You're my best friend and I hate you

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Have you ever felt like you just wanted to yell and curse at your friends? That's how I felt today. I didn't actually yell or curse at them, but I really wanted to. I did, however, give one of my friends (my "best friend") some attitude. I just didn't want her to talk to me or even be around me today.

Does this happen to you and does it happen often? I found that lately it's been happening to me more often than before.

Aja (aja), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Me posing this question to myself yesterday, after I took my wig off:

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Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:08 (twenty-two years ago)

mm i want 2 smack my friend in the mouth now she has been a right bitch and isnt talkin 2 me now till whenever it suits her

Emma williams (Emma williams), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I know what you mean, aja.

hope it gets better, for you.

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I hope so too. They are my only friends seeing as to how I can't leave this house alone or go out by myself at any time. I don't really know anyone outside my school.

Aja (aja), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:14 (twenty-two years ago)

This has also happened to me before. Many, many, many times before. I get fed up with these individuals because they usually aren't interested in the same things I'm interested in and don't seem to want to care. But then sometimes you find yourself facing a difficult situation and if your friend is a true one, your friend will stick with you through this difficult situation. Then you'll come to realize that while you and your friend may not see eye-to-eye on a number of things, this friendship is worth keeping.

Of course, if your friend doesn't stick with you through difficult times, you can feel free to cut the friendship loose because that friend wasn't a good one to begin with, just to let you know.

Mellow Dee (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:21 (twenty-two years ago)

is friendship a two-way street?

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I almost typed 'tow-away'.

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Being a teenager is tough shockah!

Aaron W (Aaron W), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:35 (twenty-two years ago)

You're very right Mellow Dee. My friends are true friends. I always choose wisely. They are kind but they can be very annoying at times, especially my best friend. Sometimes, well most of the time, they will act like they are younger thant they are. It makes me feel bad. It makes me wonder if I'm "maturing" too fast or if they need to learn how to act their age.

Aja (aja), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Try travelling with them. I nearly ditched my best friend in Montreal in a fight over who was going to carry our umbrella.

Dave M. (rotten03), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Dude... wait till you get to college.

ModJ (ModJ), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Some of them ask weird questions. I hate it when I say a word and they don't even know what it means. Then I have to explain it to them.

Aja (aja), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:42 (twenty-two years ago)

what? you don't like having to explain things?

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Huh?

ModJ (ModJ), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:45 (twenty-two years ago)

the ironing ah ferget it

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:47 (twenty-two years ago)

It depends.

I said, "Hence the name."

One of my friends said "What?"

I just said, "That's how it got its name."

I thought everyone knew that phrase.

Aja (aja), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:47 (twenty-two years ago)

what was the name?

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:49 (twenty-two years ago)

What?

ModJ (ModJ), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:49 (twenty-two years ago)

She said, "This chocker is, umm, choking me."

Aja (aja), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:50 (twenty-two years ago)

what's a chocker?

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry.

Choker. It's like a necklace but it fits tightly around your neck.

Aja (aja), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:53 (twenty-two years ago)

no wonder it was choking her.

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:53 (twenty-two years ago)

hence the name

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:57 (twenty-two years ago)

A choker is the thing you attach the leash to...

...before you make her sniff the glove...

ModJ (ModJ), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:57 (twenty-two years ago)

It's her birthday today. She didn't wear a choker though.

Aja (aja), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:57 (twenty-two years ago)

why was she complaining?

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Coz she's a fucking bitch

ModJ (ModJ), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:59 (twenty-two years ago)

She's not a bitch...all the time

Aja (aja), Thursday, 12 February 2004 04:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't have as much in common with my friends as I did before. This might be the main reason I'm getting frustrated with them.

Aja (aja), Thursday, 12 February 2004 04:28 (twenty-two years ago)

hi aja!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 12 February 2004 04:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh hi.

What do want?

Your birthday's coming up right?

