i am a loser now ... i will move back with the parents (for a year?)

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i know that it's the punchline ... early thirties loser and all ... but it makes sense. i'm getting eaten alive by the bills, and the rent, and i don't work in NYC any more. so come the end of july, it's prob. back to central jersey to live with the folks.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 03:52 (twenty-two years ago)

this may the most open i've been about anything. but living alone just doesn't make sense. i have a job that i like and that pays OK, but with the bills & the rent it just doesn't go as far as it could. besides, it isn't as if i'm mr. partee-animal anyhow. and the job is a reasonable commute from my parents' place.

still, this does have the stamp of FAILURE! and LOSER! but those who would so judge me aren't paying my fucking bills.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 03:54 (twenty-two years ago)

No, don't give in! Move to a different city. come West, whatever. The parent thing is just *too* demoralizing!

― Orbit (Orbit), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 03:55 (twenty-two years ago)

you become a loser the second after you no longer need to be there from a financial POV. that is all.

― the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 03:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I admire you.

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 03:55 (twenty-two years ago)

not you.

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 03:55 (twenty-two years ago)

or you.

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 03:56 (twenty-two years ago)

what?

― Orbit (Orbit), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 03:56 (twenty-two years ago)

so does RJG

― the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 03:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I admire him.

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 03:57 (twenty-two years ago)

i know, orbit. but my folks are ... well, not "cool," but great people. besides, where they live is b/w NYC and Philly so it isn't as if i can't go either place!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 03:57 (twenty-two years ago)

but still, i always think of gross child-molester pervs and randroids who live in their parents' basement.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 03:58 (twenty-two years ago)

CHEER ME UP, DARNIT!!! :-)

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 03:58 (twenty-two years ago)

b/w?
i'm puzzled. your parents are a 45?

― Orbit (Orbit), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 03:58 (twenty-two years ago)

between.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 03:59 (twenty-two years ago)

don't listen to these naysayers, if it makes best sense then do it. yeah there's stigma, but only to jerks anyway right? if someone sweats you abt savin money then hell wittum.

― g--ff (gcannon), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 04:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh!!!
Well I guess so. Maybe I'm viewing this too much from how *I* would feel if I moved back home--a complete failure in every respect.

But if you don't have that feeling, and it is practical for you--then go for it with no regrets!

xpost

― Orbit (Orbit), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 04:00 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, I wouldn't feel like a failure because I like my parents and they like me and I don't live so far from them, anyway. and what the fuck is a failure?

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 04:01 (twenty-two years ago)

it may mess with your courtin' but the same sentiment applies there too really

(xpost ie hell wittum)

― g--ff (gcannon), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 04:02 (twenty-two years ago)

and I am not too old.

(x)

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 04:02 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, i think about all that $$$ i've spent on rent which could've been saved instead ... or paid down credit cards, or whatever. fuck "cool" anyway, i can't eat it or put it in a mutual fund.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 04:02 (twenty-two years ago)

It's not so bad. I had to do it a few years back and while it wasn't an ideal living situation it beats going into extreme amounts of debt/living on the streets/etc. It doesn't make you a failure, it's a good way for you to regroup and figure out where you want to live next.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 04:03 (twenty-two years ago)

:-)

(thank you nicole, from the bottom of my heart)

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 04:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, I'm going to be about $100k in the hole for my law school experience, so it's a good thing I live in Detroit or I'd be considering the same thing. At least I can live large here for only $400 or so per month, though I do have a roommate--I've been too poor to live alone for a few years now. More power to you.

― webcrack (music=crack), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 04:04 (twenty-two years ago)

RJG for me going back home means moving to a rural area that is 3,000 miles away, and where you have to drive 50 miles to go a decent grocery store. I have been on my own in life since 17, and to me being a failure would be to fail to support myself, and thus have to move back home. But everyone's situation is different. I think my first reaction was based too much from my own standpoint. Eisbar, go for it, you sound like you come from a nice family and that it would be a good thing for you. No one should judge you.

xxxxxpost

― Orbit (Orbit), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 04:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I was going to type in a response, but El Diablo Robotico pretty much summed up everything, I feel.

― Mellow Dee (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 04:05 (twenty-two years ago)

i live alone ... i just can't stand having roomates (bad college experience). which, of course, makes things more expensive than they could be, but this is something that i will not compromise on (har har "principles" = "back with Moms")

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 04:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I wasn't challenging you to define what the fuck a failure is anyway, by the way.

