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I never understood why everyone hated on Tom Arnold so much.

I think Pat Buchanan and Rush Limbaugh occasionally say some right-on things.

Matt Drudge.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 12 February 2004 06:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Bukowski, obv.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 12 February 2004 06:57 (twenty-two years ago)

MES to thread pour moi

― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Thursday, 12 February 2004 07:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Roman Polanski

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 12 February 2004 07:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, and Jim Goad, natch

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 12 February 2004 07:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Oliver Stone. His movies are heavy-handed and about as subtle as getting raped with a plunger, but they're great. Plus, he's crazy (in a good way).

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 12 February 2004 07:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Stalin!

― Silly Sailor (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 12 February 2004 07:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Stalin? That's the first one even I'M offended by. Well, not really, nothing 'offends' me (only girls and sissies get 'offended'), but, gosh, sailor...Stalin was an asshole.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 12 February 2004 07:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, he shares in common with Buchanan that he tolerated Hitler at one point in his career.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 12 February 2004 07:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Courtney Love.

― Sean (Sean), Thursday, 12 February 2004 07:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Woody Allen?

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 12 February 2004 07:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe we should start a thread called "Perv Movie Directors". Excluding Stone. He's just crazy, not a perv.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 12 February 2004 07:16 (twenty-two years ago)

latebloomer - re: Pat - so did the Pope. and Catholics everywhere.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 12 February 2004 07:17 (twenty-two years ago)

An aren't Catholics great?...Maybe not.

― Jaromil (Jaromil), Thursday, 12 February 2004 07:34 (twenty-two years ago)

not roger adultery.

― John (jdahlem), Thursday, 12 February 2004 07:36 (twenty-two years ago)

mike tyson 4life

― TX, Thursday, 12 February 2004 07:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Just pagans, really. Materialistic, hateful pagans.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 12 February 2004 07:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh I am SO not controversial, in this zany mixed-up world of Calum and Anal Cunt!!

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 12 February 2004 07:39 (twenty-two years ago)

spike lee

― ipsofacto (ipsofacto), Thursday, 12 February 2004 08:04 (twenty-two years ago)

gygax!

― jack cole (jackcole), Thursday, 12 February 2004 08:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Al Sharpton

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 12 February 2004 08:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Now I know you're kidding

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 12 February 2004 08:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Courtney
Anton
Dr. Gene
Greg

― Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, 12 February 2004 08:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Al >>>>>>>> Drudge, the addict and the Nazi together.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 12 February 2004 08:17 (twenty-two years ago)

well....somewhat inaccurate pigeonholing, but touche, friend

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 12 February 2004 08:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Sharpton = Buchanan, really. Both idiots with some good oneliners.

― Sym (shmuel), Thursday, 12 February 2004 08:20 (twenty-two years ago)

But of course I still disagree - what do you get from Sharpton, besides a good laugh?

Drudge = genius

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 12 February 2004 08:21 (twenty-two years ago)

ah, how I miss being able to watch Dr. Gene Scott threaten his viewers with discontinuing his broadcast unless the faithful send him a boatload of cash now so that he can continue his lectures on electromagnetic mind control and the secrets of the pyramids.

― jack cole (jackcole), Thursday, 12 February 2004 08:23 (twenty-two years ago)

That's a very low standard of genius you're using there.
xpost

― Sym (shmuel), Thursday, 12 February 2004 08:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Why do you like Buchanan, anyways?

― Sym (shmuel), Thursday, 12 February 2004 08:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Bobby Knight

― earlnash, Thursday, 12 February 2004 08:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I appreciate that Buchanan - like Bush - means everything he's saying. He's sincere as fuck. His intentions are good. Can't say that about a lotta lefties and democrats.

and I don't get why people don't like Drudge - I guess he is kind of a pompous smartass, but he is as close to a revolutionary as we've seen these past 25 years.

Truth be told, I guess I just dig pariahs. My senior thesis was on Amiri Baraka.

But I don't dig pariahs enough to enjoy Sharpton on ANY level. Maybe I just remember the Tawana Brawley case a little too clearly

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 12 February 2004 08:31 (twenty-two years ago)

l.f. celine

― mike bott, Thursday, 12 February 2004 08:32 (twenty-two years ago)

"like bush"
Pat actually came off really well in Hunter S Thompson's book, and in another book I read about the '96 primary. I've heard him say some smart things about Israel, too. But y'know, holocaust denial. And what's so revolutionary or genius about drudge?

― Sym (shmuel), Thursday, 12 February 2004 08:36 (twenty-two years ago)

william bennett
paul brownell

― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 12 February 2004 08:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Nick Hornby

― Sym (shmuel), Thursday, 12 February 2004 08:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Drudge - changed the face of news on the internet. Is / was used as a source by top White House brass. The first (only?) reporter to ever be sued by the White House. Proudly wears a fedora. He's totally punk.