Aja (aja), Thursday, 12 February 2004 04:36 (twenty-two years ago)

next month ... i believe that YOUR birthday is a few days away!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 12 February 2004 04:41 (twenty-two years ago)

and hey, don't worry about not having as much in common with your friends as you used to ... they still like you, yes?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 12 February 2004 04:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah.

My mom and I went to the store today and the guy at the cashier gave me some Valentine's Day stickers. I told him my birthday is on Valentine's Day and he gave me more stickers.

they still like you, yes?

Yeah I guess. I'm a good friend but I think I'm starting to make it more obvious that I'm getting annoyed by them.

Aja (aja), Thursday, 12 February 2004 04:45 (twenty-two years ago)

well, we're your friends too.

try to be patient. i'm sure that they don't mean to annoy you, especially since they still like you.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 12 February 2004 04:49 (twenty-two years ago)

In general, I try to be a good friend, but it's hard to remain friends with people who let me down repeatedly -- flaking out when I'm relying on them to meet me someplace or help me with something, being drama queens, testing my loyalty to them in unspeakably shitty ways and getting pouty when they can sense I'm disappointed in them. I don't like to spread myself too thin so I keep my social circle pretty small, and I'd rather have a few close friends that I really like and trust (and who like/trust me) than a black book full of people who only vaguely give a shit that I'm alive unless they need something from me or they think they need to keep an eye on me for some reason.

jody (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 12 February 2004 04:51 (twenty-two years ago)

well, aja's problem right now seems to be that her present social circle is quite small ... and not fully under her control.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 12 February 2004 04:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Hah!

You do not know my best friend. It's almost like it's her mission in life to annoy people, and I'm the main target. She likes to annoy. She will say the stupidest thing and ask the same question a milllion times. (I know, my what post. But she asks for the simple reason of annoyance)

Aja (aja), Thursday, 12 February 2004 04:54 (twenty-two years ago)

but you still like her, since she's your best friend. so she has some likeable things about her, yes?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 12 February 2004 04:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Sometimes. I'm not really if she's my best friend any more. I know for a fact, I'm her best friend.

Aja (aja), Thursday, 12 February 2004 04:58 (twenty-two years ago)

what do your other friends think about her?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 12 February 2004 05:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Crazy, annoying, umm, kind.

Oh, one thing that really bothers me is that she thinks she could beat up just about anyone sometimes. Man. I am way stronger than her. I'm stronger than all my friends. And I mean stronger physically and mentally.

Aja (aja), Thursday, 12 February 2004 05:06 (twenty-two years ago)

maybe this is her way of both getting attention and trying to act tough. do you think so?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 12 February 2004 05:08 (twenty-two years ago)

or maybe she's testing you, to see if you still really like her?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 12 February 2004 05:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't know.

When she tries to threaten people, it looks like a joke, but she takes it seriously. Then they kind of make fun of her by pretending they're scared of her, and she thinks they really are.

Aja (aja), Thursday, 12 February 2004 05:11 (twenty-two years ago)

It's pretty common for your best friend to be your biggest enemy at the same time. If you're willing to keep up appearances and avoid the truth then this sort of stuff can go on for decades without any real conflict. Trust me.

may pang (maypang), Thursday, 12 February 2004 05:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Did you ever actually have a childhood, Aja? You know, just playing with your mates and not thinking about them in a critical manner like a 25 year old philosphy major?

I don't mean to sound like I'm having a go but geez, enjoy being a kid, cuz it only gets worse from here believe me. Lighten up a little! Theyre TWELVE (presumably), you dont need to be so hard on kids for acting like KIDS!

God the world makes me cranky sometimes.