(x)

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 04:06 (twenty-two years ago)

who DID that song, "i'm livin' with my moms" anyway?

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 04:06 (twenty-two years ago)

and what the fuck is a failure?

-- RJG (r_gillander...) (webmail), February 11th, 2004. (RJG)

xpost

― Orbit (Orbit), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 04:07 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, I didn't type "and what the fuck is a failure, orbit, you fucking bitch? tell me right now or I don't know what I'll do."

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 04:08 (twenty-two years ago)

go to hell

― Orbit (Orbit), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 04:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Eisbar - you are part of a trend, per the NYT Metro Section (I think) front page of several weeks ago. I think their profile included a lawyer.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 04:11 (twenty-two years ago)

(thanks again guys)

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 04:12 (twenty-two years ago)

no, Eisabr, thank RJG, for his heartfelt contribution.

― Orbit (Orbit), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 04:13 (twenty-two years ago)

my parent's house IS nice ... it's a late-19th century farmhouse (with an old barn that they use as the garage) with all sortsa neat little architectural quirks (like fireplaces in just about every room).

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 04:14 (twenty-two years ago)

rock on Tad, do whatcha gotta do, no shame in yr game, get that debt shit under kontrol. be like run-d.m.c. and go "PAUSE" so you can rock in the future

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 04:15 (twenty-two years ago)

thank goodness this thread isn't about me.

like I kinda said, already, I think it could very well be the right and best decision and there is no shame in it.

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 04:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Sometimes you have to depend on other people to some degree to keep things going in your life. It can be a really difficult thing to admit, because there's this idea that as an adult if you're not completely independent you're some kind of loser. FUCK THAT. It sounds like it would work out well to move in with the parents. Go for it.

― JuliaA (j_bdules), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 04:28 (twenty-two years ago)

and still, no-one answered this thread's KEY question -- who sang "i'm livin' with my moms?"

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 04:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey, Eisbar, I'm leaving Hudson County, too! To, uh, go live at home and get my shit together.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 04:46 (twenty-two years ago)

thirstin howl III- "i still live with my moms" ?

― rgeary (rgeary), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 04:46 (twenty-two years ago)

rgeary is right i think!

rosemary -- we should have a "see ye hudson county" party or something!

― thirstinhowlIIIbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 04:48 (twenty-two years ago)

It's hard not to have a knee-jerk "I'm a loser" reaction. Just remember that you're only just parking yourself in your parents house for the time being and that you're not regressing back to being 14 years old again and you're not a serial killer. The positivity you get from being able to save money will more than offset the short-term feelings of failure that are attached to "moving back home".

If it would help at all, give yourself a time limit and some sort of plan - like you'll be there for the next 12 months or something. Nothing overwhelming, but something that you can look forward to and will keep you motivated. It's a temporary situation... don't sweat it.

And by moving you get to get rid of clutter and that's always a nice feeling.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 04:48 (twenty-two years ago)

did you guys see that episode of cribs with the guy from Sum41 that still lives with his parents? it was great!

― Pablo Cruise (chaki), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 04:49 (twenty-two years ago)

haha I was totally going to suggest that. Or more like a "Screw You, Hudson County!" party.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 04:49 (twenty-two years ago)

do what ya gotta do. i did this after losing my job a few years ago and my lease ran out. it ain't the best, as it's survivable as long as you don't revert back to how you were when you were 17 or something.

― Kingfish Beatbox Botox Funktion (Kingfish), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 04:51 (twenty-two years ago)

you're not a serial killer

you haven't seen the insides of my apartment, chris :-)

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 04:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Can i move in too?

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 04:54 (twenty-two years ago)

i live at my mum's too - coming up for a year!

I'm nothing like George Castanza.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 04:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Skipping 33 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

"financial services employees" isn't just stockbrokers, financial analysts, researchers, etc. -- it's also the support staff for those people (the secretaries, the mail clerks, the interns).

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 17:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm with Enrique on this one. If the little darlings can't have their $3,000/m loft apartments they're going to scweam and scweam and then move back in with Mom and Dad at the ranch.

x-post - yeah, but these people had to find non-dot-com jobs before the boom and they've got to find them again afterwards. Plus ca change, c'est la meme chose)

― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 17:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the situation here is different to how it is in London - I've met/heard of plenty of grads who have been unemployed for upwards of 4/5 months. I don't work in financial services or the internet, and it took me as long to find my fairly menial job. Even temp agencies weren't hiring, and when I was in London I could always rely on temping at least three weeks a month.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 17:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean - it isn't high school kids who are scooping ice cream or making your soy latte.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 17:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Adam - you've just described the media industry all over the world. I know you're not complaining, but you sound almost surprised. Don't be.

― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 17:28 (twenty-two years ago)

I dunno. It sounds like you lived above your means and now it's catching up with you. My vote is for loser!

― dean! (deangulberry), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 17:29 (twenty-two years ago)

It's good living at home, cheap rent and very close to work! Though it's kinda of an excuse to just take it easy and not do anything for the future, but oh well, I'm not so old.

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 17:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Mark - I've worked in media jobs on and off for the last 3/4 years. None of this is news to me, I'm just stating a fact, as obvious as it may be.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 17:32 (twenty-two years ago)

And I'm not talking about just the media industry. or the web. or financial services. etc.

Sorry if I'm boring anyone. I'll go now.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 17:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry Adam, not trying to be difficult! Glad we agree with each other.

― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 17:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Agreeing about the misery of modern-day (un)employment = classik!

;)

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 17:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Eisbar, I think you should try harder. Don't accept defeat.

― dean! (deangulberry), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 17:45 (twenty-two years ago)

But Tad hasn't been defeated! He sounds torn between two towns work and travel wise, makes sense to be equidistant to both. Rent a small place near them, maybe as you may regret a lack of nookie independence. But that's the only caveat.

Mark, also you are v. lucky WRT your fallback employment option - frankly the more I learn about the creative and media industries, both fiscally and how talent can be directed, yours is the sort of job I'd 'kill' to have and would be killer at doing. Sigh.

Also if yr out Fri want to pass you a cool novel, but will bring and explain.

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 17:49 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm not shedding tears about those who had $3K/month lofts in tribeca or soho who can't pay now b/c the stock market tanked. i have an "elite" job, too, and i can't pay for that (nor can any 1st-year associate at BigLaw, not in NYC anyway [maybe Philly or Chicago, but i don't live in Philly or Chicago]).

and it isn't like i was (or am) living large -- it's hard to save much money when you go to school for 4 years (3 for the JD, another for the LLM) and graduate in the shittiest job market in years (and with a career services office and dean whose "advice" to those not going to BigLaw (i.e., the majority of students) was "go pound sand!") ... ESPECIALLY when you went to school after having big $$$'s dangled in yer face.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 17:51 (twenty-two years ago)

and NONE of the savings from still livin' w/ the moms is going to the law school, that's fer damn sure!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 17:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Ummm, Mark - what is it you do again? I understand if you don't want to say on a public forum.

Just curious... :)

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 18:02 (twenty-two years ago)

i tried to do this once when i was 21, neither of my parents would let me so i lived in my car and on various peoples couches for a year.

― Chris V (Chris V), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 18:03 (twenty-two years ago)

go pound sand.

― law school dean! (deangulberry), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 18:10 (twenty-two years ago)

There's nothing loser about this move.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 18:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Adam, I'm a TV & film agent's assistant.

I also have firm and inflexible views on anyone without kids earning more than £30K a year EVER complaining about money. But I'm not going to go into that.

― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 18:36 (twenty-two years ago)

theres an argument for moving back in with parents, helping pay off their mortgage, pooling resources etc, possibly making life easier for them than for yourself.

mine live in a different city, it isnt feasible. would i consider it if we were in same city, for the above reasons, possibly, yea

― Stringent Stepper (Stringent), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 18:53 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm about 3 months away from having to do this myself (unless the job situation improves) and it does seem a bit like admitting defeat but financially it makes nothing but sense (£850 in bills a month coming out of my savings and nothing coming in. and for what? i don't particularly like it here. i'd miss everyone i know here but for 850 a month i could visit every weekend...)

how i'm going to get a flat's worth of stuff into my bedroom at home is the big question 8)

andy

― koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 20:34 (twenty-two years ago)

after two years of living by myself in a gigantic, beautiful apartment in Chicago close to downtown, when I found I was moving to NYC I thought there'd be no way I could handle living with roommates again. And while my first experience in Queens reinforced that belief, my place/roommates now have proven to me that living with roommates isn't always horrible (it pretty much had been in the past). It helps that our place has a TON of room and nice amenities and is in a great neighborhood and our landlords are nice - cuts down on the overall stress. Also, my 2 roommates have proven to be really great - nice, courteous, generally clean but not anal, fun to be around, and really busy (so they're not around that much). I know you're not gonna change your mind, Tad, but I think that living in NYC - unless you're fabulously wealthy and/or hooked up with good rent control action - really requires roommates.

