Tell me about 14-year-old you

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Orbit (Orbit), Friday, 6 February 2004 10:36 (twenty-two years ago)

(but with more masturbating)

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 6 February 2004 10:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Fine, be like that!

Orbit (Orbit), Friday, 6 February 2004 10:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, he's pretty on the money (shot)

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 6 February 2004 10:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I was gonna say "Shoot me now", but, er...

Orbit (Orbit), Friday, 6 February 2004 10:41 (twenty-two years ago)

do girls go for it like crazy in their teens too? (tell me its true)

mullygrubber (gaz), Friday, 6 February 2004 10:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Give the magnum opus posse a little time to file copy please...

suzy (suzy), Friday, 6 February 2004 10:43 (twenty-two years ago)

As ten but with glasses, football, Orwell, wanking and Mega City Four.

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Friday, 6 February 2004 10:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Like Sick but without MC4 and with Manic Street Preachers. Actually, without glasses, they came a bit later. And not football either, never liked that. Orwell and wanking, then. How I've grown.

Enrique (Enrique), Friday, 6 February 2004 10:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Mind your own fucking business.

Marcello Carlin, Friday, 6 February 2004 10:47 (twenty-two years ago)

said 14 not 40

stevem (blueski), Friday, 6 February 2004 10:48 (twenty-two years ago)

all i remember about being 14 was being kicked out of class, fancying lots of girls, and really really liking the Hummingbirds and acid house.

the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 6 February 2004 10:48 (twenty-two years ago)

It's 1992 and I'm having a horrible time. School sucks although English class with Miss P*ascal is cool - she is barely older than us and spend half the class talking about Primal Scream which is quite amusing because as David Baddiel said on the Mary Whiehouse Experience last night 'they're really atrocious!' She gives me 93% for my story though and embarasses me in front of the class by saying so - I love it really.

My Grandad died of lung cancer - I can't remember if I went to the funeral or not. I spend most of the time on the Amiga playing games and dealing with unbearable teen angst. I've been questioning the whole point of existence for about a year now - I still kinda believe in God and reckon the Devil is out to get me sometimes. Existential panics and depressive stints aside I get up at 5.30 every morning to do this stupid paper round and get £13 a week - soon I will do two and get a whopping £20 which i spend on blank cassettes to record the Radio 1 Essential Selection mainly - Pete Tong played this great hardcore track that samples The Young Ones last week. my favourite tune at the moment is probably Kicks Like A Mule's 'The Bouncer' - i wish i was old enough to go to raves.

Still go to my Dad's every Sunday - none of us really make much effort and just watch the football on TV or something. I wish things were very different.

I think I have the worst acne ever and loads of people call me names - I keep trying not to get into fights with people during breaktime cos the last time that happened I realised I was actually useless and nearly had an asthma attack. don't like taking shit from these bastards tho. i can't wait to get out of here really, i dream about running away to the beach, which one i'm not sure - and if i can persuade K*lly C*****r to come with then bonus - not very likely tho is it? i had my chance and blew it - unless it was a wind up all along, which is possible...

stevem (blueski), Friday, 6 February 2004 11:03 (twenty-two years ago)

OK fine.
I was 14 in 1978.

I live in Southern California for the first part of the year. The stpry follows the story posted on the "10" thread, but things reach their logical conclusion. With my dad not paying child support and my mom working 2 jobs, we still don't have money for food and rent. I have been mom to my now 7-year old brother since he was 3, feeding him, changing him, doing his laundry, now making his lunch and trying to teach him how not to be a brat. That doesn't work very well because he has dyslexia, is hyperactive, and has learning disabilities. Of course it is 1978 so not a lot is publicized about this, and we are poor and my mom is not educated so he doesn't get any help.

I love KISS, Queen, Led Zeppelin, Alice Cooper, and punk hasn't quite hit the US yet, at least not in the suburbs. It will take one more year before I get into it. For now I am a huge Star Wars fan, and have seen Close Encounters of the Third Kind and love all things sci-fi.

For this school year (8th grade), I have exactly two pairs of pants and I wear them all year. We really can't afford any. The welfare office tells my mom she makes too much money to qualify for services. Seeing that the only way we can eat is because people from the church bring boxes of food, this strikes me as insane. I wait in the hot car while she pleads with them, and comes out angry and hopeless.

She can't make the payment on the mobile home anymore. The sales agreement says if she sells it, she has to sell it back to the park owner she bought it from, so she gets a less than fair price.

A Mexican friend of hers lets the three of us move into a bedroom of their house in Costa Mesa while my mom figures out what to do. Remember this is a time of record inflation, high prices, high interest rates, and joblessness in the US. She is laid off from her job in the electronics factory.

Sitting in the room in July, mom has the "talk" with me. She says she can't support us, and that she will have to give us up to the State, put us in foster care. She says I might be separated from my little brother. I don't remember any of the conversation after that, but the next thing I know I am on a plane to my grandparents house in North Carolina, alone with my brother. Mom has stayed behind to see if she can get a job, get back on her feet, and then send for us.

My little brother is sick with a cold, and I give him his medicine on the plane. I pray he doesn't have one of his fever/asthma episodes before we make the 6 hour flight. My first-ever period starts, on Delta Airlines, somewhere over Arkansas.

The plane touches down, after an eternity in Wilmington, N.C. I have to take my grandmother aside and tell her the situation, not an easy thing. We stop at Paul's Place, a rural combination hot dog stand and grocery store to buy pads.

I start school (9th grade) in August. The school bus come through the fog from where it starts on the "wring" side of the tracks. I am the first white kid on the bus, and it comes at 5:15am. It winds over miles and miles of rural area, stopping in front of papered shacks with wells out front, outhouses, and wood stoves for heat; it bumps down unpaved white chalk roads in the fog; sometimes the soft earth gives way and the bus slides into the ditch. We wait hours for another bus to come get us while somehow the bus is righted. On those days, and when we get stuck in the fog near the river and have to stop, we don't get to school until about noon. I am one of three white kids on the bus.

I am one of about 30 white kids in a 90% black public school. They put all the white kids in the same classroom. I get to know the black kids on the bus and on the volleyball team that I play on. Because the kids come from miles around, it is very isolating. My classes are held in a trailer, with a leaking roof and a hole in the floor in the back corner. It stays like that the whole year.

The house is old and unheated except for an oil burning stove from 1930 in the front room. We have our own well, and have to light a heatlamp in the pumphouse and leave the faucets dripping in the winter so the pipes don't freeze and burst. A tornado bounces over our house in a storm while I have a fever. I stay home sick, listening to Alice Cooper. Across the street prisoners are in a chain gang digging a ditch. I turn the music up.

I am a 14 year old girl, dying on the vine, on a rural highway in the middle of nowhere.

Orbit (Orbit), Friday, 6 February 2004 11:05 (twenty-two years ago)

finally admitted i liked popular music & bought deep purple's machine head. refused to shave off the bum fluff i was now being teased for. was the tallest boy in the year. was the smartest boy in the year. was the best at sport in the year. was they shyest boy in the year. lay on my bed reading sci-fi and fantasy. drew pictures designed to shock my elders. wanked.

mullygrubber (gaz), Friday, 6 February 2004 11:05 (twenty-two years ago)

graffiti writing, skateboarding, school-skipping little shit who was too busy waxing intellectual and buying 7"s to learn any kind of valuable skill. How I loathe him.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 6 February 2004 11:06 (twenty-two years ago)

ah yes 7"s. they were still going strong when i was 14. it was a golden age.

the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 6 February 2004 11:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Halfway through a major Queen-loving (the band, not the monarchy) phase. Discovered using my hand to beat off with. First kiss. side-parted hair. Skinny as fuck. Still a kid.

