Popular conservative television news anchor Bill O'Reilly, usually an outspoken Bush loyalist, said on Tuesday he was now skeptical about the Bush administration and apologized to viewers for supporting prewar claims that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.
"I was wrong. I am not pleased about it at all and I think all Americans should be concerned about this," O'Reilly said in an interview with ABC's "Good Morning America."
― Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― My Huckleberry Friend (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)
fucking asshole. he can keep bush for all i care.
― bill stevens (bscrubbins), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― My Huckleberry Friend (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― pete s, Tuesday, 10 February 2004 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― My Huckleberry Friend (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 19:57 (twenty-one years ago)
― Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― Prude (Prude), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)
Y'know, Clinton bombed the shit out of Baghdad many a'time while in office. He just didn't invade.
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 20:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― dean! (deangulberry), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)
i mean yeah it's sort of a boy who cried wolf scenario but still
(obv i think bush and his cronies and their policy is shit, do not take this post to mean anything to the contrary)
― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 20:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)
of course Saddam Hussein is evil and I feel little sympathy, the fact that I feel any is interesting. I felt bad for him when his sons were killed and their bodies shown on TV (even more despicable if you consider that they were just on the run from an army that invaded their country for non-existent reasons!!)
― Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― My Huckleberry Friend (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)
has anyone ever harped on you for doing something you didn't actually do? and they won't believe you? how fucking frustrating is that?
it's the reason there are so many movies about people who are wrongly confused
― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― Kerry (dymaxia), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)
does anyone else start to feel this weird sense of retrospective empathy for saddam hussein.....?
Empathy for another whipped-ass dictator? Maybe, if I wasn't enjoying his punishment so much.
― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― Speedy Gonzalas (Speedy Gonzalas), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)
Even if they do find WMDs now, it's still obvious that they didn't necessarily think for sure that he actually had them (as the CIA stated) and it sets a dangerous precedent. Which is perhaps the bigger issue here. Bush and his cronies have destroyed any trust other countries has in us, which is a cliche at this point but a true one.
― Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)
i think we're all caught in some fritz lang nightmare scenario and this really brought it home
― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)
Absolutely, but other countries were losing faith in the US long before Bush entered office. Clinton slowed the process down a bit, but the rot had already started.
― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― dean! (deangulberry), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 20:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― My Huckleberry Friend (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)
I'm sure Georgy likes hearing about that one.
― earlnash, Tuesday, 10 February 2004 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)
* == I'm being sarcastic about this part.
― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)
Two points I found interesting: first, the month's worth of ration the Iraqi government distributed to the people on the eve of the US bombing; second, if he was such a paranoid tyrant, how come he allowed SO MANY guns to be held by private citizens? That country is crawling with weapons of all sorts, not very common in repressive autocratic societies. He must not have been TOO afraid of his people (unlike Castro, who is very iron-fisted about any weapons.).
Iraq was a fairly unified country a year ago... only now are we seeing the sides being drawn for the coming civil war.
― andy, Tuesday, 10 February 2004 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)
As for this rewriting of Saddam as some sort of misunderstood humanitarian, excuse me while I vomit. The whole WMD issue was so much of a power struggle. Saddam knew the more reign he gave to inspection teams, the weaker he'd appear to Iraqis, to Arabs, to the rest of the world. So he tried to maintain some semblance of his defiant stance towards the West. And this time, he got squashed for it. Whether he had had weapons or not, I think his posture would still have been the same.
― bnw (bnw), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 22:09 (twenty-one years ago)
Damn skippy.
― Maimonides Tha Funkee Rabbi (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 22:10 (twenty-one years ago)
In short, he didn't fear the Iraqi populace as much as the US would have you believe, though he might have hid from Kurdish or US plots.
― andy, Tuesday, 10 February 2004 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― bnw (bnw), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)
What about the US / CSA conflict though? 'Twas violence that kept us together... the burning of Atlanta, et al.
― andy, Tuesday, 10 February 2004 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)
Anyone with half a fucking brain would have known the likelihood of Iraq having these weapons was far from a sure thing (esp. after they didn't use a single one in the "war").
