ILX is an attack on the working class

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I've been abused since I started posting here by Harvard grads and middle class poofs. It's shit and you all deserve a kicking.

― Nutty Nigel (Nutty Nigel), Friday, 13 February 2004 12:03 (twenty-two years ago)

It's not my fault I'm working class and like my ciggies and my birds, you know what I mean?

― Nutty Nigel (Nutty Nigel), Friday, 13 February 2004 12:05 (twenty-two years ago)

.. not terribly good at impressions?

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 13 February 2004 12:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I like my ciggies and my chickens and doves

― Silly Sailor (Andrew Thames), Friday, 13 February 2004 12:08 (twenty-two years ago)

You are all privilged scabby pricks. Try being a slaughterhouse worker like me, balancing a smack habit and still trying to get the birds and all that and hiding it from yer wife cos her dad, Mental Mick, is a fucking cunt with a gun. It's not easy right?

― Nutty Nigel (Nutty Nigel), Friday, 13 February 2004 12:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Marcello, this time you've gone too far.

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 13 February 2004 12:24 (twenty-two years ago)

heehee

― Silly Sailor (Andrew Thames), Friday, 13 February 2004 12:25 (twenty-two years ago)

lol

― mullygrubber (gaz), Friday, 13 February 2004 12:25 (twenty-two years ago)

wats with this crazy site?! no one eva seems to talk to u! sum1 please talk to me!!

― gaol clichy (clichy), Friday, 13 February 2004 12:25 (twenty-two years ago)

eh?

― Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 13 February 2004 12:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, with this sub-Viz japery you're spoiling us, Ambassador

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 13 February 2004 12:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Hi Gaol how is shit

― Silly Sailor (Andrew Thames), Friday, 13 February 2004 12:27 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, at last, i have a friend! shit is fine! hows shit 4 u?!

― gaol clichy (clichy), Friday, 13 February 2004 12:28 (twenty-two years ago)

whether NN is either Marcello or C*lum, either way it's probably the lamest trolling we've had on the boards. Poor by either's standards.

― chris (chris), Friday, 13 February 2004 12:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Same old shit, Gaol. Right now I think I'll have a cigarette. I am listening to a Bill Direen record, it's good.

― Silly Sailor (Andrew Thames), Friday, 13 February 2004 12:29 (twenty-two years ago)

ilx=trolling testing site

― Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 13 February 2004 12:33 (twenty-two years ago)

rite now im in college, who the hell is bill direen?!

― gaol clichy (clichy), Friday, 13 February 2004 12:33 (twenty-two years ago)

He's a BITCHIN kinda weird writer who used to and still sometimes does and should ALWAYS do music, writing sucks comp to music. And this is the most recent record of his I know of, "Human Kindness", it features many great tracks.

― Silly Sailor (Andrew Thames), Friday, 13 February 2004 12:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey, Mr. NN! I'm from a working class family, don't ruin our good name with your silly imitations!

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 13 February 2004 12:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Gaol, perhaps this place isn't for you. First tip - write in PROPER WORDS.

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 13 February 2004 12:37 (twenty-two years ago)

i bet bill direen is fantastic!!

― gaol clichy (clichy), Friday, 13 February 2004 12:39 (twenty-two years ago)

i was being sarcastic by the way!!! just for intrests sake, are you american?!

― gaol clichy (clichy), Friday, 13 February 2004 12:44 (twenty-two years ago)

No! I am from NEW ZEALAND where the TANIWHA roams free and takes over major roadway works

― Silly Sailor (Andrew Thames), Friday, 13 February 2004 12:46 (twenty-two years ago)

i think gaol was asking markelby not silly sailor?

― RTG (RTG), Friday, 13 February 2004 12:49 (twenty-two years ago)

No, I'm British, I'm in a bad mood, and I have no patience with people who speak in juvenile language and say things like "at last, I have a friend!"

Moderator, please delete me ILE.

