Tell me : should I buy an ipod?

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I realise there may have been much discourse on this subject already and that the ILX massive may choose to roll their eyes and turn wearily away from my question. (Pls remember that I have been missing in action for almost a year - yes, I have posted once in a while but I haven't been *paying attention*. See the Rapture thread yesterday! But I'm back now!)

Anyway stuff that's on my mind -

1) I'm a PC user, not MAC. Does this matter? What tune-shuffling package do you need? Does it come with the iPod?

2)Is there any truth in this battery-life story? I read that they die after 18 months and you have to pay loads to get a replacement.

3)What's the biggest one you can get? 40MB? How many tracks is that roughly? How many does a 20MB hold?

4) Where can I get the best price?

5) Most importantly - are they *any good*? Are people with iPods generally happy with them? What little pitfalls and problems have you found.

Thanks people!

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 14:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Fucking cunting fucking iPod fucking TNT fucking T.

― Southall Nick (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 14:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I've still not recieved mine. No, having a PC doens't matter. You need iTunes wihich is downloadable for free from the Apple site. 40gig is the biggest. 20gig will hold about 3000 4-5 minute tunes at 160kbit

― Southall Nick (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)

The thing about batteries goes for all NiMh batteries, which all slowly lose power over their lifetime.

― Southall Nick (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 14:24 (twenty-two years ago)

They're beautiful, sound good, and are easy to use. Now where's mine you fucking cunts?

― Southall Nick (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 14:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Get an MP3 Discman instead.

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 14:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I love my iPod with a burning passion. Biggest one available is 40 MB as far as I know. My wife's had her iPod for quite a great deal longer than 18 months; just keep the thing charged, is the thing. I don't know what hoops PC users have to jump through to use an iPod, but I can't imagine they wouldn't be worth it. iPod totally RULES, especially if you got an organize-my-music-in-various-ways fetish. Which I got.

Nick I've had your iPod for weeks now, I keep waiting for you to drop by and pick it up

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 14:28 (twenty-two years ago)

DrC- no. buy good records instead ;)

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 14:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Can you get iPod's insured these days? I really want one, but am loathe to part with that much cash if its only going to get stolen/lost/drunkenly left on the back seat of the N47.

Dr C - the general consensus among most people I know is YES BUY ONE!

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 14:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Julio it just gives you an excuse to buy more good records! If you borrowed my iPod for a brisk walk and listened to Ayler's Goin' Home on it you'd be fully converted, I'd wager - it's like walking around on the moon

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 14:32 (twenty-two years ago)

my first iPod died two weeks ago after 20 months (harddrive failure) and on sunday i was a stone cold sucker and bought another (10% off sale). so far i've spent $700 on iPod's and i can't say i regret it (plus i'm poor!).

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 14:33 (twenty-two years ago)

if you buy one try and get a decent case for it - cos they seem to be made of the most scratchable material known to men. My flatmate has one and he seems to love it. If the price ever goes down i might get one too.

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 14:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Please can we stop talking about the fucking things.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 14:35 (twenty-two years ago)

matt, my ipod is covered with other gadgets in my home contents insurance, and it includes getting stolen or lost (or left on the tube)

― colette (a2lette), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 14:35 (twenty-two years ago)

1. no probs with PCs as long as you have either a firewire port on your PC (you can get a card for £20 if not), or get a USB-firewire cable (from apple shop, also about £20 i think). itunes is the software, i assume it comes with new ones or is easily downloadable.

2. i hope not...

3. 40 GIGABYTES, not MB! 40GB approx 10,000 songs, 20GB approx 5,000 (depending on whether we are talking ramones or yes).

4. mine was got off ebay where i think you can get a decent price from ppl upgrading to swanky new ones, but usual ebay rules apply (mine came all the way from muswell hill which helped!)

5. yes, they're great, although if you currently measure your journey to work by the length of an album as i did, it takes a bit of getting used to having it on random (and you *will* end up with it on random most of the time, listening to whole albums is now a thing of the past to me...)

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 14:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I listen to MORE whole albums on the iPod than I did before, that's one of my favorite things about it!

Nick how long have you been waiting?

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 14:39 (twenty-two years ago)

The thing about batteries goes for all NiMh batteries, which all slowly lose power over their lifetime.

True, and it goes for all rechargeables - they all last a few hundred recharge cycles, some suffer from memory effect, some don't. But the NiMH cell in my MD player, for instance, pops out on demand and costs less than a tenner to replace. The issue with the iPod battery, as I understood it, was that it was integral to the unit and Apple didn't offer spares. Now they do - how much does it cost, out of interest? Can you fit it yourself?