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 6 February 2004 11:09 (twenty-two years ago)

its weird but i vcan't remeber who i had a crush on then. later, yes. but 14? i mean, i must have: i was a pretty pathetic character, maybe i've blanked it.

mullygrubber (gaz), Friday, 6 February 2004 11:15 (twenty-two years ago)

i can pretty much remember my 14 year old crushes as clear as day. their names too, i think

the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 6 February 2004 11:17 (twenty-two years ago)

i had zero crushes at 14

Orbit (Orbit), Friday, 6 February 2004 11:18 (twenty-two years ago)

i can remember my 12 year old crushes & then...my 15 year old crushes.

i think i maybe had a breakdown.

mullygrubber (gaz), Friday, 6 February 2004 11:19 (twenty-two years ago)

wot! no crushes orbit?

mullygrubber (gaz), Friday, 6 February 2004 11:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Spent largely at the Gauntlet machine at the back of the Buttery.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 6 February 2004 11:21 (twenty-two years ago)

nope. i don't think i had a proper crush until i was 16.

Orbit (Orbit), Friday, 6 February 2004 11:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Sounds like you could have done with something to dream about Orbit, although I'm guessing you probably did, just not on the crush front.

Anna (Anna), Friday, 6 February 2004 11:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I hated school. Being the only kid with silver buttons on my blazer marked me out from day one as posh. The Midland Bank bag marked me out as square. 99% in Maths marked me out as a boff. I was in the middle of a three-year crush on Wayne Na1sh and had his name scratched into my geometry set tin lid. He, and other boys, grabbed my tits and arse when I walked past but nobody would go out with a posh, square boff. I longed to be part of the in-crowd. I listened to 45s on Dad's old record player that he'd given us, Abba and the Singing Postman dropping one by one from the stack to the turntable. I got Now That's What I Call Music for Christmas. I discovered rap and loved it, indescriminately. Run DMC, LL Cool J, Dream Warriers, Vanilla Ice. Mum would still be at work when I got home from school so I'd eat a six-pack of penguins and a big bowl of ice cream sprinkled with Ovaltine watching the programmes for little kids. I started to like playing the piano and didn't need to be forced to practise any more. When I finished an end of year exam early, I sat playing Mozart's Sonata in C on the desk, probably annoying the crap out of my classmates. I read Just Seventeen cover to cover every week.

Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 6 February 2004 11:39 (twenty-two years ago)

This was 9th-10th grades for me, 1992 I think. Living in Bethesda, MD, going to a small private school in DC (where I was one of few Americans) and travelling there and back every day on the Metro, listening to "alternative rock" mix tapes I made from the radio on my Walkman--still lots of Depeche Mode and similar things, though over the summer I will start listening to the Violent Femmes and Blondie and seeking out more stuff on my own rather than relying on the radio. I meet my first real boyfriend while taking German at summer camp, only to dump him heartlessly in the fall. I also meet someone at camp that year who quickly became my best friend throughout my teen years--we're still very close, she's my oldest friend and we still visit each other--though at the time she lives in New York and we talk a lot on the phone when we each get home from school. She approached me because I have a zine that I write for and edit (it's about the only thing that keeps me going during the school year), and we have a good time joking around and dancing to the B52s at the weekend camp dances. In 10th grade the year gets worse, my mom and I fight a lot, I have some friends at school but no one particularly close, I get depressed and really hate what I see as the conformist systems in high school--something that will lead to my dropping out the following year, but this year no escape seems possible, and fuck--writing this has made me remember how utterly shit things got around the time I turned 15, and I don't want to think about that time right now.

I feel like I have to end this on a positive note, and the summer I was 14 now strikes me as a genuinely happy time.

sgs (sgs), Friday, 6 February 2004 11:43 (twenty-two years ago)

When I finished an end of year exam early, I sat playing Mozart's Sonata in C on the desk

Madchen, you just made me spit out my coffee on my keyboard.

1984/5: I stopped playing football for Stevenage Colts. I stopped reading 'Roy of the Rovers' and '2000AD' and started reading 'Smash Hits' and the 'NME'. I became a vegetarian. I was doing very well academically but didn't have any friends outside of school. I watched a lot of telly. I bought 'Hatful of Hollow' on my birthday, entered the reclusive dark back bedroom of my teenage years and didn't come out again until 1989.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 6 February 2004 11:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I wear pink tights, thick eyeliner, leopardskin and lots of junk jewellery. My hair is dyed red and blue, and looks terrible. I want to look like 80s Madonna, even though it's 1999. I'm so obsessed with my own appearance I will sometimes stay off school pretending to be sick if my skin looks particularly bad that day. I love Suede and the Manics, and listen to bad forgotten BritPop bands like Marion, Strangelove and Menswe@r. I go to about Rachel Stamp gigs. I quote Eddie Izzard a lot. I wonder if I'm ever going to grow any breasts, or if any boys will ever fancy me. I go to an all girls school and don't know any real boys, but fill my desk with pictures of Brett Anderson, Nicky Wire and Robert Smith. I read a lot of books to so I can feel superior to other girls at school, and think of myself as a Socialist (I somehow got through the whole of 'The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists'). I don't remember much that I actually did. I must've just watched a lot of TV.

Cathy (Cathy), Friday, 6 February 2004 12:09 (twenty-two years ago)

It's 1984. I've entered High School in Scarborough, a crappy suburb of Toronto. I didn't like "Junior High" (grades 7-8 only) much, and I'm sure I won't like this next stage. I didn't join any clubs or do any sports, but I was involved in the music program. My high school was very ethnically mixed, which instead of providing an environment of cultural acceptance, fostered an atmosphere of separation and cliques. The "ginos" hung out at the front, metalheads in the back smoking area, etc. My friends were a mix - we didn't really fit into the cliques, so we hung out together, albeit slightly towards the preppie world. I did well in school, got very good grades, and only occasionally got into trouble for talking too much or causing a scene for some reason or other. I didn't like my school or the people in it. There was a bully named Mike who had it in for me and would tease me relentlessly in Drama class (Drama seems an unlikely place for bullies but it was an easy credit so they flocked to it).

I wasn't that cool, but I was far from a geek. My friends and I got drunk for dances that year, which made us "badasses" of sorts, considering we were only "Grade 9ers". Our dances were organised by the ginos, which was good because they had wicked DJ/PA/Lighting equipment - the end result being our dances were the hot event for Scarborough teens. I listened to a LOT of Depeche Mode, Def Leppard and Duran Duran, and random dance music. My biggest event was going to see Duran Duran at Maple Leaf Gardens (March 5, 1984 - my first ever concert). They filmed the video for "The Reflex" video that night and holy trinity was I excited about that. I also liked a lot of electro-funk at the time, and I was really starting to get into "different" music, thanks to an abnormally good radio station called CFNY, which I had just started to listen to. I got in big trouble one night when I went "downtown" to an all-ages dance club called "Club Z". A friend's older brother drove us down. I thought it was amazing. They played Trans-X's "Living On Video", Blancmange, Depeche Mode and other stuff of that sort, which made me very happy. I got home very late and was grounded for a few weeks. I got on OK with my parents, though. I was a good kid (no brothers or sisters), and they were good to me.

I was a late bloomer in the girls department, but I did have a couple crushes, which went no-where. I was a bit shy, and to be honest, my school didn't have too many cute girls anyway. The biggest excitement I got was slow-dancing at the dances, and during a summer trip to England, I made out regularly with the daughter of a family friend (she was 12), and we became a long-distance "couple" of sorts for a few months. We wrote each other many romantic letters. Yes, that's right - LETTERS, put into the post. I can hardly fathom what that world was like right now... Oddly, I'm visiting this same girl in Oxford next month.

Life was OK, but it had frustrations. I liked going on band trips and doing stupid things on the weekends with my friends. It was the starting point of a lot of things for me, and a strange year.

