― scott woods, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Helen Fordsdale, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
oh yeah, and for the ladies, they can give you thrush.
― di, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― james, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Madchen, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― chris, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Pete, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Sarah, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― RickyT, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Michael Daddino, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
I also have top-down concerns. I don't generally trust doctors, or, rather, the medical "establishment"--just the fact that they don't recognize alternative, holistic practices (not to say those are the be all/end all, but they're not even allowed in the building). I'm especially weary about doctors who loosely prescribe antibiotics. (And the rush of people to get antibiotic'd up in light of the anthrax scare just reads, from a distance, like a bad conspiracy movie.)
They don't destroy your immune system, but they can prevent it from developing by spanking any unfriendly bacteria before your body can accquire immunity.
People who take them/doctors who prescribe for flu/colds = idiots. Colds are caused by viruses. Antibiotics only work on bacteria. They are obviously useful for secondary bacterial infections, but most people with a sniffle don't develop them, so there's no real argument for prescribing them.
Their indiscriminate nature often does lead to thrush and gut issues if used in excess, which is obviously an argument fornot overusing them.
Having said that, antibiotics are possibly the most important medical advance of the twentieth century. Before their discovery there was often very little that could be done about bacterial infections. People regularly died from something as innocuous as a boil.
Cipro is the anthrax antibiotic here and is also prescription only also. (well all antibiotics are.) Cipro saved me from the evil kidney infection once.
― Samantha, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Laetitia, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Richard Tunnicliffe, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― toraneko, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
...and if they've got shrapnel wounds and have been left for a few days in a boggy trench? Or if they've got Plague?
Thank you for fixing my rotten italics.
― Kris, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Lara (Lara), Sunday, 26 January 2003 17:55 (twenty-three years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 26 January 2003 18:11 (twenty-three years ago)
― Lara (Lara), Sunday, 26 January 2003 18:14 (twenty-three years ago)
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― Ed (dali), Sunday, 26 January 2003 18:20 (twenty-three years ago)
― Lara (Lara), Sunday, 26 January 2003 18:25 (twenty-three years ago)
Er, I'm not a medical professional, but have been on antibiotics, on and off, for the past year - these have been my survivial strategies.
You should ask your doctor about other things you can/should do (and if your doctor is male, he may not be thinking about the yeast end of things, as he's not likely to have experienced that agony, so you might want to talk with a female medical professional).
― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Sunday, 26 January 2003 18:43 (twenty-three years ago)
JEEZ...
― Lara (Lara), Sunday, 26 January 2003 18:47 (twenty-three years ago)
― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Sunday, 26 January 2003 18:54 (twenty-three years ago)
― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 26 January 2003 18:55 (twenty-three years ago)
I *WILL* NOT GET YEAST INFECTIONS.
I wish Nick would stop thinking about my end.
― Lara (Lara), Sunday, 26 January 2003 18:57 (twenty-three years ago)
― ron (ron), Sunday, 26 January 2003 18:59 (twenty-three years ago)
i've only gotten antibiotics twice! 1 of those times is now! i'm excited!
― you have to forgive me (surm), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 04:21 (sixteen years ago)
What, in your LYFE?? I wouldn't have survived childhood without them, that's for sure. You must have been a healthy baby.
― The other side of genetic power today (Laurel), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 14:40 (sixteen years ago)
i guess! i don't know, i mean, unless my mom got them for me at one time or something. i just don't remember ever taking them, and other kids would always be like "yea i have so and so, i'm on antibiotics." i thought it sounded so impressive
― you have to forgive me (surm), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 14:41 (sixteen years ago)
Kind of like how I really wanted a retainer. Everyone else had one.
― The other side of genetic power today (Laurel), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 14:46 (sixteen years ago)
drinking on antibiotics c/d
― you have to forgive me (surm), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 02:11 (sixteen years ago)
Depends on the antibiotic!
― C-L, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 02:20 (sixteen years ago)
If they gave you a cephalosporin, I would be superduper careful. Some of them react with alcohol in essentially the same way that Antabuse does, i.e., horrible horrible vomiting.
― C-L, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 02:29 (sixteen years ago)
I am terrified of antibiotics and have never taken them in my life, I think
― Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ (dyao), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 02:33 (sixteen years ago)
?? I seriously don't see how it's possible for a kid to grow up and never take antibiotics. Didn't you ever have ear infections, Strep throat or like a billion other childhood illnesses that call for them?
― t(o_o)t (ENBB), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 03:46 (sixteen years ago)
Eat plenty of yogurt
― Sunny River, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 04:00 (sixteen years ago)
I think I had some hearing problems when I was a baby - not sure how they solved those. think I had some kind of tube put in my ears? never had strep throat. 'bout the worst I had was chicken pox. other than that it was just food poisoning, flus, and really really bad colds. xp
― Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ (dyao), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 04:08 (sixteen years ago)
I feel TERRIBLE.
― crüt, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:00 (thirteen years ago)
like I forgot it was possible to feel this terrible
― crüt, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:07 (thirteen years ago)
I'm allergic to penicillin (and, according to my doctor, all the other -illin antibiotics).