Holocaust denial = ill advised. BUT...raising the death toll by a million every ten years = also ill advised.

Didn't Chomsky rush to defend a holocaust denier?

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 12 February 2004 08:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm no fan of Chomsky either.
BUT...raising the death toll by a million every ten years = also ill advised.
What the fuck? I see bad things in the future of this thread.

― Sym (shmuel), Thursday, 12 February 2004 08:45 (twenty-two years ago)

For your edification re: Chomsky - http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0964589702/qid=1076575424//ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/103-1482991-5027042?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

Surely you admit that the details about the actual number of deaths are 'hazy' at best, no? I mean, it's kinda sorta established fact.

Besides, my ancestors were first to go - the gypsies got it as bad as anyone. Plus retards, gays, the elderly...i'm not going to insult your intelligence here. What bad things??

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 12 February 2004 08:49 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.aeroclubsocal.org/images/howard_hughes.jpg

Too bad about the obsessive-compulsive stuff though

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 12 February 2004 08:52 (twenty-two years ago)

That german guy that ate the other german guy's dick.

I also like G-Dub, don't agree w/his politics, but he makes me laugh.

― christhamrin (christhamrin), Thursday, 12 February 2004 08:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I appreciate him on the same level as Michael Madsen and Lee Marvin

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 12 February 2004 08:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Roger Adultery.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 12 February 2004 09:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Holocaust denial = ill advised. BUT...raising the death toll by a million every ten years = also ill advised.

Didn't Chomsky rush to defend a holocaust denier?

Chomsky wrote a foreword to a book he'd never read by someone who was seen as a holocaust denier. Read about in in Christopher Hitchens' 'Prepared for the Worst'. He did *not* 'rush to defend* a holocaust denier.

The death toll is *not* raised every ten years. Obviously more info comes out, &c -- but anyway, 'raised' by whom? When? Give examples.

― ENRQ (Enrique), Thursday, 12 February 2004 10:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Andrea Dworkin.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Thursday, 12 February 2004 17:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Rupert Murdoch.

May God (and my leftie mates) forgive me. I blame John Lanchester.

― Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 12 February 2004 17:49 (twenty-two years ago)

ditto on the drudge, dworkin, and courtney
also, michael moore (you can't say he doesnt know how to stir up entertainment)
nietzche
a few years ago it'd have been marilyn manson, but he's really not so controversial any more

― Felonious Drunk (Felcher), Thursday, 12 February 2004 17:51 (twenty-two years ago)

klaus kinski

― jody (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 12 February 2004 17:51 (twenty-two years ago)

lisa suckdog

and

jack cole

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 12 February 2004 17:54 (twenty-two years ago)

marilyn manson (NOT his music, though)
gg allin
jesse ventura (until he turned into a punk at wellstone's funeral)
martha stewart (us jersey polacks have to stand up for each other you know!)

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 12 February 2004 17:57 (twenty-two years ago)

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― My Huckleberry Friend (Horace Mann), Thursday, 12 February 2004 18:37 (twenty-two years ago)

wow. the Bin Laden answer took me a bit by surprise.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 12 February 2004 18:37 (twenty-two years ago)

The kid should pose for catalogues.

― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Thursday, 12 February 2004 18:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Geir Hongro

― I jest of course, Thursday, 12 February 2004 18:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Simon Trife

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Thursday, 12 February 2004 18:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't know if it would constitute "fan"dom, but I can't say I'm not thoroughly intrigued by Usama Bin Laden's erm "career", education (training), family history, etc.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 12 February 2004 18:44 (twenty-two years ago)

You can be intrigued by someone (as I am of the Mason family), but that does not equate with "fandom". I too find Bin Laden and Al-Zawahiri fascinating, but I'd be hardpressed to call myself a fan.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 12 February 2004 18:46 (twenty-two years ago)

michael irvin.
jerry jones.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 12 February 2004 18:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Hornby is great, but Michael Moore makes me want to break things.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 12 February 2004 18:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Roger Roberge of Mooncurser Records

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 12 February 2004 19:15 (twenty-two years ago)

*bemused, searches*

Ah...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 19:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Three years ago, Roberge tried to strike a bargain with a
90-year-old man from Maine for his records, but did not get a
good price. He says the man had 20,000 of them. He adds that
the old man is dead now and that when he next goes to Maine,
he will get them, he says, with a glint in his eye.

he he he

― My Huckleberry Friend (Horace Mann), Thursday, 12 February 2004 19:19 (twenty-two years ago)

that's it--he has captured the gleeful evvviiillll of the record collector!

― Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, 12 February 2004 19:20 (twenty-two years ago)

there's also mr. muslimgauze for you, mr. ned.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 12 February 2004 19:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Hm, I suppose. (He's always been astoundingly easy to separate love of music versus consideration of politics from.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 19:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Peter Sotos

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Thursday, 12 February 2004 19:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I regret reading the ones the moderators went back and altered to make me say different things.