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 14:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, three weeks, but this is only because TNT Express Worldwide lost it within 5 miles of where it was being delivered to. I spent Friday making some secretary cry and making the depot manager accept liability for it. So I'm now waiting on a replacement.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 14:40 (twenty-two years ago)

What all the happy people above said. I found that I listen to my iPod strictly as a timekiller when going on extended trips or the like, but as that it functions superbly. (I was never a go-around-with-a-Walkman-in-general person.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 14:41 (twenty-two years ago)

It got from Taiwan to Broadclyst fine but couldn't the make it to the fucking university. I hope some cunt's nicked it and can't sell the damn thing on because it's got 'Auspicious Fish' engraved in the back.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 14:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Battery life is undoubtedly the weakest thing about iPods. I'm not so worried about the deterioration over time (you *can* get third party replacement kits for not that much money). More the day to day life. I only often get only 5 hours out of mine as I listen to it on shuffle a lot. Not good enough for a train trip down to London, even.

The supplied earphones don't bring out the best in them either.

I've detailed other moans on the main iPod thread. But overall - great, yeah, esp. for taking on holiday or round to friends and plugging into speakers.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 14:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I just got one (despite my tinnitus....silly, silly me) and it's great fun.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 14:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I find it interesting that having one changes some people's listening habits so that their listening is track based rather than album based.

I sometimes put mine on random if I can't think of anything I really want to listen to but most of the time it's just been brilliant at helping me listen to all the albums I buy/get from the library. In the past I wouldn't have got the chance to listen to albums properly in the way I can now.

It's the best thing ever though, I would recommend it whole heartedly. I run it on a PC with no problems using iTunes which is also great.

― mms (mms), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 14:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Keep it coming folks! I'm getting persuaded! What about prices (new)? Where's the best bet for a good deal?

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think you really get them discounted and I think you might have problems getting US vendors to ship to the UK.

John Lewis do free 2 year guarantees on all electrical goods I think, so they're a good bet.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Get your mate who works in the depot to nick one in transit. See what I did there?!

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

MP3 Discman = removable drive i.e. disc, price £99 or less, capacity = 700MG etc

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

matt, my ipod is covered with other gadgets in my home contents insurance, and it includes getting stolen

e.g. "unwittingly" "stolen" by fellow ilx0rs? :D

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 14:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Discmans are fat and do not fit in my pocket.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 14:58 (twenty-two years ago)

There's always ('always' = soon and expensively) Hi-MD.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 15:06 (twenty-two years ago)

http://img.dell.com/images/global/products/dj/dj_front_314.jpg

What about these new things that Dell has put out? Sexy, small, similar interface to ipod, $269 for 20G. Also comes with voice recorder standard. It is 2 oz heavier than the ipod though, but very slightly thinner.

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 15:23 (twenty-two years ago)

20 GB, obv.

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 15:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Fucking ugly though, innit.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 15:26 (twenty-two years ago)

you're just mad because you have a mail-order bride and she hasn't arrived yet.

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 15:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah but when she comes it's gonna be great. < /smut>

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 15:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Teeny I kiss you :)

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 15:34 (twenty-two years ago)

http://pocketcalculatorshow.com/forsale/graphics/helix-ghettoblaster.jpg

This is the only possible form of portable audio equipment

― Enrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 15:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha. I wish I had cause for an iPod, but I just don't know when I would use it. I don't really go running (although it might inspire me to work out more), and I don't do public transit. On half the road trips I go on, I'm driving. Everyone I know who has one is very happy with it though.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)

i am tempted to buy an ipod now although that battery life thing does worry me. it'd be great to be able to swap batteries and then long trains/flights can be accompanied by MOOSIC (when not watching crappy films on flights).

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 15:48 (twenty-two years ago)

That Dell thing looks OK. The interface (right down to the font) looks suspiciously similar to the iPod though - I thought it was Hewlett-Packard that Apple did a licensing deal with?

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 15:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I also see the the Dell has a scrollwheel like my aging Nokia phone. I find them great to use - probably better than the iPod touch sensitive wheel, which kind of annoys me (though it's great the way it accelerates when you are whizzing through thousands of tracks).