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Friday, 6 February 2004 12:26 (twenty-two years ago)

It's 1997, I'm fairly well settled into secondary school, my best friends initially are Tom and Philip, although as the year moves on I am moved places and become friends with John L. We get on very well and like music like the Prodigy, and I think the Chemical Brothers, aswell as indie stuff like Stone Roses or whatever else our brothers have liked.

I also become friends with Steven and Kevin. Kevin is a really intelligent sort of messer, he constantly makes weird contraptions for firing elastic bands at people, or squeezes bits of tinfoil for hours in the vice in the art room so they're harder when he throws them. Steven is also into music, probably the tallest guy in the class but not really a jock. I remember not liking him for some silly reason the year before, but he would become one of my oldest friends, and the one who got into rave and other important things with me.

I am smart at school, in English especially, the teacher is also our form teacher, he's a nice guy. I remember him trying to inform us about drugs, at the time I remember thinking hash must be commonplace but everything else was for social dropouts. It was fairly iffy information.

I hate science and am crap at it, but the teacher respects me a bit after I ask a question about whether there was a heat equivalent of Kelvin, he is a bit like Fr Jack from Father Ted and he says "you might be crap at science but a question like that shows your ability to question things is no joke". He gives me a great report at the parent teacher meeting even though I get Ds all the time.

I take part in a play, "Treasure Island" and I am Dr Livesey. Everyone says I do really well and it's really good fun, there are no girls in it though which disappoints everyone. My parents are extremely proud. I refuse to do any lines afterwards at any stage for some reason.

God so much is coming back to me, I guess it's only 7 years ago. My dad has his 50th birthday, a big party in the house. I come back in from the play and his friend Dermott, who is kind of a hard boiled egg, sees makeup on my face and says "you'd better sort that out Brendan", joking I guess. There is alot of cigar smoke.

My brother has moved to London for about a year at this stage, I miss having him around. He always has new cds and things for me. My other brother I row with more, he is 3 years ahead of me in school. My sister I don't see all that often, but we get along ok.

My friends outside school are Paul, Dave, John, Alan, and Rowan. At this time we don't get along very well, my parents are strict enough and I'm not always allowed out to discos and things. This drives me mad and alienates me a bit from the local friends. There's some mild bullying, very mild really cos I stop going out to the park etc. I think at the time I'll stop hanging around locally and we'll stop being friends, but it transpires eventually it was just kind of adolescence. Paul, the one who seemed to pick on me a bit more then becomes one of my best friends, we all get along again circa 15.

I guess it was a matter if accepting each others differences and things.

Life was pretty good I guess. It got alot better as I got older.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 6 February 2004 12:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Today my 14-year-old self would be two weeks shy of 15.

I've got a Sassoon bob and I dress like an old lady: Katharine Hepburn. I'm getting a David Bowie fetish because of finding the LP for Brecht's Baal, and transferring crushes from Peter O'Toole who had been in same. My tastes are very camp: I like Queen, Abba, Human League, Adam Ant, Blondie, Soft Cell. Somehow I have the Eurythmics album that came out before Sweet Dreams, and I'm not mad keen on Grace Jones. Prince is not yet a factor in my age group, but Michael Jackson is still milking fucking Thriller. I'm starting to pick up black clothes here and there but the market isn't really there for that yet.

I write really strange books, one after the other, and have a reputation as a prodigy although reading them now merely conveys how much I was watching black and white battle-of-the-sexes comedies as a substitute for a social life.

After being pilloried all through junior high, I've managed to leave that behind early in 9th grade. My friends come from the ranks of gifted kids, theatre junkies, tamed art department stoners and crucially, the punk rock girls one and two years older than me who befriended me at a theatre-kid's wrap party and by coincidence cannot abide most of the girls who used to hate on me, on intellectual grounds. We go to Rocky Horror and vintage clothes stores. I'm sneaking downtown without my mother knowing, and it's great.

I get straight As and the drama/literature/media teacher calls me Dorothy Parker. I start to read her and understand what he might be on about. People who hassled me got a right mouthful. I'd spent all of 8th grade playing dumb to escape attention, but this year counted towards college and getting the fuck out of here, so I snapped out of that pretty quickly.

Traces of the bullying remain, but the culprits are boys (it helps that half of the girl bullies have become pregnant and left school, but I always knew that would happen). It stops when one of the theatre proto-goths reveals that Squeaky Fromme is her cousin, so we scribble 'Helter Skelter! Squeaky says DIE!' on one boy's locker in bright red lipstick. He changes lockers and never says a word to any of us ever again.

I'm still friendly with my best friend from elementary school, but she's a smoking-section rebel and her friends are the fast girls our age from Edina. They invite me to go to Perkins and smoke with them and try to get me off with these doofy, nothing, peach-fuzz boys, but I don't take to it. I've got the flattest chest of anyone I know and I can't bear talking about tits all day with the girls en masse. So instead Sandi and I hang out intermittently and listen to Donna Summer and AC/DC, or just sit reading smutty books all afternoon. We both start with the whole youth employment thing, me at the soda fountain and her at a dry-cleaners.

My parents finally divorced at the beginning of this year. Six months later, my dad remarried - me and my sister were not invited to the wedding. Money has gotten very tight this year, all of a sudden: my mum is ill with a reccurring back problem and is perennially one paycheque short of a sort-out. The mortgage company have been dicking her around, returning cheques to her rather than crediting her account. We think the bank is trying to serve foreclosure so we do not answer the door.

I escape to my friend Nellie's house, where her old English dad the mad scientist presides over a house of cats and books and conversations with big words. We drink tea and eat cake at four sharp every day after school. I think Nellie knows what's going on at home and has sympathy, even though despite appearances her family is probably the richest in the area (her dad won millions in a lawsuit but isn't allowed to say how many, but the original award is in the Guinness Book of World Records). She's in the grade below and has just moved here from a ramshackle part of south Minneapolis, and is mad about Deborah Harry. Her dad gives running commentary on Brideshead Revisited because he was at Cambridge between the wars. We just sit there like five-year-olds at story hour.

It beats staying home and fighting with my mom and sister.

suzy (suzy), Friday, 6 February 2004 13:26 (twenty-two years ago)

my father died when i was 14 a few days after christmas which is the only thing i really remember about the year. i think the whole thing was lived rather robotically. out of desperation i befriended this indie rock type girl who was rather messed up; the relationship went much farther than it should have; i had constant headaches; i tried pot for the first time & was caught by my substance abuse counselor mother; i started high school.

14-15 as far as i recall was a pretty shitty time to be alive.

j c (j c), Friday, 6 February 2004 13:35 (twenty-two years ago)

12-18 is way too painful to write about in any kind of detail on a public messageboard.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 6 February 2004 13:37 (twenty-two years ago)

They filmed the video for "The Reflex" video that night and holy trinity was I excited about that

this was the first video I ever saw on mtv!

teeny (teeny), Friday, 6 February 2004 13:55 (twenty-two years ago)

1988. Freshman at Catholic School. 265lbs with a mullet and bitch tits. Love hip-hop and r&b. Year before my father was promoted to president of the bank he worked for, so the family is quite a bit well off. im a spoiled rich fat guy. but im funny and i do well in school until i discover that its much more fun to cause trouble than do school work. i play football and start at the guard position. its pretty easy when your my size and 14. desperately want a girlfriend but no girls want to date a fat kid with bigger boobs than them. Meet some kids who introduce me to R.E.M and the Smiths. Changes my life. Go to my first party, puke up Southern Comfort after eating a Big Mac. Fat kids love Big Macs.

Chris V (Chris V), Friday, 6 February 2004 14:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Once I hit 16-17 my life goes drastically downhill.

Chris V (Chris V), Friday, 6 February 2004 14:02 (twenty-two years ago)

this is great stuff you magnum opus posse.

mullygrubber (gaz), Friday, 6 February 2004 14:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Not a great year. It's 1992/3 and I've just started a new school after my old one had to close. It's GCSE year and I don't cope with the change very well. Am living in Brighton but later in the year we move to a nearby town where none of my friends live. At the beginning of the school year my friend Charlotte dies; she's been ill with a form of leukaemia for a while and all the treatments have failed. At the new school, her name is read out on the registers because they don't know yet.