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 12 February 2004 19:44 (twenty-two years ago)

The Shah of Iran

― Sym (shmuel), Thursday, 12 February 2004 20:15 (twenty-two years ago)

"latebloomer re: Pat - so did the Pope and Catholics everywhere"

Roger Adultery, why'd you bring that up with me? I'm well aware of that fact of history, but I'm not religious at all.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 12 February 2004 21:51 (twenty-two years ago)

eminem

― Viva La Sam (thatgirl), Thursday, 12 February 2004 21:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Fran Healey.

― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Thursday, 12 February 2004 21:56 (twenty-two years ago)

paleos hate Catholics, FYI. I'm sure some poor people in Mexico, the US, wherever got the Nazi memo.

― Kerry (dymaxia), Thursday, 12 February 2004 21:57 (twenty-two years ago)

the ETA (eusakadi ta askatasuna)

― mike bott, Thursday, 12 February 2004 22:05 (twenty-two years ago)

dave q

― fcussen (Burger), Thursday, 12 February 2004 22:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Roger Adultery is Jonah Goldberg and I claim my $5

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 12 February 2004 23:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Hitler, fuck it

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 12 February 2004 23:36 (twenty-two years ago)

"And next in the comedy stylings of Tombot: How to freak out the ILX massive...."

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Thursday, 12 February 2004 23:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Charlton Heston (on screen at least).

― David Beckhouse (David Beckhouse), Thursday, 12 February 2004 23:59 (twenty-two years ago)

well, we had someone upthread say stalin ... herr schickelgruber was inevitable.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 13 February 2004 00:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Gunthard Von Hagens - the guy who makes the plastinized flayed corpses. I find the idea fascinating and would love to see some, and I really dont understand why people are so up in arms over what he does.

...what?

― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 13 February 2004 00:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I like Charlton Heston (as an actor) as well.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 13 February 2004 00:22 (twenty-two years ago)

HAha Tom, the best part of that is that because it's you, everyone's all "Yeah, okay whatever", whereas if (say) Pinkpanther had busted out with that, people would have been all "HOLY SHIT".

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 13 February 2004 00:23 (twenty-two years ago)

mostly ones already mentioned:
Howard Stern
Christopher Hitchens
Trotsky
Pat Buchanan
Vincent Gallo

― ryan (ryan), Friday, 13 February 2004 00:51 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.fantastictoys.hpg.ig.com.br/aquaman.jpg

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 13 February 2004 01:09 (twenty-two years ago)

daf marquis de sade for his political views as hinted in like doom patrol and Marat/Sade -- or The Persecution and Assassination of Jean-Paul Marat as Performed by the Inmates of the Asylum of Charenton under the Direction of Monsieur de Sade

― Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Friday, 13 February 2004 01:48 (twenty-two years ago)

David Elleray

― pete s, Friday, 13 February 2004 01:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I second Howard Hughes, and for some reson I've suddenly started to find Richard Nixon interesting, or at least more interesting than usual.

― Doobie Keebler (Charles McCain), Friday, 13 February 2004 02:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Jess Harvell.

― Viva La Sam (thatgirl), Friday, 13 February 2004 03:04 (twenty-two years ago)

LBJ

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 13 February 2004 03:05 (twenty-two years ago)

ethan padgett

― Viva La Sam (thatgirl), Friday, 13 February 2004 03:07 (twenty-two years ago)

McCarthy! I share a bithday with him.

― Sym (shmuel), Friday, 13 February 2004 04:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Bobby Fischer

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 13 February 2004 05:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Phil Spector

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 13 February 2004 05:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Thomas Jefferson

― jim wentworth (wench), Friday, 13 February 2004 05:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Ghengis Khan

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 13 February 2004 05:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I knew a guy in high school who used to sign himself up to mailing lists under the name Genghis Khan. he got some pretty funny spam.

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 13 February 2004 05:37 (twenty-two years ago)

pete s, how is Tony Slattery "controversial"? Unless you mean that he's "controversial" because so many people have so many differing opinions about him that it's almost a case of "you either love him or you hate him" -- there's no middle ground there. If indeed that does qualify as "controversial", then yes, I can throw in my little Tony Slattery fanhood into the "controversial" mix as well.

― Mellow Dee (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 13 February 2004 06:49 (twenty-two years ago)

In recent months I have become increasingly fond of my fellow countrymen Mr. John Magnier and Mr. J.P. McManus

― Joe Kay (feethurt), Friday, 13 February 2004 10:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Dee - He's not controversial, but he's so widely-reviled that liking him is controversial.

I think if pinkpanther posted anything on this thread, people would be amazed.

No-one's said Momus?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 13 February 2004 10:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Momus.

The Pinefox.

Barry Lasagne.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 13 February 2004 11:01 (twenty-two years ago)

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