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 12 February 2004 05:13 (twenty-two years ago)

well, aja's problem right now seems to be that her present social circle is quite small ... and not fully under her control.

yeah, sorry for the thread hijack... saw the thread title and was suddenly reminded of a couple of old friends that i had to ditch, because as aja says, i just wanted to "yell and curse" at them far too often. i hear ya.

jody (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 12 February 2004 05:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry that came out much ruder than I meant it to. I just feel sad, that you have the concerns that belong to someone much older than you, you should just be having fun.

xpost

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 12 February 2004 05:16 (twenty-two years ago)

*walks out of thread*

may pang (maypang), Thursday, 12 February 2004 05:27 (twenty-two years ago)

it wouldn't be so bad if god were like dave grohl ... i mean, dave grohl seems like a likeable enough person and all that.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 12 February 2004 05:28 (twenty-two years ago)

No. Not a person like that. I mean person, the kind of person, how you want to live your life kind of thing.

Aja (aja), Thursday, 12 February 2004 05:30 (twenty-two years ago)

And if I was Dave Grohl, I'd have to pay a lot of gum money at school, I'd be broke more often than I already am.

Aja (aja), Thursday, 12 February 2004 05:31 (twenty-two years ago)

five years pass...

I have one. My best friend, I've known for years. Went through some rough times, with his divorce last year. I was there for him as much as I could be, made sure to keep him active, always invited him out, but he often declined and I understood.

I met someone at a hobby of mine that I decided I was interested in, and a friend of mine gave me a tip that she was interested in me. So I asked her out, and was stupid enough to tell the best friend.

Now, the best friend happened to know this person from many years earlier (though at the time, he wasn't sure how), but he didn't talk to her or know her currently. No sooner did I tell him about her that he hijacked a Facebook thread that her and I were having and threatened to tell old stories about me. Nothing harmful, but in the weeks coming he was always replying to her facebook posts and occasionally making flirtatious comments and having lengthy conversations with her on there.

I wound up starting to date this girl, and the behavior continued. Then both of them remembered where they knew each other from and it got worse. And he'd still semi-hit on her. But I was ok with it because it was still semi-innocent.

Then then started instant messaging each other...a LOT. I'd find out he was talking about me, too, and while it was semi-joking, he wasn't exactly talking me up. He'd tell her embarassing things about me or things that didn't paint me in a good light.

It got more and more frequent to the point where it'd interrupt my own conversations with her. Then, he met a friend of this girl's who he became interested in. Finally...I said, he can leave my date alone. So we invite him out so he can talk to her.

And he does, a little, but pretty much just talks to MY date most of the night. I almost think he's doing it on purpose, just to annoy me to the point where I just say "fuck it" because he doesn't like it that I have a date and he doesn't.

Or maybe I'm just overreacting? Who cares anymore....

III IV V (Bo Jackson Overdrive), Monday, 30 March 2009 22:04 (sixteen years ago)

he wants to fuck your girlfriend, if he is not doing it already

akm, Monday, 30 March 2009 22:28 (sixteen years ago)

sounds like either a) your friend is interested in getting w/your girl or b) wants you not to have a girlfriend so that you're "even."

unexpected item in bagging area (sarahel), Monday, 30 March 2009 22:30 (sixteen years ago)

thinking more the latter. Oh, forgot to mention...anytime I'd spend most of the weekend with the girl, he'd put up facebook statuses whining about being alone. and on one occasion accused me of 'leaving him behind' since I didn't invite him to a movie when the two of us went.

III IV V (Bo Jackson Overdrive), Monday, 30 March 2009 22:32 (sixteen years ago)

Which begs another sub-question. Is it possible to call a friend a 'best' friend, and yet when ranking friends in terms of trust, put 3-4 other friends on top of him in that list?