As for the moving-in-with-parents thing, from the way you describe it, it'll probably be fine. I'm considering the same thing myself, if I can't find a job. The problem is, they live 800 miles away and in a town with somewhat limited employment opportunities (even if I do love it as a town). And of course living there would kinda fuck me over re: relationships (i.e. I have a ladyfriend that I like to spend time with and the long distance thing ain't to my liking). So I'd have to figure out how to get my stuff there, or whether or not I'd even have to sell it to get there (more likely), then what to do for work. Oh and I'd probably have to buy a car, too. Don't get me wrong, if this is inevitable, I'll make the best of it (being home around xmastime helped me reconcile with the notion of moving back and it not being a big deal), but I'd rather stay here, if I can. We'll see (I do have a job interview on Friday - the first since October).

― hstencil, Thursday, 12 February 2004 01:24 (twenty-two years ago)

You won't take my suggestion, but they do offer an excellent student loan repayment program that will eradicate your debt, you won't have to worry about rent, you will get new kinds of work experiences and opportunities not available anywhere else in the world, and chicks dig it.

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 12 February 2004 02:03 (twenty-two years ago)

plus you might get to go to Gitmo!

― hstencil, Thursday, 12 February 2004 02:05 (twenty-two years ago)

i actually thought about being a JAG, for what it's worth.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 12 February 2004 02:05 (twenty-two years ago)

(which would be amusing, me in military court bailing out Tombot after one of his drunken Pizza Christ outings)

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 12 February 2004 02:06 (twenty-two years ago)

If you do, go usmc, navy officer uniforms are so bellhop.

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 12 February 2004 02:07 (twenty-two years ago)

navy officer uniforms are so bellhop

Grr.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 02:08 (twenty-two years ago)

it's not so bad - in Singapore, 90% of young unmarrieds live with their parents. you can't even apply for a publicly owned flat (the only affordable housing for non-rich folk) until you're over thirty. like others said, just try to enjoy their company while you still have them.

I'd imagine it's tough in your profession, especially when you have to watch former classmate turned Sull(r0m/Crev@th fux0rs throwing their six figures around. Keep your head up, and think that this is something you can boast about to your kids one day when you're rich and famous ("I was so broke when I was your age that I had to move back in with my parents, and now you want me to buy you a yacht?!?!?")

― Dave M. (rotten03), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Then deny them that gift and send them off to slave on your tea plantations.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 04:05 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...

You know, the only thing worse than moving in with your parents is moving back in with them and having them to decide to start a major apartment renovation two months before you're planning to move back out.

Um, so, now I have to find a place by April 1 unless I want to sleep on someone's floor or in a pile of dust. Speaking of, anyone have a floor for me to sleep on in NYC? Fuxors.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Friday, 12 March 2004 02:43 (twenty-two years ago)

the only thing potentially worse than that might be moving home right as your parents are getting divorced. and selling their house. that i know anything about that.

i feel for you aaron.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 12 March 2004 03:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I really shouldn't complain, actually... it's their apartment and they can do whatever they want. It's just really annoying.

Jess, are you in the city? I have to go to APT in a little bit to pick up some flyers and no one wants to meet me for a drink.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Friday, 12 March 2004 03:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Aaron, what are you looking for? I'll keep my eyes open for any places opening up.

― hstencil, Friday, 12 March 2004 05:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Some thoughts on this:

fuck "cool" anyway, i can't eat it or put it in a mutual fund.

Cultural theorists call cool 'subcultural capital', and in a sense it is bankable, in that it plugs people into networks which help them find work and gain advantage.

in Singapore, 90% of young unmarrieds live with their parents

This is true of a lot of young people in Hong Kong and Tokyo too. In Japan these people are called hikikomori, literally 'the barricaded ones':

'The Japanese call kids who cut themselves off from the world, staying at home with their parents rather than going out into the job market, Hikikomori (it's abbreviated to Hikki). In times of recession, many young Japanese simply stay home. They personalise little rooms at the top of milquetoast suburban houses in exaggeratedly eccentric ways. (You can see pages of photos of these rooms in Japanese magazines like Zipper.) They retreat into the deep virtual spaces of music, the internet, magazines, mangas and video games.'