Nearly all my friends from my old school have come to this one with me, but most of them will not stay my friends. I become shy even though I wasn't before, and am not popular. I do make a few new friends, mainly Clare J. My best friends, Georgie and Simon, leave the school after a few weeks and are tutored at home for the rest of the year. I miss them but vow I will not leave however hard it is. Georgie's mum tells me I am 'weak-willed' and I never really forgive her. I am taking GCSE options in French, History, Drama and Classics. I like all these subjects and do very well, but hate my French teacher and her blue eyeshadow. Drama can be bad because Clare A is in my group and she is a vicious, nasty bully.

I am jealous of a group who are involved in drama and the debating society - I think they are my natural friends but I seem to have left it too late to get in the gang. I have crushes on three boys, so does my friend Clare. We talk about them endlessly and have complex codes referring to almost everyone in our year. I am not happy. It's been a year since my parents divorced; my dad has moved away and I don't enjoy my weekends there at all. There's nothing to do and I don't know anyone. Dad isn't happy either. Mum's boyfriend moves in with us; I like him ok and want a quiet life but my sister is a different matter.

Musically, I like REM, The Levellers and Queen. This doesn't help me make friends either.

Archel (Archel), Friday, 6 February 2004 14:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Rob Bolton, I bow down to you. Hey wait a minute -- were you by any chance one of those two teenaged boys they show in the video dancing in the stands? Because I've been dying to know who those people are.

*ahem* So, 14-year-old me. That would be the very end of 1993 - the very end of 1994. Ok. The first half of it was consumed by me trying my very hardest to make it through what I had come to recognize as a major social nightmare, i.e. grade school. I have been back with many of the same individuals I went to school with as a very young child for a total of four years, and I've finally come to recognize that they, as well as every other person I've gone to school with, have either fooled me into thinking they like me or have managed to make me forget all the blatant signs they were sending that they didn't want to have anything to do with me. (Well, all but one person, but that one person is about 1,000 miles away and probably doesn't remember me.) School is still academically a success, though, to my consternation.

Then came high school. Nerve-wracking to the core. I had to choose which high school I wanted to go to, take the high school placement exam, and basically swear my allegiance to one high school shortly before my 14th birthday. I decided on a high school with a more diverse enrollment than any of the other ones I'd toured, bypassing the high school my grade school principal wanted me to go to (tough titties, Sister). On the first day of high school, I instantly feel as though I made the wrong decision. So many groups of individuals already formed, so many different types of people than the ones I'd been accustomed to dealing with, so many ways to be intimidated. I retreat into myself. I don't want to make myself look like a fool. This instantly marks me as a target for the girls who already have boyfriends in gangs, or for the girls who are in gangs, but also enables me to find my niche as a "quiet girl" and actually make friends with other "quiet girls". (A couple of years later on, I will find myself fitting into a number of slots -- a "smart girl"/"joiner"/"uncategorizable".) A year later, I will almost withdraw from the high school because of the troubles I was receiving from some rather cruel people. Once again, I find myself succeeding academically, though, and thankfully I have been predirected toward the honors track, so most of my classmates are fellow "smart girls" whom I can relate with at least on that level.

Duran Duran has already long since entered the fray, and I rely upon their music as a major source of inspiration, counseling, and oh yes, entertainment. I am ecstatic that they've become popular (again) and that I can see their videos on MTV. I also listen to Ultravox, Japan, Tears For Fears, David Bowie, Human League, ABC, Depeche Mode, The Cure, Corey Hart, The Police, Talk Talk, a-ha, Bananarama, Madness, The Go-Go's, Talking Heads, Roxy Music, and a number of other musical artists I will find myself continuing to listen to ten years from then. I am wild about the '80s and find myself highly disappointed that "Classic MTV" slowly fades off the TV radar. VH1 is in the midst of its gigantic channel makeover, though, so I can at least watch that a bit more than I used to. Music videos are my biggest source of entertainment and when I'm not at school or in a club meeting or doing homework or at the nursing home or taking showers or sleeping, I'm watching music videos.

Music videos take me away to a world unlike the one I'm living in. Dad is no longer seen as this invincible figure -- not when it's been three years since his cancer diagnosis and 1 1/2 years since he went into remission. He was doing fairly poorly then -- almost died. But then my grandfather passed on instead and I mourned that. My grandmother's Alzheimer's surfaced shortly after my grandfather's passing and we end up having to take care of her. I suspect that part of the motivation behind my wanting to start working at a nursing home is because I sensed in the back of my mind that that's where we'd end up having to put her, as a last resort. By the end of my 14th year, this suspicion becomes reality.

Oh God, there are so many more things I could say about 14-year-old me. I could say of the times I nearly fainted because I was bleeding too much (TMI territory, I'm aware), or of the summer trip we took back to the Bay Area and of fond rememberances, or of my mom's compulsion for order order order, or of the first time I seriously considered taking my own life, or of insecurities, uncomfortable times, or other things, but I don't have the time to right now. Hm. Will have to complete this in my journal.

Mellow Dee (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 6 February 2004 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)

The year is 2000. I am 14. YOU MUST LIKE THE DAVE MATTHEWS BAND!!!!!!!!

Jole, Friday, 6 February 2004 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I turn 14 on 24th May 1983. On that particular day, Debbie C finds out that I have a crush on her, my first ever, and the rest of the year - at least from hereon in until she leaves Penarth on 25th January 1984 - is spent furtively looking over to her in class. Disaster strikes at some midpoint in November when she perms her hair but frankly it doesn't matter that much, and I tend to think of her with permed hair anyway. She was my first love and I still secretly have a little place in my heart for her, not that I've seen her for twenty years now.

I had also just discovered the joy of buying records in April '83, so most of my free time at weekends was spent journeying to Cardiff with my friends picking up whatever records I was into at the time. It was all OMD, Kraftwerk, Freur, stuff like that to begin with, then I discovered Peel in the autumn and started buying Factory stuff, then Eno albums too. Discovering Kellys Records in Cardiff market was a good step forward too.

Girls figures highly in my life, not only Debbie but also a few others, my fickle self picked Rachel T to have another crush on about two weeks after Debbie's disappearance, and that one lasted for about two years. Obviously still in school, doing quite well at pretty much everything at the time - hadn't discovered my depressing nature yet which would foul my education for most of my late teens and early 20s. In early '83 an English teacher asked us all to start a diary, mine didn't stop until 1996, and reading it for '83 to '84 is a laugh, as I just come across as an immature fool who is obsesses with girls and music and hanging out with his mates. And really, that sums up me at 14.

Rob M (Rob M), Friday, 6 February 2004 15:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Looking at it, that's just not good enough. So here's more.

OK, I'm 14, I'm thin as a rake, got thick glasses and well dodgy hair. Girls don't look once at me, let alone twice. Doesn't stop me looking at them. School work may be fine, but I'm being bullied mercilessly by some other kids, which amazingly stops once I punch one of them during a physics lesson in Jan '84. Admittedly I get caught and thrown out of the class, but it was worth it. Autumn and winter '83 seem to be very dark days, Debbie perming her hair, bullying all the time, constant rain, and friends talking about this new band called the Smiths. Listening to Radio Luxembourg almost constantly, or CBC (local radio), dedicating songs to girls I'm in love with and seeing if anyone else notices the next day. Trying to avoid my brother who's playing tuneless guitar to Mick Ronson albums. I get my first instrument - Casio MT45 - for Xmas '83, and start writing little tunes on it quite happily. It's cheesy as hell, but I don't care, it's an instrument and I can write stuff on it. Actual songs won't come until summer '84 though.