III IV V (Bo Jackson Overdrive), Monday, 30 March 2009 22:33 (sixteen years ago)

I'd say you might want to re-evaluate his "best friend" status. But, as you said, he has recently been through a really rough patch in his life, and maybe he's tired of being pitiable, and thus he's being kinda a dick to compensate. But then we have no idea what led to his divorce.

unexpected item in bagging area (sarahel), Monday, 30 March 2009 22:40 (sixteen years ago)

maybe someone who still has their diary from when they were 10 can help answer that.

estela, Monday, 30 March 2009 22:41 (sixteen years ago)

xp estela: BJO's friend does remind me of what I was like at age 10.

unexpected item in bagging area (sarahel), Monday, 30 March 2009 22:45 (sixteen years ago)

Where did they end up knowing each other from?

just DO THE STANKY HOOS plain and steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 30 March 2009 22:46 (sixteen years ago)

yea, I gave him a mulligan for a while due to the rough patch. But the thing is...he isn't making the effort to improve things for himself. 5-6 months ago, I thought he was trying a lot harder than he is now. But then again...I can't exactly say I know what it feels like either.

They knew each other from church years earlier...not even close friends really, just acquaintainces in their youth.

III IV V (Bo Jackson Overdrive), Monday, 30 March 2009 22:49 (sixteen years ago)

My best friend in HS would try and appropriate every single guy I ever expressed interest in. Even the ones I was seriously dating, she'd call out of the blue late at night and stuff. They just thought she was a creepy psycho.

So did I after it didnt stop.

one art, please (Trayce), Monday, 30 March 2009 22:51 (sixteen years ago)

he sounds like a dbag thru and thru, i would "break up" with him

hello my name is peter francis geraci are you in debt (omar little), Monday, 30 March 2009 22:52 (sixteen years ago)

But then we have no idea what led to his divorce.

if i'm thinking of the right best friend there was a long dismal thread about it at the time that was replete with oh forgot to mentions, it was hard to condemn the fleeing bride.

estela, Monday, 30 March 2009 22:53 (sixteen years ago)

the bride cheated on him and then said it was his fault.

III IV V (Bo Jackson Overdrive), Monday, 30 March 2009 22:55 (sixteen years ago)

which happened...oh.....several months before the much less egregious error the friend made. Which she used as the reason for the split until it was finally revealed later that she had cheated.

III IV V (Bo Jackson Overdrive), Monday, 30 March 2009 22:56 (sixteen years ago)

xpost Yeah I thought where they knew each other from was going to be the twist...

Not the real Village People, Monday, 30 March 2009 22:56 (sixteen years ago)

if it were it'd make more sense.

III IV V (Bo Jackson Overdrive), Monday, 30 March 2009 22:57 (sixteen years ago)

alright, I feel better having said it. that has to count for something.

III IV V (Bo Jackson Overdrive), Monday, 30 March 2009 23:01 (sixteen years ago)

I think you have to decide how committed you are to helping your friend.

unexpected item in bagging area (sarahel), Monday, 30 March 2009 23:07 (sixteen years ago)

I met someone at a hobby of mine that I decided I was interested in,

this is the sentence that fascinates me

no one is ever ready for the STAKK ATTAKK (jjjusten), Monday, 30 March 2009 23:11 (sixteen years ago)

it's written wrong. he means he decided that he was interested in the someone, not in the hobby.

elan, Monday, 30 March 2009 23:15 (sixteen years ago)

needs a ,

elan, Monday, 30 March 2009 23:15 (sixteen years ago)

or 2

elan, Monday, 30 March 2009 23:15 (sixteen years ago)

What was the hobby?

Was it this? http://ponyplay.org/ponyplay.html

BADGES DON'T GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO WALTZ OFF WITH A BABY (HI DERE), Monday, 30 March 2009 23:17 (sixteen years ago)

So he's basically trying to piggyback onto your relationship, right? Like he's in no state for finding anyone on his own, so he'll just insinuate himself into your couple and mooch off of you. Even all the stuff about embarrassing stories sounds like his way of "claiming" you -- both letter her know that you're "his" friend and making it so her whole process of getting to know you somehow routes through him, so that he remains a part of things.

