Les Amants du Pont-Neuf - Classic or Dud?

I really do think it is GREBTE !!

Alex is a selfish, awful prick though. I can't think they're going to be happy in Le Havre.

hmm i dunno about this one - i loved it first time round but saw it about a year ago and thought it was mostly naff. Carax is an interesting character though, PolaX had got to be one of the most magnificent duds ever and the first one (what was it called? the night is young?) hooked me when i saw it years ago.

"Les Amants..." has lots of good scenes in it, id rather watch something like that than a boring succesful movie with few ideas. I'd say Classic and Dud. PolaX i would describe as Classically Dud.

Too "naff"? If anything it's the opposite I think.

ok, i need to see it again.

I love it. the first time I saw it was sat in apartment only two blocks away from Pont Neuf with a girl I errr, kinda liked. We then went out and walked along it at 2 in the morning. so classic.

PolaX less so...

Maybe I don't know what "naff" means though, that's entirely possible. I thought it meant like embarrassing and cheesy. Did you think it was cheesy?

dude @d@m you should have hurled her into the Seine and she would have been yours for life

Can't say that the thought didn't cross my mind.

You don't know "naff"? How many months have you been in the UK now?

So what does it mean, smarto-head?

naff means a bit cheesy, yes. what i mean is that i think he overeggs it. to many quirks, too many twists, too many things done purely for visual impact.

ignore me though. i need to see it again.

CLASSIC!

NO IDEA, SORRY!

classic

later i will have time to say why i agree with you

but for some reason the other features by carax stick in my head more; something about the tactile quality of 'mauvais sang' and its strange and unsettling and lovely way of framing its subjects; and the soundtrack of 'boy meets girl'; also 'pola x', but i can't think of something pithy to say about that one at the moment, except for: the motorcycle crash

or perhaps that's only because i've just seen this one once (it's only on video in a pan and scan version, and it came to theaters in chicago very briefly)

my friend taught me "naff" here a few months ago

well i kind of knew what it meant but when she first used it i laughed loud and long, so the next week she cut out several newspaper headlines with the word "naff" in them and gave them to me

i like when alex is running on the beach with a boner

or after when he whispers to her that he can now fall asleep and then once she's out he jabs himself with more of that stuff

this was supposed to have been the most expensive french film to that point or something; delays in filming meant the permit to shoot on the actual pont neuf (which is actually the oldest bridge in paris DO YOU SEE??) expired so they had to build a fake pont neuf out in the suburbs

I think I prefer 'Mauvais Sang'.

I like the part where she says he's is going to have to be more exaggerated and broad for her (since she's losing her sight) so he dutifully jumps off some walls and barks like a dog! Later when she hears the radio transmission from her worried family, I was confused. I thought her radio was broken? When she says "Alex'll fix it" I'm thinking "yeah Alex DID fix it, honey - for GOOD" but somehow it just kind of works correctly when he arrives.

The morning after she's left and Alex is on the verge of alcohol/downer OD, stumbling even worse than before, with that horrible little cough, and falls to his knees, and begins crawling... there is a medium close-up of him crawling towards the camera and it is the most amazing physical performance I can remember having seen. Anybody can jump off walls and bark like a dog. I've never seen someone who can crawl that slowly yet with such exertion, like all the muscles work but they're misfiring; none of the tiny movements add up to anything.

(Altho I guess anytime somebody starts "I'm leaning towards classic" how classic could it be; the end was a bitch-slap, but how else could it end really - something of a middle-ground between the crushing sadness of what the realistic ending would actually be, and the Hollywood versh though closer to the latter probably bah)

the night is young=mauvais sang

I much prefer 'mauvais sang' -- fucking classic Bowie moment. but, surely, made up of refs to old godard movies?!?!

I need to see 'pont neuf' agane, but i found it a bit one-note. and long.

I wanted it to go on forever!!

it definitely feels more "epic" than the other carax movies whatever its length

denis levant is incredible; tracer have you seen 'beau travail'?

i think of the ending every time i cross the seine and see those tourist boats

more expensive than Playtime even considering inflation?

Is the new DVD P&S?

tracer you definitely need to see beau travail if you love levant

i didn't know there was a dvd

there was a dvd in france but it's out of print

Enrique i agree - the bowie moment (Modern Love) is the bit of Mauvais sang that sticks in my head. Great!

Mauvais sang was pleasantly inconsequential. Pola X was loathesomely pretentious and every frame made me wince. Pont neuf I loved. It was romantic and spectacular and I can watch the firework display scene again and again.