Who says GWBush isn't an open & accessible Preznit?

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why, he's going to be on MSNBC's "Meet the Press" on sunday! A full hour!

surely, Tim Russert will press him relentlessly on the facts of the day. Who wants to place bets as to whether any actual journalism takes place or not?

I do hope they start talking about Mars & high school steroids, too...

Kingfish Funyun (Kingfish), Thursday, 5 February 2004 20:53 (twenty-two years ago)

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Kingfish Funyun (Kingfish), Thursday, 5 February 2004 20:55 (twenty-two years ago)

It'll start with him asking for some ribs, obv.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 February 2004 21:00 (twenty-two years ago)

why do i think that this is gonna be like "vladimir posner questions leonid brezhnev about afghanistan?"

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 5 February 2004 21:01 (twenty-two years ago)

what's he gonna call Russert? Rusty? T-Russosaurus?

Huckadelphia (Horace Mann), Thursday, 5 February 2004 21:01 (twenty-two years ago)

what's he gonna call Russert? Rusty? T-Russosaurus?

wusspants.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 5 February 2004 21:02 (twenty-two years ago)

or "paper tiger"

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 5 February 2004 21:02 (twenty-two years ago)

"Mr. President -- "

"Hm, you've got a pretty little mouth."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 February 2004 21:03 (twenty-two years ago)

"pumpkinhead"

Kingfish Funyun (Kingfish), Thursday, 5 February 2004 21:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Stretch.

Huckadelphia (Horace Mann), Thursday, 5 February 2004 21:05 (twenty-two years ago)

beeyotch

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 5 February 2004 21:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Dumplin'

Huckadelphia (Horace Mann), Thursday, 5 February 2004 21:08 (twenty-two years ago)

If I didn't have to work I'd try and catch this on the teevee. However, Im not too good at restraining the torrents of rage unleashed by our popular wartime preznit and tim fucking russert.

bill stevens (bscrubbins), Thursday, 5 February 2004 21:26 (twenty-two years ago)

It's actually always good to see him do anything he's not prepared for... I'm sure they'll hit him with a couple questions that will thoroughly stymie him.

Here's what I'd ask him:

"Lyndon Johnson, the greatest modern proponent of big goverment, father of the Great Society, Commander of the ill-fated Vietnam adventure, etc., increased spending 4% annually during his presidency... that included the Space Race and Cold War."

"You, however... a REPUBLICAN.. have increased spending by 8% annually. What gives?"

andy, Thursday, 5 February 2004 21:36 (twenty-two years ago)

"...Uh, we're goin' to the moon!...and mars!"

Doobie Keebler (Charles McCain), Thursday, 5 February 2004 21:57 (twenty-two years ago)

"What do you think of that pus-filled mob of LIARS that are the BBC?"

Oh wait, this is not on Fox.

donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 5 February 2004 21:59 (twenty-two years ago)

someone should e-mail this cartoon to mr. russert (and cc: mr. bowie):

http://www.calpundit.com/blogphotos/Blog_Danziger_Bush.gif

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 6 February 2004 00:53 (twenty-two years ago)

people making softball claims must not watch meet the press. russert is easily the best and toughest television interviewer. he's also the master of the gotcha clip.

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 6 February 2004 14:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I would love to see George Bush in a situation like Prime Minister Paul Martin faced a coupla nights ago--live on tv answering direct questions from actual non-jounralist Canadians.

cybele (cybele), Friday, 6 February 2004 14:49 (twenty-two years ago)

people making softball claims must not watch meet the press. russert is easily the best and toughest television interviewer. he's also the master of the gotcha clip.
-- Yanc3y (ystrickle...), February 6th, 2004.

He has a real talent for asking the tough questions... and not allowing his guests to answer.

David Allen (David Allen), Friday, 6 February 2004 15:02 (twenty-two years ago)

He was on Homicide once, so he's okay with me.

Huckadelphia (Horace Mann), Friday, 6 February 2004 15:04 (twenty-two years ago)

apparently, it's going to be done live-to-tape tomorrow, to be broadcast the next day.

Kingfish Funyun (Kingfish), Friday, 6 February 2004 15:13 (twenty-two years ago)

cuz Georgie don't like to wake up early on Sundays.
I'm pretty sure that most of the Sunday morning shows are done live-to-tape.

