Kerry's VP pick?

As if.

*BREATHE*

but this fun in the meantime, so anyway. I'm guessing it's going to be either or both of a younger person and a woman, but in any event someone geographically diverse and more ideologically moderate than Kerry is claimed to be. I'd say Edwards' chances are at least good. A critical question may come down to the potential candidates' stands on the populism issue, not to mention Kerry's stand on it.

Potential Nominees:
Max Cleland
Hillary Clinton
John Edwards
Dianne Feinstein
Dick Gephardt
Mary Landrieu
Janet Napolitano
Bill Nelson
Bill Richardson
Jay Rockefeller
Tom Vilsack
Mark Warner

Prepare to be really surprised. I don't understand why people attach themselves to the existing candidates. It almost never happens. Supposedly Kerry's internal polls don't show him adding a single state for the Dems, while Bayh apparently gives the Dems Indiana and I imagine Breaux (who it's rumored has been contacted) gives us LA.

Ya think? (I'm being serious here -- what is the actual mood of the rest of the country?)

(* = not a "distraction" in the sense that gay couples DON'T have serious concerns here -- they DO [esp. this lovely language of denying the "incidents of marriage (like inheritance and employee benefits rights that straight married people have)].)

He is up for re-election this year in the Senate and I doubt that he would give that up to become a VP canidate.

I met Bayh at a college Democrat meeting in 88 when he was first running for governor. He was quite engaging, especially compared to some other politicians i've met.

Yes, as Sec. of State, Governor (twice), and Senator (he's in his first term). But I suppose it had nothing to do with the fact that his Dad, with whom he shares a name (they are Birch Evans Bayh, Jr. and III, respectively) was for 37 years a member of the Indiana State House (including Speaker) and then a U.S. Senator (admittedly defeated in 1980). When Evan was elected to his first term as Governor, did all the voters know he was 32 years old?

I find him vaguely smarmy and unprincipled (very right-leaning, but it seems more out of necessity than belief), and wholly uninteresting. He's exactly the kind of Democrat that Howard Dean supporters hate.

i'm wondering what people think Dean should do if/when(more when then if at this point) he gives up the fight? should he disappear and not get in the way of kerry or should he stay out there railing against Bush. i'm kinda hoping he does the latter. and i think he has served his purpose too. he woke those other monoliths up and that ain't easy to do. and he woke a lot of voters up as well.

Colette?

DEAN IS NOT NADER!!! He is a Dem party partisan and has said repeatedly that he will fully support the nominee. His current reticence to attack any other candidate by name (he is stepping up his Kerry attacks but in general terms, just like Edwards was doing to Dean in the past) is an expression of his loyalty to the party. The people that one has to worry about are Dean's *supporters*.

THIS is what i'm hoping for. and not the take-your-ball-and-go-home mentality that spurned pols resort to. hell, i think clark and leiberman and all the other losers should be outside supermarkets registering people to vote. i hate when people give up like that.

As it is, he can coast for a long time on this run - lobbyist, maybe run for Senate, work in the party, etc. Being Nader would spoil on that and leave him with nothing (but his fortune and MD and so on).

Plus he doesn't have issues to air. Nader ran because he had issues to address that he thought were being ignored by the democrats, beef with the two majors about how politics are run, and a history of activism. He wasn't a politician. Dean is.

I'd be more worried about Al Sharpton as Nader2k4, if I were the Democrats.

http://lisupras.com/wooo.html

"Indiana is what happens when you go too far to the right in order to fend off people who are even further to the right."

Are you a Democrat? Would you rather someone like Bayh not win election? This kind of thinking is why the Democrats have lost power in so many states. Dean's odd ball comment a couple of months back did have one truth, many people are voting against their own pocketbook.

Until one party or the other can get a consensus, the whole political process is going to be a drag and things are only going to get worse. I just hope that the Republicans don't get that consensus, because I think things could get much uglier than they are now.

Gebhardt -- under his leadership, the Democrats went from a majority to minority power in the house.

