to reference http://www.nice-tits.org/ in his birdwatching bit, so I deem it unsatisfactory.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)


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