Have you done the Enneagram test? What are you?

I don't know about it though, it said I'm a 1. eh.

The life of the style Five centers on their thinking. Healthy Fives are both highly intellectual and involved in activity. They can be, if not geniuses, then extraordinarily accomplished. As the most intellectual of the nine types, they are often superb teachers and/or researches. Many healthy Fives are fine writers because of their acute observational skills and a developed idealism. They are highly objective and able to see all sides of a question and understand them.

When Fives become less healthy, they tend to withdraw. Instead of dealing with their sensitivity by being emotionally detached from results, they split off from reality, living in worlds of their own creating and not answering the demands of active living. Their natural independence as a thinker degenerates into arrogance. They can become quite arrogant or eccentric. In the movies, Fives are the "mad professors."

Fives you may know: Bill Gates, Scrooge, Buddha, T. S. Eliot, John Paul Sartre, Rene Descartes, Timothy McVeigh, Joe DiMaggio, Albert Einstein, H. R. Haldeman, Ted Kaczynski, Jacqueline Onassis and Vladimir Lenin.

"living in worlds of their own creating and not answering the demands of active living"...This is the most true part of the analysis in my case.

Threes have their eyes on the goal. These are people who love success and inwardly fear failure. They do whatever it takes to succeed.

Healthy Threes are hard working, ambitious, highly successful, charismatic, fast learners, efficient, productive and they make the business world go round. They will do whatever they are asked, their work is exemplary, often extraordinary and they are usually found on the fast track and in high places. They set and meet goals with a flourish and they energize any group or staff.

If they become unhealthy they slip from being a success to appearing to be successful. This may entail some cutting of corners, viewing failures merely as learning experiences, telling the story with a few adjustments. Threes may take credit for others' work, hog the spotlight and over identify with their roles. They may also see themselves as an efficient machine and take little time for emotional and spiritual realities.

Threes you may know: Tom Cruise, Arnold Swarzenegger, Demi Moore, Elizabeth Dole, Cindy Crawford, Johnnie Cochran, O. J.Simpson, The CEO's of half the corporations in America, Oliver North, Sharon Stone, Oprah Winfrey, Tiger Woods.

OJ SIMPSON????

No really.

I believe the enneagram too much, its official.

Fives you may know: Bill Gates, Scrooge, Buddha, T. S. Eliot, John Paul Sartre, Rene Descartes, Timothy McVeigh, Joe DiMaggio, Albert Einstein, H. R. Haldeman, Ted Kaczynski, Jacqueline Onassis and Vladimir Lenin.

Eeeh, I don't know about that.

I'm a VAMPIRE! Bleah, bleah! Either that or Dennis Rodman.

MICHAEL JACKSON, too! That explains a lot (I think.)

I don't hold much faith in any of these kinds of poop, IQ tests either.

Nines' anger differs dramatically from the anger of an Eight. They turn their anger inward and tamp it down. Nines delete their own agenda to be a peacemaker. When they are healthy, they are serene, peaceful, gently assertive, great group leaders and solid friends. Nines have no hard edges and are often extremely popular - and fun to tease because they are so easy-going. They assert themselves without ruffling anyone's feathers and are often able to get everyone to work together.

But if they become unhealthy, their inner self goes to sleep. They put themselves to sleep with food, sex, drugs or television. They can easily become couch potatoes. They develop an inner grief at an unlived life because they merge with someone else's agenda and don't assert themselves.

Nines you may know: Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, Cal Ripkin, Gloria Steinem, Dan Quayle, Loni Anderson, Yogi Berra, Sandra Bullock, Kevin Costner, the Dalai Lama.

Who's Cal Ripkin?

Oh, yay, I just redid it and it told me I was a nine and that nines were very different from eights. A healthy eight I am not (assertive natural leadership again...) but an unhealthy eight sounds about right:

But if they become unhealthy, their inner self goes to sleep. They put themselves to sleep with food, sex, drugs or television. They can easily become couch potatoes. They develop an inner grief at an unlived life because they merge with someone else's agenda and don't assert themselves.

That's me, I guess. But even if I drag myself out of this laziness and wall-staring I won't ever be a natural leader. (I don't really like these tests...)

Whenever I do these kinds of tests, they always ALWAYS say that I'm the sort of person who withdraws from reality, creating my own little world. And I guess that's kind of true.

They always label me as bloody "eccentric" too. That really annoys me, trying to be different or original or whatever is of no interest to me at all. Eccentric or arrogant. That's odd because the other week I was talking to someone in a club and she decided pretty much the same thing - that I was either some kind of social retard or else the most arrogant person she'd ever met. Maybe I am arrogant. Arrogant in a self-effacing way perhaps.

I got some cool mates though - Einstein, Satre, Timothy McVeigh, Jackie O, Lenin, Descartes, nearly everyone on ILE...

I found this test searching ILX for OJ Simpson (Apparently there is no OJ thread which is a shame!), but my manager (also one of my oldest friends) is obsessed with enneagram stuff so I figured I should find out more about it just to make sure he isn't in a cult.

Style Two is emphatically about people. Their concern is giving and getting love, their life's focus is on the needs of other people, often ignoring their own.

When they are healthy, they are altruistic, giving without counting the cost. They have an advanced ability to know what the people they love need and spend a great deal of effort and energy to meet those needs. The model of Christian sainthood is implicitly a healthy Two. They do whatever they do in the name of love. They are the helpers of the world and understand that all people are brothers and sisters.