Huckadelphia (Horace Mann), Friday, 6 February 2004 15:14 (twenty-two years ago)

(*insert hacky Jay Leno-style joke about guarding against pundit breast-flashing here*)

Kingfish Funyun (Kingfish), Friday, 6 February 2004 15:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Off topic, hey do you think that Conan's Little Jay might be on that new Fox show?

Huckadelphia (Horace Mann), Friday, 6 February 2004 15:20 (twenty-two years ago)

people making softball claims must not watch meet the press. russert is easily the best and toughest television interviewer. he's also the master of the gotcha clip.

when russert is interviewing Democrats. not necessarily when he's interviewing Republicans.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 6 February 2004 15:40 (twenty-two years ago)

hmm, wonder if this will be on our MSNBC what i get on satellite, i think it's just a feed of the american version...

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 6 February 2004 15:47 (twenty-two years ago)

eisbar that's patently untrue. russert comes at everyone.

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 6 February 2004 15:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Must make for some awkward pauses.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 February 2004 15:58 (twenty-two years ago)

"'Meet the Press', brought to you today by 'Brawny Paper Towels!'"

Kingfish Funyun (Kingfish), Friday, 6 February 2004 16:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Excerpts surface! And they're not very promising.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 February 2004 14:21 (twenty-two years ago)

it's on now. This is going to be a long hour.

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 8 February 2004 15:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Any particular moments of, uh, grandeur?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 February 2004 16:29 (twenty-two years ago)

'On his own military service, Mr Bush criticised the senior Democrats who have suggested that he did not show up for duty in the Alabama National Guard in 1972 where he served during the Vietnam era.

"They're just wrong. There may be no evidence, but I did report; otherwise I wouldn't have been honourably discharged," he said.'

Cough, chortle.

suzy (suzy), Sunday, 8 February 2004 17:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm a war president, really!

It's interesting that he finally said something like this, though:

He said it would be to learn lessons from the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq to help future decisions about countries such as Iran and North Korea, once labelled by Mr Bush as part of an "axis of evil".

He said the Iraq war was necessary in part because Saddam Hussein was a "madman", though he conceded that there were other "madmen" leading nations he said the use of force was not always necessary.

In North Korea, for example, he said "the diplomacy is just beginning".

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 February 2004 17:11 (twenty-two years ago)

my favorite part was when he compared himself to reagan as they've both been immensely unpopular presidents, especially internationally, and said, "and that's not bad company to be in!"

j c (j c), Sunday, 8 February 2004 17:12 (twenty-two years ago)

At least he didn't say "And we're both doing great right now!"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 February 2004 17:12 (twenty-two years ago)

If you want to be a war president, start by serving your fair share when asked to by the Government and don't wuss your way out via Daddykins.

I wonder what he means by 'diplomacy'.

According to gossip Nancy Reagan hates him.

suzy (suzy), Sunday, 8 February 2004 17:14 (twenty-two years ago)

GOODNESS.

ModJ (ModJ), Sunday, 8 February 2004 17:16 (twenty-two years ago)

TRANSCRIPT FUN

Kingfish Funyun (Kingfish), Sunday, 8 February 2004 18:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow, I could hardly listen to it, because.. he kept saying the same thing over and over.. and was talking like the viewers were at a 6th-grade comprehension level, which was terribly strange, because I'm pretty sure whoever gets up to watch MTP on a Sunday morning has some basic level of knowledge:

"Again, I repeat to you, the capacity to have good intelligence means that a president can make good calls about fighting this war on terror."

"And the American people need to know they got a president who sees the world the way it is. And I see dangers that exist, and it's important for us to deal with them."

"Saddam Hussein was dangerous with weapons. Saddam Hussein was dangerous with the ability to make weapons. He was a dangerous man in the dangerous part of the world."

[insert Dean Scream here] Aaaaaarrrghhh! WHY?

daria g (daria g), Sunday, 8 February 2004 19:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Russert: You were both in Skull and Bones, the secret society.

President Bush: It's so secret we can't talk about it.

Cooooool.

may pang (maypang), Sunday, 8 February 2004 20:25 (twenty-two years ago)

^ This means that his hazing had homosexual elements to it.

Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 8 February 2004 21:24 (twenty-two years ago)

what hazing doesn't?

Kingfish Funyun (Kingfish), Sunday, 8 February 2004 21:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Daria, what's so strange about GWB talking at 6th-grade level? It would be stranger if he started using all big words in the right order, but that did for Dad so...