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 13 February 2004 12:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I am reasonably certain that neither Chris nor Markelby are a) Marcello or b) Calum. However, I am beginning to suspect that everyone else on this thread is.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 13 February 2004 12:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Of course, but the punctum is that you yourself are these two more than anyone else.

― ENRQ (Enrique), Friday, 13 February 2004 12:53 (twenty-two years ago)

C&M or M&C?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 13 February 2004 12:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Apparently AC/DC.

― Jimmy the Saints, Friday, 13 February 2004 12:59 (twenty-two years ago)

< j/k>

Jesus, is it me or is today really head-in-the-oven stuff?

― ENRQ (Enrique), Friday, 13 February 2004 13:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm with you En.

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 13 February 2004 13:03 (twenty-two years ago)

"Nutty Nigel" is Calum.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 13 February 2004 13:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I OPPRESS YOU WITH GUNS

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 13 February 2004 13:34 (twenty-two years ago)

to markleboy, i dont like people who listen to bill ridel!

― gaol clichy (clichy), Friday, 13 February 2004 13:35 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.synergizedsolutions.com/simpsons/pictures/others/rodtoddflanders.gif
"Lies make baby Jesus cry"

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Friday, 13 February 2004 13:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Why do you think I lie so much.

Baby Jesus was a baby! Of course he cried.

― Pete (Pete), Friday, 13 February 2004 14:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe he was swaddled so tightly he couldn't cry for shit.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 13 February 2004 14:04 (twenty-two years ago)

i still think we should treat Nutty Nigel as a drifting bare-knuckle fighter, one who's had illicit dealings with Sondra Locke.

― Kingfish Beatbox Botox Funktion (Kingfish), Friday, 13 February 2004 14:25 (twenty-two years ago)

really? excellent, I'd take him no problem.

― chris (chris), Friday, 13 February 2004 14:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I think we should ignore him. I don't understand why people find this so difficult.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 13 February 2004 14:26 (twenty-two years ago)

ignore who?

― Vicky (Vicky), Friday, 13 February 2004 14:28 (twenty-two years ago)

it's so hard to ignore a buzzing blue-bottle who won't let you have your cake and eat it

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 13 February 2004 14:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey, Mr. NN! I'm from a working class family, don't ruin our good name with your silly imitations!

Imitations? I've figured out that Nutty Nigel is really my dad!

― Kerry (dymaxia), Friday, 13 February 2004 14:49 (twenty-two years ago)

You are aware that in America "Nigel" is an extremely posh name? We thought you were ONE OF US! ONE OF US! ONE OF US!

― j.lu (j.lu), Friday, 13 February 2004 15:15 (twenty-two years ago)

it's extremely posh in the UK as well j lu - but this iron doesn't seem to be plugged in

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 13 February 2004 15:22 (twenty-two years ago)

two years pass...

CHORTLE

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:03 (nineteen years ago)

delete

― vita susicivus (blueski), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

Dog Latin was right, we need to go back to these days.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

"a fucking cunt with a gun"

― Hell Hath No Furry (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:08 (nineteen years ago)

calum is a fan of shameless?

― jimbo (electricsound), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:09 (nineteen years ago)

In retrospect it was kinda cute how all of Calum's pseudonyms were so easy to spot, he was like the cartoon villain who thinks a monocle is an apt disguise.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

the best thing is that calums now a published author

― acrobat (elwisty), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

WHY DON'T Y'FUCKIN' MARRY HIM THEN

― Michael Philip Philip Philip Philip Annoyman (Ferg), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

let future generations learn from our grievous mistakes

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

. . . and hence officially a better person than the lot of us!

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

In fairness he's a published author in a field no well-adjusted person could possibly give a shit about.

I've seen an interview he did with Uwe Boll.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

he wouldn't fuck with the likes of me. he's out of my leauge, man.

xpost

― acrobat (elwisty), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

i mean, seriously it is an attack on working ~~class~~: how much have we worked since posting on ilx?

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1818500/

― vita susicivus (blueski), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

Actor - filmography

1. The Raven (2006) (V) .... Priest #2

― PRKLTR (flezaffe), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:14 (nineteen years ago)

He's making a film with Jason Connery!