Summer '83 was good though. A school exchange trip to Germany was a good laugh, eating lots of chocolate and playing Atari games. Lots of sunshine, lots of cool records, one of the best summers, shame it ended so badly with autumn. So that was basically me at 14, bullied, obsessed, and just discovering my brother's stash of porn under his bed.

Rob M (Rob M), Friday, 6 February 2004 15:54 (twenty-two years ago)

were you by any chance one of those two teenaged boys they show in the video dancing in the stands

I wish. I watched that video a thousand times trying to spot myself to no avail. I was in the "greys" at Maple Leaf Gardens and the seats were shitty. The thing I remember most about the show was the video screen. The big game everyone played that night was to scream wildly whenever their "favourite" member was on the screen. Simon got most of the screams, but the posse I was with were screamin' for Nick Rhodes all the way.

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Friday, 6 February 2004 15:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Rob Bolton, I bow down to you

Awww, shucks... I'm not worthy! Really. No joke. Did you miss the bit where I mentioned Def Leppard?

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Friday, 6 February 2004 16:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Duran Duran sidenote: Fast-forward to 2001. I do a video interview with Nick and Simon for my job. Nick is an incredibly nice chap. I show him my concert stub from that 1984 show (yes, I still have it), and he signs it for me. Ahhhh, nothing like that feeling of completeness.

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Friday, 6 February 2004 16:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Stagger into the house slurring words and breaking stuff. Dad gets up to say "If you're going to puke go out and do it in the yard." I try to but miss and it gets all over my Metallica 'Metal Up Your Ass' t-shirt. Can't sleep for bedspins so I put 'Master of Reality' on headphones, crank real loud, but forget to turn the external speakers off, causing even more domestic unrest. Repeat daily for next three years, during which sick-stained Metallica top is repeatedly worn without washing.

dave q, Friday, 6 February 2004 16:10 (twenty-two years ago)

14 = all of 9th grade since I have a summer birthday. I'm finally starting to find my way in a cultural sense. I'm still pretty socially retarded, insufferably know-it-all, horribly unpopular, etc. Ninth grade is freshman year in a new building, but the high school is right next to the junior high so it's not really a big change. Lockers are cool. It's a small school. It's 1989-1990.

I'm a drama geek, and I land the role of Helen Keller in the winter production of The Miracle Worker. This involves grunting and moaning while crawling around with kneepads on under bloomers. I have no idea how ridiculous I look. I split my head open during a dress rehearsal in front of the junior high kids during a fight scene and blood drips into my eyes. Pretty cool. At the end of the year, I get the best actress award and all of the senior girls are mad at me.

I have an enormous crush on a burnout named Chris, and steal enrollment lists from a teacher to figure out which classes I share with him. Maybe this part was when I was 15 actually. We go on a drama field trip and I innocently fall asleep on his shoulder on the way back. We go out for a week. He's a great kisser. I see my first cocaine in the back of his friend's Trans Am.

I join every academic club there is so as to take advantage of the field trips and try to entertain myself. This pays off big time the summer after 9th grade, when I go to the International Thespian Society's Conference in Ball State, Indiana. I go from being the black-clad drama freak to being totally outclassed by the representations of the breed at this week-long conference.

I see ACTUAL BOYS IN REAL LIFE WHO WEAR EYELINER. I dance the Time Warp for the first time and become obsessed with Rocky Horror and crossdressing. I sing "I Melt With You" along with a guitar player on a grassy quad. I hijack a sound system with a group and we set up our own dance floor in an empty room and play the Lighning Seeds and KMFDM and Depeche Mode until someone figures us out. I feel like someone understands me for the first time.

For my 15th birthday, my mom takes me and my friends to the nearest movie theatre (2 hrs drive) to sneak into Pump Up The Volume and the rest of my life is pretty much set.

teeny (teeny), Friday, 6 February 2004 16:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I posted to an internet board among a crew of twenty- thirty- and forty- somethings who work in offices and the lower rungs of the print media. Hella time!

Mean Old Man (Enrique), Friday, 6 February 2004 16:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Let me paint you a picture - It's 1992, the year of the Maastricht Treaty and the European Union, not that I could give a fuck, because I'm 14 and politics bore me.

We find ourselves in a fairly affluent middle-class North London suburb. I am an incredibly surly and kind of overweight boy, enjoying the freedom of my newly-longish hair, though I haven't yet got the idea that you're meant to wear it kinda greasy (to be REALLY cool), so I continuously get remarks from girls to the effect that my hair has so much body and questions over which conditioner I use. Which is cool, because girls are good.

I am the very definition of sarcastic. In fact, I do not think I will speak a word in sincerity for a good 3/4 years. I now attend a prestigious and clubby private boys school in Hampstead. The vast majority of my classmates are from well-off families and will grow up to be politicians, lawyers, brokers, and accountants.

Although I was top of every class in my former school, I am struggling academically here. Not only do I feel out of my depth, but I don't really care. I have a big group of friends now, friends who hate the school as much as I do, and most crucially, have access to drugs and women, chiefly the young women that attend our sister school only a stone's throw further down the Finchley Road. It seems as though there is a party every weekend. We drink cider and red wine, get stoned, and listen to many of the American grunge/art-rock/lo-fi favorites of the day, - Nirvana, Mudhoney, Sonic Youth, Pavement, Dinosaur Jr, Sebadoh, as well as a few British acts like The Prodigy (for dancin') and The Orb (for smokin').

Sadly, I do not have a great deal of success with the girls of S**** H*******, and habitually lust after M*****A K*******S, who I will eventually have a very brief encounter with, albeit while she is "seeing" one of my best friends. To compensate for my romantic and academic failures, I begin self-medicating with the zeal of a new convert. I try acid and love it, and many of my friends are moving on to harder drugs like speed and on occasion, cocaine.

My parents begin to express concern that they have no idea where I am at any given time (and with whom). As the most sarcastic teenager on earth, I have no interest in telling them the truth, and feel happy to feed them nonsense replies along the lines of "I'm joining the circus". They would prefer me to perhaps join a Jewish society at school or in my spare time, perhaps meet a girl from a nice family. They are rather hurt that the large sums that they are spending on my education appear to be in vain.

Asides from partying like a fool, I start to develop an interest in film and travel. Reservoir Dogs has just been released, Wild At Heart was blowing me away, and I begin to watch the work of US indie directors like Gus Van Sant, Jim Jarmusch, and Hal Hartley, whose films I do not always understand but seem to speak to me through their tone and visual language. My family does a great deal of travelling around the United States, and I particularly enjoy our visits to San Francisco, a city I adore and hope to live in one day in the future. On one trip, my friend James and his family are staying down in Fisherman's Wharf. We meet up and head over to the Haight to buy weed and acid. The acid doesn't work, but we walk around the city well into the evening discussing our plans for the future. James wants to be an artist and start a huge art collective for painters, filmmaker, and sculptors. He is very ambitious and excitable. In four years, he will commit suicide by jumping off of a bridge.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 6 February 2004 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I moved across the country in 1985 back to Coronado in San Diego Bay, I was well into Tolkien and Monty Python and I really liked Tears for Fears. My hair was shorter than it is now and I started wearing contacts. Beyond that, ya got me. School was school and no traumas, or none that I can remember.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 February 2004 18:32 (twenty-two years ago)

14-year-old me isn't that different to 18-year-old me. not sure what to make of that.

fcussen (Burger), Friday, 6 February 2004 18:57 (twenty-two years ago)

See the "I fucking hate religion thread".