Only one US expert on Iraq, Scott Ritter, agreed with you. His recent CSPAN interview was good. I'd like to see him get the recognition he deserves. He was pilloried.
yeah I feel this weird empathy.
Even as an avowed Bush-hater and full term opponent of the war (which I felt was an obvious set-up, tho I figured they'd find at least trace WMD somewhere), I think your empathy is badly, badly misplaced. Feel empathy or sorrow for Iraqis, before and after, would be my sanctimonious sounding advice.
unlike Castro, who is very iron-fisted about any weapons.
With a lower per capita gdp, at least Castro can point to high literacy and relatively good healthcare. According to ye old almanac, Iraq had only 58% literacy and vastly inferior child mortality rates. This is not intended as a defense of Castro.
...I always felt that those who snickered about him hiding like a coward in a hole forgot the fact that he was essentially hiding out...
Agreed, so meaningless.
― Hunter (Hunter), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― Hunter (Hunter), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)
Wait a minute... that Almanac is for 2001, the height of the sanctions... Iraq was very honest about it's problems during this time, it's poor health care, etc. Before the first Gulf War, it was relatively prosperous and even moderate compared to some of the neighbors. Whether you blame the lack of good health care on Saddam is besides the point (he spent everything on palaces, etc.)... most folks agree the net effect of the sanctions was very bad for the average Iraqi citizen. Cuba receives most of it's medial supplies from Europe, who has no sanctions.
I can't speak about literacy, except that many people don't go to school for a variety of reasons.
― andy, Tuesday, 10 February 2004 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― Hunter (Hunter), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― Hunter (Hunter), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)
i want to distance myself from any statements that imply that saddam was anything but awful
i was just saying that despite this fact i found myself with this weird spontaneous and very basic human empathy for *that one particular situation he found himself in*
― amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 09:47 (twenty-one years ago)
"What do you want me to do? Go over and kiss the camera?"
Sure thing, Bill.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 22:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 20:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― Nemo (JND), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― Bill O'Reilly (Baked Bean Teeth), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― Nemo (JND), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)
Moo Moo Mizzou!
― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 21:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 21:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 21:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― Remy (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― Remy (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)
DAEREST MAEN WHITE MAN, WHY YUO HAEV SO ULGY THINIG-A-LING?
― Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 21:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)
Love that liberal media.
― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)
(xp)
― why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 23:08 (twenty-one years ago)
― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 23:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 14 October 2004 01:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― Chris Marx, Thursday, 14 October 2004 02:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― g--ff (gcannon), Thursday, 14 October 2004 03:06 (twenty-one years ago)
mixtape ts: yngwie v. o'reilly!
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 14 October 2004 03:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 14 October 2004 03:09 (twenty-one years ago)
Yngwie: Curses in Swedish before he Unleashes the Fookin' Fury!O'Reilly: Curses America before he Unleashes the Pasty, Unwashed Vienna Sausage of Horror!
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Thursday, 14 October 2004 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)
(Oh, sorry, wrong guy...)
― Joe (Joe), Friday, 15 October 2004 01:20 (twenty-one years ago)
that's Falafel Of Horror
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 15 October 2004 01:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― now i've seen everything... have you ever seen a man eat his own head? no, well , Saturday, 16 October 2004 03:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Saturday, 16 October 2004 03:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Saturday, 16 October 2004 03:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Saturday, 16 October 2004 05:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 16 October 2004 05:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 16 October 2004 05:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Saturday, 16 October 2004 05:41 (twenty-one years ago)
then he sniffs it! EW!
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 16 October 2004 05:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Saturday, 16 October 2004 05:47 (twenty-one years ago)
ya learn sumthin' new every day.
― Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Saturday, 16 October 2004 05:48 (twenty-one years ago)
falafel! falafel! it pleasures me! bring me my pleasures!
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 16 October 2004 05:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 16 October 2004 05:58 (twenty-one years ago)
psst: i may know a few good employment lawyers in NYC, andrea!
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 16 October 2004 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)