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyone know if there are car stereos with USB ports to either plug in an iPod or upload trax from same? I need to get a new stereo at some point, and I'd rather go the MP3 route rather than CDs, or both if possible.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 16:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I've not heard of them, but instead you can always just use one of those cassette tape adaptors of if you've no cassette deck in your car then you can get FM antennae that plug into your iPod and then tune your radio to the relevant frequency. They're illegal in the UK, though.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 16:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Hooray! Apple have just emailed me to confirm my replacement!

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 16:08 (twenty-two years ago)

They're replacing you?

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 16:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes. With a banana.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 16:11 (twenty-two years ago)

They really do think different.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 16:14 (twenty-two years ago)

oh yeah, don't wear the headphones supplied as i'm sure they scream MUG ME to youths, although grillions of people seem not to have realised this (in central london anyway).

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 16:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Nick, I've tried a wireless adaptor thing that transmits the iPod tunes to the deck on my previous stereo, with varying results. The adaptor itself uses batteries, and you often get radio-type interference during playback.

Ideally what I'd like is a stereo that can connect directly to the iPod and either allow realtime playback or downloadability of the iPod tunes to the stereo's hard drive...surely this must exist? I need to research this, yes.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 16:20 (twenty-two years ago)

that dell looks quite nice i think. i have an archos, its slightly clunky, but sturdy, i prefer it to the ipod, which reminds me of the silver paper from a kitkat

― Stringent Stepper (Stringent), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 16:25 (twenty-two years ago)

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apple are such bitches

― sunny successor (katharine), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:48 (nineteen years ago)

My brand new, week-old iPod is getting about 6 hours off a fully charged battery. The box says "up to 20." This is incredible fucking bullshit.

― Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:49 (nineteen years ago)

I can play mine for about 5 45-min journeys over 3 days before it runs out. What REALLY annoys me is how quickly it goes flat WHEN YOU DON'T EVEN USE IT.

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

I was going to fit mine myself but bottled out when I saw that a local watch battery repair place had started doing it for £40 or something.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:03 (nineteen years ago)

As is probably noted upthread somewhere, only do it if you don't mind iTunes. Because the iPod is basically a portable iTunes player.

Also things to keep in mind: Apple goes to ridiculous lengths to keep a bod from sharing files. To this end, you cannot (easily) move MP3s from an iPod to a computer, you cannot (easily) burn a CD composed of tracks on an iPod, and your iPod (technically) is "bonded" with your computer and might not be usable on another computer. And the earphones that come with are pretty much shit.

That said: I've had mine for several months and I'm pretty happy with it thus far. My last MP3 player lasted one month past the end of its rather short warranty. We'll have to see how much better the iPod fares.

Also: if your decision to buy an iPod is at all fueled by its video capabilities, you may want to wait for the next generation iPod. The video feature on the current iPod is nice but it's awfully small.

― Deric W. Haircare (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

I had an iPod for eighteen months before the battery finally went out. That's 22 bucks a month for a portable music player. Twice as much as XM or Sirius.

If I could replace the battery on my own, without having to use tweezers and a hairdryer or whatever, it'd be different. I mean, I can replace the battery in my goddammed truck without jimmy-rigging it or voiding a warranty. To hell with it.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

i've never had a problem using my ipod on other computers. re: moving tracks from your player to itunes, it's very easy (basically one click) and cheap ($8) to download p0dw0rks or something similar.

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

bah! i take it back, it's broke within 3 days of use. Although it was purchased second hand, should we just not buy second hand because we cannot trust anybody?

Today, I hate people.

i bought the sony walkman thing instead

― Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:52 (nineteen years ago)

i've never had a problem using my ipod on other computers. re: moving tracks from your player to itunes, it's very easy (basically one click) and cheap ($8) to download p0dw0rks or something similar.

i was pleasantly surprised to find that my pc-format ipod works fine on a mac, and that senuti let me transfer the songs back to the mac for free...

― toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

The iPod drive formats as... what? FAT32?

― sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

i have an awful lot of music on my hard drive, and am considering purchasing an ipod after my creative zen started becoming unreliable... is it particularly difficult/annoying/time-consuming to transfer selected chunks of the music on the hard drive to the ipod? i already listen to all my music via itunes.

― stevie, Saturday, 12 May 2007 10:44 (eighteen years ago)

You'll probably need a new version of iTunes but no, it's easy.

― Matt DC, Saturday, 12 May 2007 12:33 (eighteen years ago)

thanks matt!

