TNR's Idiocy Watch pisses me off.

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It's The New Republic's regularly updated collection of "the dumb and outrageous things being said and written about America and the terrorists." It seems readymade for netlore -- expect it at an in-box near you.

Now, sure, IL* has seen its share of venom over the jaw-droppingingly assholic things everybody from Ann Coulter to Robert Altman have offered the public since 9/11. But when dumb quotes are simply presented without context or commentary, apart from the implication that these thoughts for some reason do not meet the approval of the editors of TNR, the whole project gives off the slight stench of chicken shit. The column seeks to cut off debate, and lazily circumscribe the parameters of what's reasonable and unreasonable when we talk about terrorism and the war. Surely though, stupid ideas are often worth examining, if only to show just why they're so stupid, or dangerous, or seductive to those who might not know any better.

Michael Daddino, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Absolutely, I can imagine 150 years ago them talking about the abolishment of slavery or woman's suffrage saying jeez what idiots these people are.

Billy Dods, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The New Republic's owner, Marty Peretz, is an "Israel Right or Wrong" type. Which means that he's one of the "if you criticize Israel at all, no matter how justified and/or measured such criticism might be, you are ipso facto an anti-Semite" brigade, and being Jewish and/or Israeli yourself doesn't spare you (in that case, Mr. Peretz says you're a "self-hating Jew"). The smears the magazine has perpetrated against, to name just a few, Edward Said, Gore Vidal, and Noam Chomsky are some of the most sickening, vindictive and pathological things printed in any magazine in recent memory. Not that any of the aforementioned, or their specific comments on Israel, are above criticism, but TNR's style of smashmouth and character assassination is out-of-bounds. Look at it like that, and the "Idiocy Watch" makes perfect sense.

A shame really, because aside from its fawning coverage of Israel and silliness like "Idiocy Watch," TNR also prints a lot of excellent and thoughtful articles (although some are a little too neoconservative for my tastes).

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Check out the quote from Charlie Daniels! Bet that devil won't go anywhere near Georgia now! Also, Chomsky's a one-joke comedian, he could do with a little less reverence.

dave q, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The inclusion of the Foner and Jameson quotes is surely the most egregious, especially given that putting Jameson on an "idiocy watch" only validates exactly what he's saying.

Nitsuh, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I can't figure out what was idiotic about 90% of those comments. They seem randomly chosen. Why is it idiotic to have a personal response to 9/11? Why is it idiotic for Charlie Daniels to be religious?

Kris, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I just said 'check out' Daniels' comments. No putdown meant. Just thought it would be of interest to some ILM country-rock fans, is all.

dave q, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

nineteen years pass...

The New Republic being good has been very confusing for the last year or two, guess that's no longer an issue.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Sunday, 28 March 2021 02:05 (four years ago)

real bummer, i bought a subscription to the paper magazine a few months ago.

JoeStork, Sunday, 28 March 2021 04:04 (four years ago)

Me too. Has there been any more reporting besides the Defector article?

jaymc, Sunday, 28 March 2021 04:38 (four years ago)

What’s going on?

akm, Sunday, 28 March 2021 06:30 (four years ago)

New schmuck coming in:

what if you're a congressional aide who likes TNR the way it is now? https://t.co/zTbF1v2Ghk pic.twitter.com/ITd5HMNCjf

— Lori Kearns (@lori_kearns) March 26, 2021

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Sunday, 28 March 2021 07:34 (four years ago)

five months pass...

Ok then

In a very genuine sense, Nick Kristof never really left his hometown of Yamhill, Oregon. He and his wife have regularly returned to the family farm, which produces wine grapes and cider apples. https://t.co/3bXdWnNxUs

— The New Republic (@newrepublic) September 16, 2021

JoeStork, Thursday, 16 September 2021 15:29 (four years ago)

really glad I got that subscription

New: Nick Kristof is reaching out to big-name Democratic advisers to guide an Oregon gov run

Coordinating the effort is Carol Butler, whose partner, The New Republic publisher Win McCormack, is one of the state’s biggest donors

w/ ⁦@ZachMontellarohttps://t.co/CX1spt4Jmd

— Christopher Cadelago (@ccadelago) September 3, 2021

JoeStork, Thursday, 16 September 2021 15:31 (four years ago)

Solid Tucker Carlson piece this issue, though!

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 September 2021 15:36 (four years ago)


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