The essay that para is from details why, in high density Asian cities, being a 'hikki' is not as stigmatised as it might be in the west: the Asian city is an 'indoor' city. There isn't much of a difference between your apartment (or your parents') and the amenities surrounding it. Everyone has an inadequate apartment, and the city has had to provide compensations.

No fridge? The convenience store's cool cabinets are accessible 24 hours. Think of them as your fridge. No bath? There's a sento or public bathhouse around the corner. No privacy for bringing lovers back? There's a love hotel nearby designed specifically for this.

The Japanese also have an amazing ability to ignore people who are breathing down their necks (including ignoring their sexual behaviour). I spent some time last summer in a family home in Osaka where adult children in their late 20s were still living with their parents, and had brought their partners to live in the house too. This was a house with the most basic bathrooms you ever saw. Everybody, of whatever generation, stayed in their private rooms. The communal space (kitchen, living room) were always empty. That's because the city itself was the family's 'living room'. They all rushed out every morning to... live.

― Momus (Momus), Friday, 12 March 2004 11:19 (twenty-two years ago)

i was going to post the same remark. it is a cultural thing. my g/f is japanese and her brothers still live their parents and they are in their early thirties. and its not like they dont do anyting, i mean, one is an engineer and the other owns a business. i dunno. she tells me that in america the culture strikes her as one that throws away their children.

― erkjyht, Friday, 12 March 2004 13:31 (twenty-two years ago)

i don't think that parents who want their 25 or 30 year olds to be independant and get their own appartment, especially if they have jobs!,is parents "throwing their children away".
but it is indeed a cultural thing. some cultures are just very overprotective of their (grown-up) children

― san micho, Friday, 12 March 2004 16:30 (twenty-two years ago)

if it was feasible i would live at home again i think. some parents might like their children to move back, certainly from a financial perspective

― gareth (gareth), Friday, 12 March 2004 16:35 (twenty-two years ago)

oh yes, my mother is overjoyed to lump some of her financial burden onto me, especially as she living with a single income for the first time in about twenty years now.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 12 March 2004 18:50 (twenty-two years ago)

When the internet bubble burst, I held on for about a year but in the end had to move in with the folks for a few months. It was actually really nice to reconnect with them. If I hadn't been out of work it might have been perfect, but that did cause (mainly self-induced guilt related) stress.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 12 March 2004 18:58 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah if i wasnt pulling down at least something like a (below poverty-level) income writing i have a feeling it would be a lot, lot worse

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 12 March 2004 19:00 (twenty-two years ago)

(this is not to say i still dont feel mightily embarassed by the whole thing, which is how i think it should be.)

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 12 March 2004 19:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I am living with my parents for a little while. I was hoping it would just be a couple of days, now it looks like it might be a couple of weeks. I might have to move in permanently here if circumstances don't change, but I have no fucking idea how that could possibly work. Arrgh.

― JuliaA (j_bdules), Friday, 12 March 2004 19:08 (twenty-two years ago)

three weeks pass...

UPDATE: i may be able to dodge this bullet after all. my income's about to pick up ... still undecided, but i'm leaning towards staying on my own.

so i may still be a loser, or maybe not.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 2 April 2004 05:50 (twenty-one years ago)

do yr best tad. most days i feel like i would have been better off drinking myself to death in the summer of 2002.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 2 April 2004 05:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm faced with the same predicament. Money is tight, my mum stays alone in a four bedroomed house a mere 30 mins away and I HATE the idea of her being on her own. My boyfriend and I would be able to save so much money if we moved in to her house, we wouldn't step on each others toes cause she works nights most of the time, so what is stopping us?

I guess it sounds like a step back, but at least we'd be able to save up a deposit for our own place instead of living out of my dingy rented 'studio' apartment in the scuzziest street in town.

― Rumpy Pumpkin (rumpypumpkin), Friday, 2 April 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm moving out.... Actually have the place but am waiting a week to move in. Just in time because my parents renovation is starting and we're basically crammed into 2 rooms.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Friday, 2 April 2004 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I stayed with my parents a mere 6 weeks when I moved back from Europe before I moved to cali. It wasn't motivated by money, but by trying to figure out where to move and the thought that I should spend some time with them as they're getting kind of old. That's all good, and everything, but if you move in with your parents, you will go insane. Not inspite of, but because of the quirky architectural elements. Get roommates, join a commune, try a homeless shelter or your car. But don't do it.

― Skottie, Friday, 2 April 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Rumpy, in your situation (from what you have just explained), I would totally move back into my mums.

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 2 April 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

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