― stevie, Saturday, 12 May 2007 12:57 (eighteen years ago)

sort of a combined computer/iPod question: I have a Mac, and a backup of my iTunes library on an extrenal firewire hard drive, and will soon be getting a laptop PC for college. I'm also thinking of getting an iPod, but I can't figure out how best to get all my choons onto both the iPod and the laptop (which unfortunately, doesn't have a firewire port). is there a way to transfer them from the iPod onto the laptop? and is the iPod linked to a single computer, or did I make that up?

― bernard snowy, Saturday, 12 May 2007 13:58 (eighteen years ago)

an ipod can't work (as intended) with macs and pcs at the same time - it's one or other - but a regular iPod doesn't have to be linked to a single computer. files bought off of iTunes Music Store are limited to a certain number of devices.

assuming your laptop and iPod are USB2 connectable, you could possibly transfer from Mac to PC using the iPod as an external hard drive. can PCs read unix formatted disks? if so you could format the iPod UFS and use it to transfer music to the laptop. you may then have to reformat it to make it work with iTunes.

― Alan, Saturday, 12 May 2007 14:20 (eighteen years ago)

okay, I'm reading the Wikipedia article now, and it says that the iPod is formatted as either FAT32 or HFS+ when you first connect it. but OS X can write to FAT32, right? so am I correct in thinking that I could connect it to my PC, allow the normal formatting to take place, then turn on the "Enable Disk Use" option and use it to transfer my music library from my Mac to my PC, where I would import it into iTunes and then, finally, put the songs back onto my iPod in a playable way?

― bernard snowy, Saturday, 12 May 2007 15:03 (eighteen years ago)

ipods will put hair on your chest and make you a he-man

― latebloomer, Saturday, 12 May 2007 15:07 (eighteen years ago)

ipods will put hair on your chest and make you a he-man

it is decided

― stevie, Saturday, 12 May 2007 15:43 (eighteen years ago)

I've used a FAT32 formatted ipod on both Windows and OSX with no issues. Just plug it into the Windows box first.

Also, if you can plug the ipod into the PC and the Mac, why can't you plug your external hard drive into either? My library is on an external drive, and both Windows and Mac iTunes use this to update my ipod with no problems, though admittedly it's easier to have one primary version of iTunes.

― joygoat, Saturday, 12 May 2007 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

next question - how to convert wavs to mp4s...

― stevie, Saturday, 12 May 2007 20:48 (eighteen years ago)

sorry, MOVs

― stevie, Saturday, 12 May 2007 21:29 (eighteen years ago)

Also, if you can plug the ipod into the PC and the Mac, why can't you plug your external hard drive into either? My library is on an external drive, and both Windows and Mac iTunes use this to update my ipod with no problems, though admittedly it's easier to have one primary version of iTunes.

-- joygoat, Saturday, May 12, 2007 11:32 AM (Yesterday)

I could, but I would need to buy a new one that connects via USB rather than Firewire, since the laptop I'm getting has no Firewire ports.

― bernard snowy, Sunday, 13 May 2007 06:53 (eighteen years ago)

PC software for mov to ipod compatible mp4s - search for videora ipod convertor, its the easiest to use. There is another good convertor called mediacoder, but its got a lot of things to configure.

― Sandy Blair, Sunday, 13 May 2007 08:27 (eighteen years ago)

I've had my Ipod mini for just over 2 years, and apart from a few problems at the start getting it to work with my computer it's generally been pretty good. However over the last few weeks the battery life's been noticeably shorter and the battery indicator on the display isn't reliable. THEN over the last couple of days I've been charging it up every night, listening to it for under two hours a day and it's died by 6.30pm on my way home. Tried to charge it up and it won't even switch on, the display is dead. Has this happened to anyone else? Has the battery totally gone and if so what should I do?

― Not the real Village People, Sunday, 13 May 2007 11:12 (eighteen years ago)

VideoWizard lets you convert your videos without needing to understand any computer lingo.

this is exactly my speed, thanks sandy!

― stevie, Sunday, 13 May 2007 11:35 (eighteen years ago)

i've had mine for over two years now and it's still running strong. even the battery! life would be filled with far less "music syncing up to the world" strangness without it.

― haitch, Sunday, 13 May 2007 12:47 (eighteen years ago)

ipod purchased. hair on chest. he-man status attained.

currently dumping music on there at the moment. and videos of sonic youth on Night Music in 1989. this is very exciting.

― stevie, Sunday, 13 May 2007 12:58 (eighteen years ago)

I replaced the battery in my three year old ipod last fall. It took like ten minutes and cost twenty bucks from ipodbattery.com or something similar, so it was well worth it as far as I'm concerned.