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

You do realise that when Louis Jagger is elected as an MEP for UKIP in three years time we're gonna be having exactly the same thread revivals?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

This is his book right? http://www.midmar.com/exploitation.html

(the magazines look better frankly)

― Hell Hath No Furry (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

In fairness he's a published author in a field no well-adjusted person could possibly give a shit about.

All music critic ILxors to thread.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

nutty nigel - author, dream weaver, visionary, plus actor.

― PRKLTR (flezaffe), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.midmar.com/books/mindsoffear.jpg

ok his book does look quite rubbish

― acrobat (elwisty), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS

― vita susicivus (blueski), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

nutty nigel - author, dream weaver, visionary, plus actor.
-- PRKLTR (fffffezaff...), January 31st, 2007.

haha!

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:22 (nineteen years ago)

In retrospect it was kinda cute how all of Calum's pseudonyms were so easy to spot

Errrrrrrrrrr, I think that was pretty much the whole point

― Tom D. (Dada), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

That was exactly what I meant.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

Oh right, sorry!

― Tom D. (Dada), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

he should have had a character called tricky tuomas

― jimbo (electricsound), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

Touchy-Feely Tuomas

― Tom D. (Dada), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

Testosterony Tuomas

― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

The Funny Fin

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

I'll go with published author Mark Sinker's suggestion.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

Tricky Tuomas, the Funny Fin would be a good music hall act.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

http://members.aol.com/Lahbritishtours/maxmiller.jpg

"'ere, missus, I says I wouldn't normally let her stick her finger in my anus, but I was wearing my PVC apron so it seemed a good idea. I said it seemed a good idea!"

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

I was thinking more along the lines of an eccentric dancer

― Tom D. (Dada), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

Actor - filmography

1. The Raven (2006) (V) .... Priest #2

3.0/10 (11 votes)

― onimo (onimo), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

at least we can solve the "centre parting vs bowl cut" debate

― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

four months pass...

poll!

― 597, Saturday, 16 June 2007 13:43 (eighteen years ago)

calum got to interview bruce campbell, the bastard

― TOMBOT, Saturday, 16 June 2007 17:57 (eighteen years ago)

six months pass...

Cultural elite does not exist, academics claim
By Andy McSmith
Published: 20 December 2007
The "cultural elite" brought up on opera and the higher arts, which supposedly turns up its nose at anything as vulgar as a pop song or mainstream television, does not exist, according to research published by Oxford University academics.

Researchers have used data from the UK and six other countries to test a theory that people born to posh families absorb only "high culture" while "popular" or "mass" culture is strictly for those from ordinary to humble beginnings.

They found that in truth Billy Elliott – the fictional working-class boy from a northern mining village with a passion for ballet – is not the social freak he might seem to be. Equally, someone with an impressive ancestry and blue blood coursing through his veins is not necessarily any more cultured than the rest of us.

"We find little evidence for the existence of a cultural elite who would consume 'high' culture while shunning more 'popular' cultural forms," the two Oxford academics said, when their results were published yesterday. "There are certain individuals who fit this description, but they are too few in number to figure in any survey-based analysis."

Tak Wing Chan, from Oxford's sociology department, and John Goldthorpe, of Nuffield College, Oxford, have spent years trying to analyse whether "social status" still exists in Britain, and how it operates.

For this exercise, funded by the Economic and Social Research Council, they divided people into four groups – univores, who only like popular culture; omnivores, who like everything from opera to soap opera; paucivores, who absorb very little culture; and inactives, who absorb practically none.

People's education, income and social class were all taken into account but this study, unlike others of its kind, clearly differentiated between "class" and "status". An out-of-work aristocrat has class, without status, while there are bright, ambitious people from poor backgrounds who have "status" but not "class".

In previous studies they have concluded that status is now determined more by the work someone does than by their birth or their wealth. Office workers consider that they have a higher status than manual workers; among office workers, professionals think themselves a cut above works managers, and so on.