― The Devils of Loudoun County (j.lu), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 03:41 (thirteen years ago)
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/health-science-technology/hunting-the-nightmare-bacteria/dr-arjun-srinivasan-weve-reached-the-end-of-antibiotics-period/
― c21m50nh3x460n, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 16:52 (twelve years ago)
this is really potentially great news (and fascinating)
The researchers, at the Northeastern University in Boston, Massachusetts, turned to the source of nearly all antibiotics - soil.This is teeming with microbes, but only 1% can be grown in the laboratory.The team created a "subterranean hotel" for bacteria. One bacterium was placed in each "room" and the whole device was buried in soil. It allowed the unique chemistry of soil to permeate the room, but kept the bacteria in place for study.The scientists involved believe they can grow nearly half of all soil bacteria.Chemicals produced by the microbes, dug up from one researchers back yard, were then tested for antimicrobial properties.The lead scientist, Prof Kim Lewis, said: "So far 25 new antibiotics have been discovered using this method and teixobactin is the latest and most promising one.
This is teeming with microbes, but only 1% can be grown in the laboratory.
The team created a "subterranean hotel" for bacteria. One bacterium was placed in each "room" and the whole device was buried in soil. It allowed the unique chemistry of soil to permeate the room, but kept the bacteria in place for study.
The scientists involved believe they can grow nearly half of all soil bacteria.
Chemicals produced by the microbes, dug up from one researchers back yard, were then tested for antimicrobial properties.
The lead scientist, Prof Kim Lewis, said: "So far 25 new antibiotics have been discovered using this method and teixobactin is the latest and most promising one.
Tests on teixobactin showed it was toxic to bacteria, but not mammalian tissues, and could clear a deadly dose of MRSA in tests on mice.Human tests are now needed.The researchers also believe that bacteria are unlikely to develop resistance to teixobactin.It targets fats which are essential for building the bacterial cell wall, and the scientists argue it would be difficult to evolve resistance."Here is an antibiotic that essentially evolved to be free of resistance," said Prof Lewis. "We haven't seen that before."It has several independent different tricks that minimise resistance development."
Human tests are now needed.
The researchers also believe that bacteria are unlikely to develop resistance to teixobactin.
It targets fats which are essential for building the bacterial cell wall, and the scientists argue it would be difficult to evolve resistance.
"Here is an antibiotic that essentially evolved to be free of resistance," said Prof Lewis. "We haven't seen that before.
"It has several independent different tricks that minimise resistance development."
BBC article which includes link to the Nature article about the discovery.
― gyac, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 20:05 (eleven years ago)
Wow, cool.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 20:08 (eleven years ago)
*sideeye
― Bringing the mosh (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 8 January 2015 03:02 (eleven years ago)
From the Discussion:
Teixobactin binds to multiple targets, none of which is a protein (Fig. 3e and Extended Data Fig. 7). Polyprenyl-coupled cell envelope precursors, such as lipid II, are readily accessible on the outside of Gram-positive bacteria and represent an ‘Achilles heel’ for antibiotic attack28. The target of teixobactin, the pyrophosphate-sugar moiety of these molecules, is highly conserved among eubacteria. The producer is a Gram-negative bacterium, and its outer membrane will protect it from re-entry of the compound (Fig. 3e and Extended Data Fig. 7). This suggests that the producer does not employ an alternative pathway for cell wall synthesis that would protect it from teixobactin, and which other bacteria could borrow. Resistance could eventually emerge from horizontal transmission of a resistance mechanism from some soil bacterium, and given the highly conserved teixobactin binding motif, this would likely take the form of an antibiotic modifying enzyme. However, although determinants coding for enzymes attacking frequently found antibiotics such as β-lactams or aminoglycosides are common, they are unknown for the rare vancomycin.…The properties of teixobactin suggest that it evolved to minimize resistance development by target microorganisms. It is likely that additional natural compounds with similarly low susceptibility to resistance are present in nature and are waiting to be discovered.
The pull quote saying "unlikely to develop resistance" is a bit breathless but it seems like for Gram-positive bacteria to acquire resistance they'd have to eliminate highly-conserved aspects of cell wall precursors or, like, evolve an outer membrane.
― The Understated Twee Hotel On A Mountain (silby), Thursday, 8 January 2015 06:10 (eleven years ago)
oh boy
http://www.statnews.com/2015/12/03/superbug-antibiotics-europe/
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 16:48 (ten years ago)
Fuck
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2016/05/26/the-superbug-that-doctors-have-been-dreading-just-reached-the-u-s/
― flappy bird, Thursday, 26 May 2016 18:47 (nine years ago)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/96/The_Stand_cover.jpg
― flappy bird, Thursday, 26 May 2016 18:54 (nine years ago)
uh oh
https://www.statnews.com/2017/01/12/nevada-woman-superbug-resistant
― mookieproof, Thursday, 12 January 2017 22:53 (nine years ago)
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-03595-3
Potentially good news about discovery of a new antibiotic. Obviously this will be some years away, subject to clinical testing etc etc. Was reading relatively recently that a lot of pharmaceutical companies don’t prioritise developing or researching new antibiotics anymore so this could be the biggest development in some time.
― colonic interrogation (gyac), Sunday, 16 November 2025 18:23 (four months ago)