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 6 February 2004 18:58 (twenty-two years ago)

For me it's 1980.
Out: Big aviator-style glasses, Pink Floyd, jr. high, root beer, Saturday bowling league, comics, wide-leg jeans, velour shirts, 7th grade girls, being the smartest person in the room
In: Contact lenses, The Clash and the B-52's and 3D, high school, Mountain Dew, hanging out over at friends' houses and staying up all night, Mike's dad's porn stash, Levis 501s, freshman-sports-team-related shirts, 10th grade women (for some reason I am suddenly attractive to older females), seeking out smarter people to hang out with

Excited and freaked out ALL THE TIME, surprised how suddenly I'm not a geek who plays sports but rather a freshman athlete (quarterback, center, letter-winner in track) who happens to read Dos Passos and Gormenghast on team bus trips, get beat up but not by the guys who've been trying to beat me up all summer. Trying not to notice that my father is drinking all the time and picking fights with my mother. Befriending new soph girl from Cali in biology class with bad kidney who bursts into tears when John Lennon is shot, she disappears for a month or two, reappears, she tells me about her abortion, suddenly my whole world view has changed, never to return.

Begs2Differ, Friday, 6 February 2004 18:59 (twenty-two years ago)

1992, 14-year-old nickalicious - listening to Faith No More and Nirvana a lot, masturbating furiously, doing shots of lemon juice & tang for kicks, straight-edge and annoyingly so, just got my first electric guitar, don't have many friends, had my first date & first kiss, when she stuck her tongue in my mouth I had no idea what was going on and freaked out, I grew like 2 inches this year. Fin.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 6 February 2004 19:12 (twenty-two years ago)

1987, I'm going to Notre Dame High School in Sherman Oaks, CA. I'm a good kid, and when I am bad (drinking at a friends house etc), I never let my parents know about it. I'm chubby and wear alot of black, but insist that I'm "not goth", but into "noise-pop". Um, listening to alot of Jesus and Mary Chain, Pixies and New Order, just picked up a 12" by this new group called My Bloody Valentine - you see I'm fighting the good fight at school, trying to get the cool kids to dump Steve Miller and Led Zeppelin. You can fill in the rest by imagining any teen movie filmed in the San Fernando Valley (also Smashing Pumpkins' "1979" video). Oh, I've had a crush on two girls, Susan and Amanda, both since the 7th grade. I'll save those stories for future threads.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 6 February 2004 19:29 (twenty-two years ago)

...because they've now merged into one being called Samanda.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 February 2004 19:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Mid 1980s. I am halfway through 8th grade, living in a town full of rednecks in southern Michigan. I am not cool, though I am a smart kid. This doesn't make too much difference, many teachers give me poor grades as my father is involved in school administration and they don't like him. While I am kind of a geek, at least I'm not the geekiest of the school. I do have friends and a fair amount of friendly acquaintances. I like girls, but not the girls that like me; those ones I don't notice because I am clueless as hell. Finally, at the end of the school year, I realize that my friend Becky had a major unrequited crush on me because she now refuses to speak with me and her friends give me withering looks.

I like heavy metal and so do my friends. We like Metallica, Judas Priest (though if we knew about Halford we probably wouldn't have), Quiet Riot, Ratt, Def Leppard and the rest. We watch headbanger's ball all of the time. My older brother and I try to be in a band that plays Motley Crue songs, he plays guitar and I play drums. In the summer, we ride bikes around our suburban neighborhood. I break my arm skateboarding in an empty pool because I suck at it, but so does everyone else.

My dad has begun to go a little crazy. He comes home drunk from time to time, but we like it as he doesn't hit anyone then. When he gets really angry, he'll throw everyone around the house, but my older brother gets it the worst. My mom tries to get help but no-one wants to get involved as my dad is respected in the community and a church elder. The pastor tells her to ask God for help. I learn that people who go to church are hypocritical fucking scumbags. My brother runs away to Florida after some particularly savage beatings. My mom takes me and my younger brother one day in the summer and we drive down there too, and stay with my uncle and aunt for a while. Finally we all come back as my dad has agreed to certain conditions.

Thank god we are moving out of this shitty town. We move close to Detroit, and it is a new school. I am much happier here. I start skateboarding a lot, and have a new group of friends from my neighborhood. More girls like me here. I start to get over my intense shyness, and I like heavier music now like Megadeath and Slayer. I also like Guns and Roses. Here, I am one of the top students and I don't even have to do anything! It's great. I get drunk with my friends and we try to skate home falling down and laughing. Life is getting better.

webcrack (music=crack), Friday, 6 February 2004 19:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Okay, it's thirty years ago. I started at a new school a few months back, transferring from the local comprehensive to a fairly pricey public school in Bristol. I am the most common kid there, and even one of the teachers takes the piss out of my local accent. This doesn't bother me. I'm a big music fan, moving from my glam favourites like T. Rex and Slade into what seems like more serious music, i.e. rock - the Stones, Who, Faces. I'm a big football fan, and go to see Bristol Rovers pretty often - I think it would have been around now that we got a 1-1 league draw with Man Utd, something impossibly remote now that we are about 80 places apart in the league. I'm reading SF mostly, some stuff I still like (Theodore Sturgeon for instance), some I couldn't read now. I've given up comics as a thing of childhood - it's a year or two later than schoolfriend Dave (then we were at Cambridge together, then started a magazine, and are still friends) pressed some Gerber Howard The Ducks on me to reconvert me.

The transfer was because I had been stagnating for years academically - this goes back to being the youngest kid in the junior school, but still top of the class by a stretch, so they bumped me ahead, then wouldn't let me take the 11-plus exam at 9, so held me backa again. So in early '73 I'm completely uninterested and somewhere in the middle of the top stream (like 10 kids) at the local comp, and my parents decide to send me to a better school. I make an effort in my last term at the comp and come top in five subjects, and more or less carry that into the new school, where standards are much higher and I have to learn Latin. I get on okay with others there, but feel out of place in many ways among all these rich kids. It must have been around this time that, a puny sick kid (very badly asthmatic, with very inadequate treatment at this time, laid up in the sick bay pretty regularly), I get sick of being pushed around by an arsehole bully a year older, four inches taller and a couple of stone heavier, and fight back, and somehow get the best of it. I play a lot of football and am fairly good, despite the asthma, but the main school sports are rugby, hockey and cricket, none of which I have played before, and I'm one of the worst at all of them. I'm getting keen on table tennis, but I'm not very good at it yet.

I don't think I had had what you could reasonably call a girlfriend at this time, and had only kissed a few girls. I think I felt pretty lonely. I had become keen on masturbation (how many 14 year old boys weren't?).

Actually, other than the better treatment of my asthma and the muscle that has come from somewhere, not that much has changed. I found a diary of mine a few years back that I think covered early 1974, and it was all books and music and football.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 6 February 2004 19:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I had become keen on masturbation (how many 14 year old boys weren't?
i wasn't. took me another couple o' years.
i tended to shy away from anything considered 'fun" at that age.
my best friend died when i was 14. best, only, longest friend.
14 was even worse than 12.
i hit rock bottom and flopped around like a dying fish for over a year.

dyson (dyson), Friday, 6 February 2004 20:00 (twenty-two years ago)

i went to an all boys school, i was sexually abused by a teacher who tried to play my father--who was not in my life. i was beat up daily by students in my grade, i had jack off parties with boys my age and a little older, in the woods on canoe trips and hikes, i found allan ginsberg in the school library, and devoured him, i tried to kill myself, and spent two weeks in the infirmary, where an older named morgan fed me, bathed me, and took care of me, later he would make sure i was safe.

anthony, Friday, 6 February 2004 20:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I was one of three kids who wore a Sonic Youth Dirty t-shirt on the first day of school, despite none of us ever having heard a Sonic Youth album.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 6 February 2004 20:23 (twenty-two years ago)

It's 1987. I am at a boarding school and hate it. In fact I hate everyone. I'm freakishly good at maths and am just about to get an A in O'grade a year early. My maths teacher thinks I am great. Everyone else thinks I am a geek. I am starting to study for Higher French two years early to "stretch myself". This doesn't help with the geekery problem. I don't have any friends.