The newspaper a person chooses, and the forms of entertainment that person enjoys are all tied up with ideas about social status. That does not mean that professionals in elite jobs restrict themselves to "elite" arts, but it does mean that the opera houses and specialist art galleries are likely to be filled with people who have "status".

Class, as opposed to status, does not seem to have much effect on cultural tastes. "A substantial minority of members of the most advantaged social groups are univores or inactives," the researchers found.

Doctor Chan said: "Our work shows it's education and social status, not social class that predict cultural consumption in the UK, and broadly comparable results were obtained from other countries in our project too."

Data from the UK, Chile, France, Hungary, Israel, the Netherlands and the US was analysed by 13 researchers during the study.

Which are you?

Univores

If you will go to the cinema, but not the theatre, you are a consumer of popular culture only. Two thirds of the population are in this category.

Omnivores

Will try anything on offer. Most have jobs that give them confidence, but could be from any social background.

Paucivores

People who consume a 'limited' range of cultural activities. Enjoy some form of music, film or television but not art galleries.

Inactives

These people access nothing at all – people who would never go into an art gallery or stop to examine a sculpture.

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 20 December 2007 10:54 (eighteen years ago)

People's education, income and social class were all taken into account but this study, unlike others of its kind, clearly differentiated between "class" and "status".

NICE SAVE

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 20 December 2007 10:54 (eighteen years ago)

Nutty Nigel, paucivore.

― The blue-green world is drenched with horse gore, Thursday, 20 December 2007 10:56 (eighteen years ago)

I'm shock to find out that some posh people are a bit thick.

― The blue-green world is drenched with horse gore, Thursday, 20 December 2007 10:57 (eighteen years ago)

Thought this was gonna be bumped with a Tracer Hand zing

― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 20 December 2007 11:45 (eighteen years ago)

paucivore == consumes more dead oppossums than art

― Aimless, Thursday, 20 December 2007 18:11 (eighteen years ago)

haha, my own memory of academia (i.e., the english/comp. lit. department at a state university) is that those "cultural elites" take popular culture WAY more seriously than the proles do.

― Eisbaer, Thursday, 20 December 2007 18:16 (eighteen years ago)

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/attack.jpg

― gabbneb, Thursday, 20 December 2007 18:16 (eighteen years ago)

"A substantial minority of members of the most advantaged social groups are univores or inactives," the researchers found.

YOU DON'T SAY

― gabbneb, Thursday, 20 December 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

those "cultural elites" take popular culture WAY more seriously than the proles do.

-- Eisbaer, Thursday, December 20, 2007 6:16 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

WELCOME TO OLD ILX

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 20 December 2007 18:20 (eighteen years ago)

Joyce takes the piss out of this in Ulysses, I'm pretty sure the noble tradition of gatekeeping folk culture goes a good way further back than that.

― The blue-green world is drenched with horse gore, Thursday, 20 December 2007 18:22 (eighteen years ago)

cultural elites deny existence of cultural elites

― latebloomer, Thursday, 20 December 2007 18:25 (eighteen years ago)

it's a conspiracy

― latebloomer, Thursday, 20 December 2007 18:25 (eighteen years ago)

I AM A CULTURAL ELITE; I HAVE BETTER TASTE THAN YOU.

― gabbneb, Thursday, 20 December 2007 18:57 (eighteen years ago)

calum and louis came along in the wrong order

― blueski, Thursday, 20 December 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

Born too late.

― Nicole, Thursday, 20 December 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

lol at marcello gone too far

― roxymuzak, Thursday, 20 December 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

RIP

― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 20 December 2007 22:26 (eighteen years ago)

You do realise that when LJ is elected as an MEP for UKIP in three years time we're gonna be having exactly the same thread revivals?

-- Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:15 (10 months ago) Bookmark Link

zing

just been reading a load of avant-garde poetry and jeff nuttall invective in the british library, no better way to feel incredibly left-wing

― Just got offed, Thursday, 20 December 2007 22:27 (eighteen years ago)

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