A friend's husband is doing his law degree at Yale (he has a PhD. already and was the head of a Clinton White House task force). He is doing this degree EXPRESSLY to enter politics as a candidate afterward. His dad was also a former head of the FDA. What are the odds on S&B wanting him to break bread with them?

suzy (suzy), Sunday, 8 February 2004 23:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Russert sure let Bush go on WAY too long with some of those answers which never addressed the actual questions.

I can't believe Bush has had a grand total of 3 press conferences, almost all of them happening around 9/11.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Sunday, 8 February 2004 23:36 (twenty-two years ago)

He just went on there with a plan on what to say and did not appear to pay attention to actual questions. A personal favourite from the transcript:

Bush: See, free societies are societies that don't develop weapons of mass terror and don't blackmail the world.

suzy (suzy), Sunday, 8 February 2004 23:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Russert sure let Bush go on WAY too long with some of those answers which never addressed the actual questions.

The approach might have been 'give 'em enough rope.'

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 February 2004 00:08 (twenty-two years ago)

The thing I always hope Russert will do is ignore answers that are not answered and just repeat the question verbatim. He almost never does, and his followups are always so passive. Those blowhards at "60 Minutes" are just as bad--they just rely on the fact that all their stories will be packaged later on in a narrative and they'll always ultimately have the upper hand.

don weiner, Monday, 9 February 2004 00:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Don, I think you'd love Jeremy Paxman. He will ask a wriggling politico a question and if presented with an evasive answer will just keep on asking the same question verbatim. If that isn't enough to prise open the squirmy fucker official, he'll just say 'right, so we're not getting a straight answer from you (pause to allow person to splutter) and now I'm afraid we're all out of time!'

I'm waiting for one of those backgrounds that BushCo are so fond of using as propaganda in the background of press conferences to say 'open and accessible'. Hee.

suzy (suzy), Monday, 9 February 2004 00:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't believe Bush has had a grand total of 3 press conferences, almost all of them happening around 9/11.

I think the number is somewhere in the teens. However, when you compare it to other presidents it looks friggin rediculous. The other president who had similar numbers was Nixon, which makes sense when you consider alot of the admin officials are former Nixon types.

bill stevens (bscrubbins), Monday, 9 February 2004 00:58 (twenty-two years ago)

hmm. let's see if the Daily Show has fun with this tomorrow night...

Kingfish Funyun (Kingfish), Monday, 9 February 2004 01:02 (twenty-two years ago)

CLASSIC panic attack when Russert says "so was this a war of choice, or a war of necessity?" - Bush's reaction put me in mind of those tiny workers who live inside Woody Allen's brain in Sleeper - klaxons ringing, ten guys yanking on a pulley for one side of his mouth, the eybrow team completely out of sorts, the foreman yelling "abort, ABORT!!!!!" It's Grant, Mr. President. Grant is buried in Grant's tomb.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 9 February 2004 01:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Wasn't that "Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Sex"?

ModJ (ModJ), Monday, 9 February 2004 01:37 (twenty-two years ago)

um, er, uh, well, that's an interesting - YES

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 9 February 2004 01:40 (twenty-two years ago)

'who will bring great harm to America' = hmmm, does he have new intelligence? meanwhile...

stevem (blueski), Monday, 9 February 2004 18:05 (twenty-two years ago)

who's up for chilling bouts of madness:


I'm a war president. I make decisions here in the Oval Office in foreign policy
matters with war on my mind. Again, I wish it wasn't true, but it is true. And the
American people need to know they got a president who sees the world the way it
is. And I see dangers that exist, and it's important for us to deal with them.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 9 February 2004 18:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm wondering where the fuck all the ILX conservatives are, they seem to STILL be in hiding. Come out, defend your man!

Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 9 February 2004 18:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Mellow dee to thread.