I am three years into a hopeless crush on a guy in my year which will last until I am seventeen without ever being requited. He hates me and is beaten up just because I fancy him. This is not really fair, but it's what 14 year olds do. I cry a lot, write a diary which is a lot of whiney self-indulgent bollocks, and listen to the Jesus and Mary Chain and lots of goth shit. I am told that a guy two years below me fancies me. I don't believe it, but am horrible to him whenever possible as I keep thinking this will make me a bit cooler. I feel shit when he dies of meningitis.

I can't remember much else about being 14.

ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 6 February 2004 20:57 (twenty-two years ago)

1990. I only have vague memories of 12-16. At 14 I know I liked Poison and Iron Maiden. I think this was the year I had a hellish school trip to Wales, which one of my friends got out of coz he got his mum to say they were going on holiday when they weren't. I had a few unrequited crushes. I played football at lunchtime everyday. That's all really.

jel -- (jel), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I sent an Iron Maiden postcard to my parents from Wales saying "it's horrible here, the food is terrible".

jel -- (jel), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:33 (twenty-two years ago)

You should have drawn some extra stuff on the photo showing Eddie throwing up.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, drawing, though a photo of Eddie would be one for the books.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Man, I shoulda just got the train home, I took a map, and the nearest station was only 6 or 7 miles away across country, I coulda done it. I tried so hard to get out of the trip, the deputy head stopped me in the corridor and asked me why I hadn't got my parents to sign the permission slip, was it because we couldn't afford to pay, I said no way and that I had assumed the trip was optional. I spent that evening trying to get my mum and dad to be suddenly going on holiday like my friend :(

jel -- (jel), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmmm...me at 14?

I like trad. irish music way too much, I'm making spending money reproducing celtic knotwork drawings for the queensland irish association giftshop in the city, very unfulfilling. Uh...I have no friends (no surprises there), my sense of dress is best described as "middle-aged" (no change). I'm still innocent, still trying to please my deranged mother, still going to church, still doing well in school :)

ipsofacto (ipsofacto), Saturday, 7 February 2004 03:39 (twenty-two years ago)

[[chanting]]

hormones, hormones, hor-MONES!
hormones, hormones, hor-MONES!
hormones, hormones, hor-MONES!
hormones, hormones, hor-MONES!

[[repeeat ad nauseam]]

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Saturday, 7 February 2004 03:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Let's see.....that would be 1981. I am a freshman in high school. Puberty is taking its sweet goddamn time and I have no ability nor affinity for sports and even for less for the people who zealously espouse them. I go to a small Jesuit high school in Manhattan (only 200 kids in the whole school) and am in a co-ed environment for the first time (grade school was all boys). I am desperately infatuated with a senior girl named Christina Fiore who my sister and I flukishly met a summer earlier. My primary concern is probably comic books, but I'm getting more and more into music. I've pretty much abandoned my once-beloved Kiss and am realizing there are bands worth listening to other than Pink Floyd, notably bands like the Ramones, the Police, Devo, the Sex Pistols, the Clash, Adam & the Ants and...worryingly...lots of dumb heavy metal. I've started to glean that "Dungeons & Dragons" is basically a waste of time. It was fun for a while, but it's getting out of hand. Despite being lovestruck over the afore-mentioned La Fiore, I have no ability to communicate with the other sex at all. Because I'm bascially geekdom personified, I am not wildly popular in the new school, but I have made three or four true friends, and still maintain a gaggle of tried'n'true friends from grade school. My folks are hurtling swiftly towards divorce (the second for my mother) and my sister is at constant loggerheads with my step-father. Life is strange, but okay. It will only get stranger.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 7 February 2004 04:35 (twenty-two years ago)

1) if only I had known, I would have been in love with 14-year-old-Madchen, which means I would have (after several false starts and deep breaths) called her up and asked her if she wanted to see a movie. If she had said no I might have killed myself. If she said yes I probably wouldn't have known what to do and just kind of hung up and not called her back to arrange the details.

2) since I didn't--this is grade nine. My hair is parted in the middle like a soccer player. I'm one of the better athletes in my grade, but too geeky for that to count. I've just gotten contact lenses, which is awesome. The space shuttle blows up. I've just started playing basketball; I'm fairly athletic but can't shoot for squat.

Up until now, I have pretty much gotten straight A's--but now I no longer seem to care. I'll get good grades, but I'm not really interested in learning at school. It would be easy to explain this change by blaming puberty, but I think it's more fundamental--somehow, I no longer buy into the system. I don't rebel against it, but I slide through with the minimum necessary and still ultimately end up 3rd in my class.

I am thoroughly pissed and want to fight the people who say "Oh, these are the best times of your life!" And then in the darkness I pray that they're wrong.

mookieproof (mookieproof), Saturday, 7 February 2004 04:38 (twenty-two years ago)

It's the late 80s. I think of suicide constantly. I sit in history class and write and write in my notebook about my life and how I hate it. And how I want to end it. My notebook fills with pages and pages and pages of doodlings and song quotes ("I wear black on the outside cause black is how I feel on the inside"). Instead of taking notes in class, I write and write about how I feel. I feel worthless and alone.

I cut myself that year too. Only once. I think I'm horribly ugly and fat. I was tracing my wrists with one of the kitchen knives, hoping to just nick the veins to see how much they might bleed. Not to kill myself but to plan for it, have an idea of...something. The knives are too dull to break the skin. So I get the butcher knife, grab a bit of my midsection, and just slice. A small, deep incision inspired by self-loathing and a curiosity about whether I can even feel. It bleeds a lot, and takes a long time to heal.

One night I get a call. My friend Emily has found my notebook with all the suicidal writings, she's freaked out and clearly doesn't know how to act, having read what I'd written. She'd found it in the little compartment next to the desk I sat in for history class. She uses the same desk in that room, two class periods after mine. Someone else must have read it, she says. When she gets it back to me the next day, there are little comments here and there, approval of a doodling or a band I've quoted. And there's a message negating some of my self-criticisms--"I'm a sophomore boy who knows you. You're not ugly, far from it. You're smart. You have a lot going for you. It's worth it to live". Something like that.

I wonder who he is. I skip classes and find that there's a sophomore class between my class and Emily's, and sitting in that desk is Matt Means. I have a class with him first period. Some acquaintanceish friends of mine are friends with him. He's always seemed like a good guy, but he's too cool, and a year older than me. I never knew him that well.

Somehow, those comments mean a lot to me. I'm still suicidal and it takes a while and a lot of therapy to work through that. The memory of the writings in my notebook lingers with me for a long time. I never talk very much to Matt. Down the road, I end up going to the same university as him, and I am too shy to ever say hi. There's part of me that wants to thank him. I want to tell him how some comments out of nowhere from a mere acquaintance affected me during such a difficult time. But I don't know how.

*, Sunday, 8 February 2004 05:06 (twenty-two years ago)

All I remember are a pair of headphones and a cassette of De La Soul Is Dead. And a general sense of unease and ostracism.

nate detritus (natedetritus), Sunday, 8 February 2004 05:20 (twenty-two years ago)

i went to high school. i was doing great at maths and had an awesome teacher for it. i don't remember much about my other classes. i'd been drifting a bit, friendswise, for a year or two, but now i'd started hanging out with this girl named mo'unga. she liked the same music as me (JODECI!!!! and some song called "lets get naked") and we'd hang out in the german room and she taught me some smooth dance moves. her friends kinda didn't like me cos i clearly tried too hard. except sandra, but sandra aka crabs never had a bad thing to say about/to anyone. god it was nice to have a good friend though. i had a humungous crush on mo'unga's older brother mahanga. my own older brother still lived at home, he was seventeen and old/tough/stupid enough to beat up me AND my mum. i hated him, obv, and i spent a lot of nights lying in bed imagining ways to kill him or at least hurt him as bad as he hurt me so that he would understand what it was like and never do it again. the logic of a pretty dumb chick, eh.