As they get less healthy, they do less noble things -- still in the name of love. The give, but the gift is an investment their loved ones better return - or else. They become possessive and co-dependent. Instead of being a behind-the-scenes helper, they become pushy and demanding, ultimately they can become stalkers. Stage mothers and people who flock around powerful people to live vicariously through them are often unhealthy Twos.

Twos you may know: Nancy Reagan, Monica Lewinski, Leona Helmsly, Barbara Bush, Alan Alda, John Travolta, Madonna, Mr. Rogers.

I don't like the 'unhealthy' description very much! Stalker? Me? Never!

I'm only a fuckin goth, innit?

Fours are about authenticity. Fours have a deep and wide range of emotions and trust their subjective experience to make their life-decisions. They are frequently highly esthetic (not in talent, necessarily, but in concern), because they have a highly developed ability to think symbolically. This coupled with their emotional richness cries out for artistic expression.

Fours make a personal statement in many things they do, from the way they dress to their choice of Impressionist paintings. They rather enjoy not being part of the crowd and have a natural sense of aristocracy. Taste, they maintain, is not determined by votes.

When they are less healthy, their speech becomes lamentation as they claim their uniqueness because of their suffering. They often develop a spirit of entitlement to compensate for a feeling that somehow they are defective. This defect, paradoxically, is the basis for their claim that they deserve love. They make a claim on their friends' love because they have suffered and this suffering has made them more authentic - and so more lovable.

Fours you may know: Shakespeare, Dennis Rodman, Nicholas Cage, Marlon Brando, Ann Rice, (Vampires are depicted as Fours), Kate Winslet, Vincent van Gogh, Eric Clapton, Michael Jackson, John Malkovich, Thomas Merton, and Allen Watts.

When Fives become less healthy, they tend to withdraw. Instead of dealing with their sensitivity by being emotionally detached from results, they split off from reality, living in worlds of their own creating and not answering the demands of active living. Their natural independence as a thinker degenerates into arrogance. They can become quite arrogant or eccentric. In the movies, Fives are the "mad professors."

Fives you may know: Bill Gates, Scrooge, Buddha, T. S. Eliot, John Paul Sartre, Rene Descartes, Timothy McVeigh, Joe DiMaggio, Albert Einstein, H. R. Haldeman, Ted Kaczynski, Jacqueline Onassis and Vladimir Lenin.

Eights have a preoccupation with power. When they are healthy, they are natural leaders, protectors of the weak and filled with a gusto for life. They are in the forefront of fights for justice, they are fierce friends and loyal comrades. You can count on them to the bitter end. They see life as a battlefield and those are the virtues of a good soldier. Healthy Eights are honest, direct, touchingly gentle with the weak and often display an unguarded innocence, especially in a context of nature.

When Eights become unhealthy, their energy changes. They become more vengeful instead of seeking justice. They pump up their power and can't acknowledge vulnerability. Their war metaphor for life leads them to think in black and white, dividing the world into us and them. They attack to see how strong you are and they are without mercy in battle.

Eights you may know: Mike Tyson, Rush Limbaugh, John Wayne, F. Lee Bailey, Bob Dole, Mark McGwire, Saddam Hussein, Grace Slick and Debra Winger. In the sitcom Allie McBeal, Ling plays an Eight.

Saddam Hussein and Mike Tyson! What do I win?

Sevens are the eternal children of the enneagram. They can have the healthy side: exuberance, joy, energy, optimism, creativity and curiosity. They are natural storytellers, entrepreneurs, animators and cheerleaders. When healthy they are the Renaissance people, displaying a wide range of interests and competencies. They are hard to keep down. They are resilient and resourceful.

But as they get unhealthy, they become childish instead of childlike. They don't control their appetites, they are easily addicted to pleasures of all kinds: sugar, alcohol, sex, excitement, novelty and variety. They don't stick to anything very long and can become fickle in relationships. They become trapped in a routine of change and end up with what they hate most -- boredom.

Sevens you may know: Robin Williams, Mozart, Barbra Streisand, John F. Kennedy, George W. Bush III, Richard Feynman, the physicist, Babe Ruth, Magic Johnson and sportscaster Dick Vital

I took the quiz yesterday, and having thought it over, I believe it to be fair.

Sixes you may know: Woody Allen, George Bush, Candace Bergen, Julia Roberts, Mel Gibson, Bruce Willis, Bob Newhart, Richard Nixon, Adolph Hitler, Robert Redford, Bruce Springsteen.

Can't help but feel that that is incredibly inaccurate. Perhaps I should try again later.

7. I think my emotions are more intense than most people's
8. I am more sensitive than most people. I experience more pain than most.
9. The pain may be worth it though, I enjoy beauty so much.

Excuse me while I vomit.

they why bring it up? No fair! You must have gotten the OJ "3".

I'm a Type 4. Authenticity? Don't make me vomit. ::remembers her arguments about display and superficiality on the Clubbing thread:: oh wait, maybe I am.

my boss is having our team read the beginning of a book about enneagrams so we can rate ourselves and discuss communication strategieszzzzzzzzzzzzzz. i always hate reductive shit like this and the enneagram system is so unnecessarily complicated.

i think i'm a 9 btw.

my mom was into this for a few months when I was in high school. She would go around saying things like "oh, you're such a 3". so irritating.

The Enneagram seems to be having a moment. I'm just beginning to study it

You should study the blade instead.

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