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 9 February 2004 18:13 (twenty-two years ago)

here is the remix courtesy of Reuters:

BUSH: Well, because he had the capacity to have a weapon, make a weapon. We
thought he had weapons. The international community thought he had weapons.
But he had the capacity to make a weapon and then let that weapon fall into the
hands of a shadowy terrorist network. It's important for people to understand the
context in which I made a decision here in the Oval Office. I'm dealing with a
world in which we have gotten struck by terrorists with airplanes, and we get
intelligence saying that there is, you know, we want to harm America. And the
worst nightmare scenario for any president is to realize that these kind of terrorist
networks had the capacity to arm up with some of these deadly weapons, and then
strike us. And the President of the United States' most solemn responsibility is to
keep this country secure. And the man was a threat, and we dealt with him, and we
dealt with him because we cannot hope for the best. We can't say, Let's don't deal
with Saddam Hussein. Let's hope he changes his stripes, or let's trust in the
goodwill of Saddam Hussein. Let's let us, kind of, try to contain him.
Containment doesn't work with a man who is a madman. And remember, Tim, he
had used weapons against his own people.e changes his stripes, or let's trust in the
goodwill of Saddam Hussein. Let's let us, kind of, try to contain him.
Containment doesn't work with a man who is a madman. And remember, Tim, he
had used weapons against his own people.e changes his stripes, or let's trust in the
goodwill of Saddam Hussein. Let's let us, kind of, try to contain him.
Containment doesn't work with a man who is a madman. And remember, Tim, he
had used weapons against his own people.e changes his stripes, or let's trust in the
goodwill of Saddam Hussein. Let's let us, kind of, try to contain him.
Containment doesn't work with a man who is a madman. And remember, Tim, he
had used weapons against his own people.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 9 February 2004 18:18 (twenty-two years ago)

my favorite story today-sorry, if this has already come up-was the president of CNN admitting that the networks may have been a little hard on Dean by playing the scream over 600 times in 4 days.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 9 February 2004 18:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Hilariously convenient, in a black comedy sense.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 February 2004 18:22 (twenty-two years ago)

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39840000/jpg/_39840103_zarqawi_ap203b.jpg

"...Kneel before Zod!"

Kingfish Funyun (Kingfish), Monday, 9 February 2004 18:24 (twenty-two years ago)

all the ILX conservatives

There are any?

I guess I qualify more than most, though.

I give Bush a D+. In his defense, he didn't fuck up too badly, which is the only way of measuring a television "performance" by a pol. He apparently has conviction in his actions, which I suppose is good. But really, he came off as desperate in trying to defend the Iraq thing--repeating himself over and over is bad strategy. His defense of massive new spending programs was dishonest in the way it was parsed.

The biggest problem are guys like Russert who think they are going to trap him. No, Tim, that doesn't ever happen with you. Who does Russert think he is? When you get a pol against the wall, they just evade. Russert is slightly more pressing, but like all the rest he is a lot more worried about keeping his job than going on the attack and keep repeating the question until it gets answered. But every pol who goes on there knows that all they have to do is repeat the talking points ad nauseum, and Russert will just take it like a bitch.

don weiner, Monday, 9 February 2004 18:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Russert is a lapdog. he's pals with these people. he just has to make it look good. like pro wrestling.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 9 February 2004 18:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Bush releases payroll records to prove he was not AWOL from the Air National Guard, but press seems to know this proves nothing.

badgerminor (badgerminor), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 17:34 (twenty-two years ago)

McLellan is SUCH a tool.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 17:40 (twenty-two years ago)

In fact, this really needs a new thread of its own.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 17:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I like mister Question.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 17:44 (twenty-two years ago)

He's a quick fellow on the draw, that one.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 17:46 (twenty-two years ago)

hmmm -- here's Andrew Sullivan himself suddenly realizing that the sunday chat revealed things far more distressing than originally thought, even to a die-hard apologist.

Kingfish Funyun (Kingfish), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 17:48 (twenty-two years ago)

OK, let me put this gently here. Is he out of his mind?

Beautiful.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 17:52 (twenty-two years ago)

We have a few options here: The president doesn't know what he's talking about, or he's lying, or he trusts people telling him lies. But it is undeniable that this president is not on top of the most damaging part of his legacy--the catastrophe he is inflicting on our future fiscal health.

hmmmmm.

Kingfish Funyun (Kingfish), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 17:58 (twenty-two years ago)

All three work -- all too well.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 18:00 (twenty-two years ago)

"I'm a war president. I make decisions here in the Oval Office in foreign policy matters with war on my mind," he said.
Jon Stewert put it best when he said "Why couldn't you have told us this back in, say, 2000?"

Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 19:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Prolly cause Daddy taught him that scaring your prospective voters ain't the bullet to getting elected

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 22:53 (twenty-two years ago)

its a rhetorical question, nichole.

$, Tuesday, 10 February 2004 23:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I knew that. Merci.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 23:21 (twenty-two years ago)


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