I guess hopefully that's just a function of being lonely and needy and clinging, and he hasn't taken the lesson from his marriage that you might as well steal other people's significant others instead of having them steal yours.

nabisco, Monday, 30 March 2009 23:20 (sixteen years ago)

Sometimes, after the same girl puts a cold metal bit put between your teeth for the eighth week running, some little look she gives really makes you notice her for the first time.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 30 March 2009 23:21 (sixteen years ago)

Put.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 30 March 2009 23:21 (sixteen years ago)

That's a weird word, when you look at it.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 30 March 2009 23:22 (sixteen years ago)

I mean, that "embarrassing stories" stuff seems like a really common thing people do when they want attention and one of their friends is getting it -- like laying claim to the person, stealing the attention and spotlight back, and sort of mildly demeaning the person and building themselves up, all the while acting like the whole thing is fond and they're great friends. (What I think these people don't realize is that they're still talking about you.)

nabisco, Monday, 30 March 2009 23:23 (sixteen years ago)

Oh, Dan. Dan, Dan, Dan.

i'm shy (Abbott), Monday, 30 March 2009 23:38 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.kormanworld.net/sca/pics/ian_sca_fight2.PNG

no one is ever ready for the STAKK ATTAKK (jjjusten), Monday, 30 March 2009 23:39 (sixteen years ago)

xp nabisco: I think it also is a way to demonstrate familiarity and intimacy - I think it only is "building themselves up" in the sense that is a) putting the story's subject down and b) demonstrating that familiarity. It's a way for the person to feel included and important. But maybe that's what you mean by "laying claim to the person," and we're basically saying the same thing.

unexpected item in bagging area (sarahel), Monday, 30 March 2009 23:39 (sixteen years ago)

basically exactly yes

nabisco, Monday, 30 March 2009 23:41 (sixteen years ago)

i feel like i missed some memo where i am supposed to start taking bo jackson overdrive threads seriously now or something

no one is ever ready for the STAKK ATTAKK (jjjusten), Monday, 30 March 2009 23:47 (sixteen years ago)

i still want to know the hobby that shall not be named tho

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/94/240997308_e84a817c05.jpg?v=0
????

no one is ever ready for the STAKK ATTAKK (jjjusten), Monday, 30 March 2009 23:51 (sixteen years ago)

http://static.squidoo.com/resize/squidoo_images/-1/draft_lens1839074module8095386photo_scrapbooking_8.jpg

unexpected item in bagging area (sarahel), Monday, 30 March 2009 23:55 (sixteen years ago)

Why do I never notice BJO until he has a "friend drama"?

I seldom pass on tea now. (libcrypt), Monday, 30 March 2009 23:59 (sixteen years ago)

love those dogs!
and the hobby idea!
but don't get Hand's metal bit post.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 31 March 2009 00:00 (sixteen years ago)

luck?

laying | (goole), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 00:00 (sixteen years ago)

the "metal bit" bit was a reference to pony play.

unexpected item in bagging area (sarahel), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 00:02 (sixteen years ago)

bjo needs better friends

hello my name is peter francis geraci are you in debt (omar little), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 00:09 (sixteen years ago)

what is pony play ?

the pinefox, Tuesday, 31 March 2009 00:10 (sixteen years ago)

What was the hobby?

Was it this? http://ponyplay.org/ponyplay.html

― BADGES DON'T GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO WALTZ OFF WITH A BABY (HI DERE), Monday, March 30, 2009 6:17 PM (53 minutes ago) Bookmark

laying | (goole), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 00:11 (sixteen years ago)

truthfully I only talk about the ones I have trouble with. consider me guilty as a newscaster.

well I appreciate everyone's insight. thx

III IV V (Bo Jackson Overdrive), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 21:41 (sixteen years ago)

I'm dead in the water now. My other friend said it best, shoulda stopped this before it became a problem.

The girl I'm dating muttered something the other day about how I should care more about my best friend...of course my side doesn't matter. It was tabled shortly after but it will come up again, I'm sure.

III IV V (Bo Jackson Overdrive), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 01:38 (sixteen years ago)


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