Cleland -- No matter how ugly they went after him, Cleland still lost his last election.

Feinstein -- Why would she take a step down? Besides it isn't like California is going to go for Bush anyway.

Hillary -- Yeah right. The news people and the Republicans hope this will happen. It is not going to happen.

Rockefeller -- Another insanely rich Democrat on the ticket? Jay seems to be enjoying getting at George from where he is currently located.

Bill Richardson -- He just became Governor of New Mexico and if he ran it will just bring up all of the crap that happened when he ran the Energy Department.

Mark Warner -- He is a first term governor.

At this point, I don't know who will be the Democratic VP canidate.

I'll say this, if Bush is looking weak in polls going into the summer, I wouldn't be suprised if Cheney's health keeps him from running for a second term.

eeeeeeeeeeh, not the best assumption to make.

Gore defeated Bush handily out here, and I think the last time the state voted GOP in the election was the eighties. The margin might be closer but I believe Gabbneb's correct.

also, are there any prominent/promising ohio democrats (besides kucinich)?

Al Gore + Ralph Nader, 2000 - 6,279,910
Al Gore, 2000 - 5,861,203
Ronald Reagan, 1984 - 5,467,009
Bill Clinton + Ralph Nader, 1996 - 5,356,851
Bill Clinton, 1992 - 5,121,325
George H.W. Bush, 1988 - 5,054,917
Gray Davis, 1998 - 4,860,702
Arnold Schwarzenegger + Tom McClintock, 2003 - 4,769,923
Michael Dukakis, 1988 - 4,702,233
George W. Bush, 2000 - 4,567,429
Ronald Reagan, 1984 - 4,524,858
Yes on Recall, 2003 - 4,415,398
Walter Mondale, 1984 - 3,922,519
Gerald Ford, 1976 - 3,882,244
Jimmy Carter + Eugene McCarthy, 1976 - 3,800,696
Arnold Schwarzenegger, 2003 - 3,743,431
George H.W. Bush, 1992 - 3,630,574
Gray Davis, 2002 - 3,533,490
Jimmy Carter, 1980 - 3,083,661

hmmm

Excited to work with you @AOC and the rest of our teammates. Rolling up our sleeves! @JoeBiden knows this is the biggest crisis facing our planet, and we can turn climate energy into climate action. @AOC - will call to talk more soon! https://t.co/b5xc5tFWuW

— John Kerry (@JohnKerry) May 13, 2020

I'm still impressed that Kerry has worked with AOC on this. She now says it's been an honour to work with him, as they present what they claim are improvements to Biden's environmental policy.

More generally, Kerry's Twitter page is a bit more spiky and spirited than I'd have expected.

i don't have any issues with John Kerry, I quite like him. I mean I like him more than Biden, for instance.

Today the 6 Biden-Sanders Unity Task Forces are unveiling final language.

The Climate Task Force accomplished a great deal. It was an honor to serve as co-chair w/ Sec. @JohnKerry.

Among the notable gains: we shaved *15 years* off Biden’s previous target for 100% clean energy. https://t.co/pnLj7uufeg

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) July 8, 2020

akm: so do I! Always did.

I really think we could swap out Biden for Kerry and most voters wouldn't notice. just gaslight America into thinking "Joe Biden" is the long-faced dude married to the ketchup heiress.

fully expecting AOC to be cancelled for associating with an imperialist killer

Kerry has significant policy problems in his history, but he was especially bad at running for prez. (and still almost won)

Kerry gets credit for (a) investigating BCCI (b) exposing the Contra-drugs bullshit.

I still don't understand why Kerry sublimated his already-wafer-thin personality for the national stage.

John Kerry: "When this President goes overseas, it isn't a goodwill mission, it's a blooper reel." #DemConvention https://t.co/f4hSCWZoSM pic.twitter.com/dJztqXPnRM

— The Hill (@thehill) August 19, 2020

Vote D to bring competence back to US imperialism