― joygoat, Monday, 14 May 2007 01:24 (eighteen years ago)

I wanna replace my 3 y.o. iPod, which I find increasingly too small (20 gb), but I have a feeling a new gen is just around the corner. Does anyone know anything about that?

― baaderonixx, Monday, 14 May 2007 08:37 (eighteen years ago)

No facts per se, but when my old iPod (also about 3yo) died earlier this year, I ran across a website somewhere that indicated where various Apple products were in their life cycle and its forecasts were in line with your feeling (so I bought a Nano). I forget exactly what they suggested was coming down the pike.

Don't remember the address, but Google is your friend. (Try searching for iPhone, I think that's how I ran across it - will be easier than searching for iPod.)

― mitya, Monday, 14 May 2007 08:42 (eighteen years ago)

if i put a sticker of snoopy on the back of my ipod, would i be voiding my warranty?

― stevie, Monday, 14 May 2007 17:24 (eighteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

I guess I'm just posting this here because I want sympathy, but my iPod fell out of my pocket while I getting out of a cab. She's gone. Stupid pockets that everything falls out of. Stupid stupid me.

So now I have to buy another one, and I'm annoyed at the demise of the 60 gig. 30 is fine, and I'll probably get another 30, but the only other option now is 80 gigs? That's a lot of damn iPod, man.

― kenan, Monday, 4 June 2007 17:56 (eighteen years ago)

Also, why does an 8 gig nano cost the same as a 30 gig regular?

― kenan, Monday, 4 June 2007 18:02 (eighteen years ago)

cost of flash memory is higher than HD, also apple are slapping a big margin on their most popular pod.

― Ed, Monday, 4 June 2007 18:03 (eighteen years ago)

flash vs. hard drive innit

brrrrrrrng xpost!

― Jaq, Monday, 4 June 2007 18:03 (eighteen years ago)

I have filled up my 4 gig mini, which I luv (it's pink and all) and I am sorely sorely tempted by an 80 gigger which sounds immense and should last me until I DIE but only black or white??

― Jaq, Monday, 4 June 2007 18:06 (eighteen years ago)

You can upgrade the hard disks on the minis quite easily if you fancy a diy upgrade. (also put flash in if you like). Just google for tips.

― Ed, Monday, 4 June 2007 18:09 (eighteen years ago)

Jaq. Wait till a couple weeks after WWDC ends

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, 4 June 2007 18:11 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know a thing about flash drives, since I've never even considered one. Just too darn small.

― kenan, Monday, 4 June 2007 18:11 (eighteen years ago)

Excellent point JW, thanks!

― Jaq, Monday, 4 June 2007 18:16 (eighteen years ago)

wwdc?

― sunny successor, Monday, 4 June 2007 19:31 (eighteen years ago)

world wide developer's conference

― Jaq, Monday, 4 June 2007 19:34 (eighteen years ago)

six months pass...

My creative zen jukebox xtra thingy that I've had for years and years has finally kicked the bucket. They no longer make it and I'm sure there's now something better available anyway. So, ilx, please share your tales of ipods here. Should I buy an ipod? Or something else?

― mouse, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 04:11 (eighteen years ago)

The iPod is just fine, but it has a ton of haters, all of whom will submit their lists of absolutely necessary features that it doesn't have but which the X-Tron Media Commando does have. If you were a feature creature, then you probably would know all of these anyways and wouldn't ask for advice here, so just get an iPod.

― libcrypt, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 05:58 (eighteen years ago)

I just got an iPod Touch, and, now that it is jailbroken, it seems completely awesometastic. THAT is how much a laptop should weigh.

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 06:07 (eighteen years ago)

Hmmm. Anyone have a toshiba gigabeat? Or one of the current creative models? Or something by cowon?

― mouse, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 21:14 (eighteen years ago)

what does jailbroken mean? i want something that is just basically like a hard drive that plays music, not something that is a prissy pain in the ass.

― bell_labs, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

Please to advise where I may purchase a X-Tron Media Commando? Kthxbye.

― SeekAltRoute, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 21:38 (eighteen years ago)

lol get a mac

― DG, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 21:38 (eighteen years ago)

Jailbroken means you can get past Apple's imposed limitations, install 3rd party apps -- it basically becomes a PDA with a kick-ass interface that, oh yeah, happens to play mp3s. Which is kinda more what I want. I wanted a little handheld web browser.

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 21:54 (eighteen years ago)

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