The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Sunday, 8 February 2004 10:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Who was cool? C'mon, admit it.

I wrote this whole thing trying to remember it all and realized how horrible it all was. Here are the beginning and end parts:

I entered high school the first time before classes, realized I had no one to talk to and/or not the balls to try and so I walked around trying to look busy while having a sinking feeling te next four years were going to blow. This was almost everyday in hs until I stopped going, but thats a whole something else.
-deleted even more embarrassing things part-
I was a prozac zombie by winter after being forcebly sent to a therapist because I was constantly feigning sickness and had bad grades even though I always tested well in all those tests. I remember that summer as the most depressing thing ever (so far), just sitting around watching TV by myself all day and thinking about how much I sucked by torturously replaying embarrassing moments of the past year over and over in my head.

Reflecting on it all now I wish I had discovered Dostoevsky and/or Joy Division or something and excepted myself as a loner/nerd/etc instead of fighting it in vain. I'm always jealous of those people who had a horrible time in high school, but had something to believe in or love or listen to and identify with because I never did.

Someone has to start the 16 year old thread at some point too.

christhamrin (christhamrin), Sunday, 8 February 2004 11:19 (twenty-two years ago)

God, you all have such a great ability to remember. I can hardly remember a thing about being 14.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Sunday, 8 February 2004 11:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Early in my 14th year I was in a hellishly conformist junior high environment; almost every mean thing done to me in school was carried out by girls. At the top socially were rich proto-Heather girls who would look at your new designer jeans and make a scandal by telling everyone they were forged, or try to butter up smart girls into doing their homework; at the bottom there were illiterate feed sows who would threaten destruction after class or at lunch, steal books, hold you under the water during swimming, phone your house with menaces. Anyone I did manage to befriend lasted about as long as it took for them to figure out I was a whipping girl there, or were one way in school and another way outside. I was so miserable and stressed that I actually developed mono.

I finally snapped at one point early in the second semester, just after my 14th birthday. One of the sows challenged me to a fight after French and just as soon as a crowd gathered and the swings began, both of us were dragged away to the Ass Principal's office for the kind of hearing that starts with 'if anyone interrupts it's two weeks detention'. Luckily I was well-spoken and my opponent wasn't - I didn't get detention because I told Ass Principal that they'd been trying to get me to fight all year, I was sick of it, and creating a GREAT BIG SCENE was the only solution when teachers and administration had been ignoring the problem for months (also my mum would back me up; my grades were falling because I wasn't given a moment's peace in my classes and she was sick of the crank calls at all hours). Making sure I spoke first, I trapped my opponent, saying she had been put up to it by other girls, they were just using her and were not her real friends, so it was down to her to say who they were - which made her the snitch, not me. Whatever happened, if you 'narced', you would not have wanted to show up the next day.

So off we go to the counselor's office and inkblots and MMPIs and all the usual shit gets brought out. I'm pretty fortunate that the trend for kids on meds hadn't started yet otherwise this joker surely would have had me on them.

Luckily, by the time I'd finished being 14 things were a lot better (see above).

suzy (suzy), Sunday, 8 February 2004 12:21 (twenty-two years ago)

secondary school
confused
hyperactive
spazz baby
long hair
pain in the butt to parents
daily overdose of coca-cola
hourly fight with girlfriend of the week
discovered: sex; drugs + rock and roll (don't really want to remember the exact order)

Pinche Pendejo (Pinche Pendejo), Sunday, 8 February 2004 12:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Bad would-be wedge hair, shockingly bad skin, 3-4 inches shorter than practically all my contemporaries (and that would include the girls at that age) - no great reason for feeling good about myself aside from my hilariously misplaced sense of intellectual superiority.

At a sprawling Catholic comprehensive on the Wirral; chugged along more than adequately, not really trying, an approach which led to emphatic academic underachievement a little later on when it actually mattered.

Didn't own any pop records, but filled C90 after C90 from the radio - the "Ever So Lonely"-"More Than This"-"I Could Be Happy" sequence from one cassette remains my madeleine.

Early in 4th form, a happy accident of chum-clustering in Thursday afternoon's double geography means latecomer J*n*tt* W**d*ll (New Brighton's answer to Jodie Foster) has no choice but to take the empty seat next to me. I live for periods 6 & 7 on a Thursday for the next three terms. We reconvene in the lockers after Maths and take the bus to the nasty end of town together (her Gran lives in Seacombe). I know her and her snide friends laugh behind my back, but, hey, I make her laugh too. Shame it takes me until 1988 to get over her.

Magically, my acne clears up (and then, at 15, cruelly reappears with a vengeance; by this time JW has fallen in with a crowd of bad-ass grrlz I can't begin to understand - in 5th form geography classes, she's a blonde-fringed vision...twenty feet away), I briefly shed my spoddy nature to become a feared (by other spods) tennis and squash opponent - my all-time sporting triumph happens at 14: thrashing our new, bronzed PE supply teacher 6-2 6-0 in Harrison Park, giggling fifth-form girls gathered on the grassy bank, less impressed by my forehand than by his Fry flick and tanned limbs.

There's quite a socioeconomic spread at St M*ry's and I appear to be at the wrong end of it, though this is never an issue until I'm 16 or so. Then, I'm 'dockscum'. It's an affectionate term.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 8 February 2004 14:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Before becoming my 8th grade humanities class' student council representative (whoot whoot. All the dudes put the anarchy sign in the A of "Anthony" when writing my name down on the ballot) I noted that I probably wouldn't join any of the party committees cuz I didn't have a clue about that stuff. A girl asked me what kind of music I'd pick for a dance party and I said "I dunno...Neil Young?" She was horrified.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 8 February 2004 17:28 (twenty-two years ago)

I also found a friend or two to share my fascination with the Velvet Underground and Doom Patrol comics, which was great. I actually had a note that I carried around with me to the various comic stores saying that my mom would let me buy comics "suggested for mature readers." Though I think I stopped having to show it by 8th grade. I still carried it just in case, though.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 8 February 2004 17:51 (twenty-two years ago)

My eighth-grade humanities teacher Mr. Courtney actually knew about Grant Morrison (then Doom Patrol writer, not yet superhero revival king) and let me borrow his copy of the Animal Man and Arkham Asylum TPBs. The latter was sort of ironic for me, since when a college student recess monitor GAVE me Arkham Asylum in 5th grade (in hindsight I can't tell if he was genuinely creepy or just didn't realize how young I was), the images in it were so disturbing that I showed it my mom and the guy got in trouble and ending up quitting. I really enjoyed it at 14 though.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 8 February 2004 17:57 (twenty-two years ago)

My 14th year is something too depressing for me to want to remember.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 9 February 2004 04:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Every time I start trying to write this I get too sad to bother continuing.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Monday, 9 February 2004 04:58 (twenty-two years ago)

:-(

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 February 2004 05:28 (twenty-two years ago)

two months pass...
haha, I'll bite on this thread, its full of entertaining and pathetic stories, though I'm afraid mine is neither all too pathetic nor entertaining. It's really also not all too long ago for me, but I've changed drastically since then.

I'm 14 years old, in the 8th grade, and I have decided that the liberty spikes are no longer worth it. They are too much of a pain in the ass to gel up in the morning, and I've decided they look kind of stupid anyway. At this point in my life, I listen to practically nothing but NOFX, Lagwagon, Rancid, and my one friend's band. I am totally addicted to videogames, recently got a computer and now am totally addicted to the internet. I play Shenmue and Age of Empires every day.

My circle of friends are mostly fellow gamer geeks, but most of them I will never talk to again after 8th grade ends and high school begins (where I will instead follow some other close friends of mine into a considerably larger and considerably less geeky group). I have several dire crushes, I approach not one of them. Every day, I go home and pass out from exhaustion, sleeping until dinner time.

Serya (Z_Ayres), Friday, 16 April 2004 23:42 (twenty-one years ago)


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