The Coming Bush Scandal

I wish people would recognize that Bush is already enough of a scandal, but whatever gets him removed from office.

x-post: Yeah, I could see the right kind of racial incident being that powerful as well.

Maybe some racist stuff, not inconceivable, but the Klan would be a huge leap.

(and I don't for a moment think he's a racist)

Back in 2000, one of the conspiracy theories that floated briefly about Bush's past with the National Guard was about him using his F-102 to ferry drugs from Orlando to Houston. The rumor has surfaced again on Rense, which will post almost any crazy theory anyone can conceive, but it's more substantial than that. Check out this excerpt from this Washington Post piece.

Bush called Robert H. Gow, a Yale man who had roomed with the senior Bush's cousin Ray in college and who had been an executive at the senior Bush's Zapata Off-Shore Co. In 1969, Gow left Zapata and started Stratford of Texas, a Houston-based agricultural company with diverse interests: from cattle to chickens to indoor, non-blooming tropical plants.

"We weren't looking for someone, but I thought this would be a talented guy we should hire, and he was available," Gow said. In early 1971, Gow gave Bush a job as a management trainee. He was required to wear a coat and tie and dispatched around the country and even to Central America, looking for plant nurseries that Stratford might acquire. The newly buttoned-down businessman also moved into a garage apartment that he shared with Ensenat off Houston's North Boulevard, an old 1920s neighborhood close to downtown.

"We traveled to all kinds of peculiar places, like Apopka, Florida, which was named the foliage capital of the world," said Peter C. Knudtzon, another Zapata alumnus who was Stratford's executive vice president and Bush's immediate boss.

Once or twice a month, Bush would announce that he had flight duty and off he would go, sometimes taking his F-102 from Houston to Orlando and back. "It was really quite amazing," Knudtzon said. "Here was this young guy making acquisitions of tropical plants and then up and leaving to fly fighter planes."

Zapata Offshore has been accused of having deep CIA connections for decades. I find it very odd that Bush would use a jet fighter to ferry tropical plants. One of the only things that small that would be worth ferrying would be orchids. (Dubya! The Original Orchid Thief!) However, knowing the rumors about Bush's longtime cocaine abuse, and the CIA's covert operations in ferrying drugs from Central America to fund their secret wars down there, it's just as likely to be drugs. It's also been rumored that Bush refused to take his flight physical later because it would show that his drug use. That's possibly why only the dental records have been released, as any other records would reveal too much.

It's pretty irresponsible to insist that there's any real proof of Dubya being a drugrunner, but Drudge seems willing to post anything anyone whispers about Democrats. Why not Bush's potential drugrunning?

But if any president has some dirt on him, it HAS to be this one. He seems so short term, he lacks foresight... Whatever it is, I hope they save it till September where it can do some real damage.

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hey, any port in a storm.

If that's the case, McClellan would defend it by saying it was the same disease that Alexander the Great and Julius Caesar suffered from (as opposed to, I dunno, something calm and low-key).

It might work with ILM voters if he mentioned Ian Curtis.

I give up. Who needs a scandal when he is a walking disgrace.

Bush supporters who are fucking freaks.

well, unless he was drooling over having his baby face for dinner.

or snorting coke off it.

nothing, no matter HOW freakish or horrible or wrong, will stop those who love dubya from continuing to love him. they're just as freaky as he is.

IS?

There are people much older than us who are going to believe in the things they do and ally themselves with the causes and parties they do because that's "the right thing to do" and it's what they've done all along. I don't believe in that line of thinking (right now), but many people we love do.

To me, it's the same camp as the people who think all Republicans are freaks. Just substitute the party names.

I can't respect anyone who idolizes or cherishes Ronald Reagan, I just can't. Just like I can't respect anyone who would defend Pinochet, Pol Pot, Franco, on down the list.

Dude, that's the definition of what it MEANS to be an American to many. Not mine. Not yours. But definitely many more than us. Same goes with some other countries and religions too, believe it or not. That's (unfortunately for you, me, and probably others on this list) a fact of life.

and are willing to blind themselves to the actions of the United States over the last half-century.

Willing to? Maybe a few. But, come on.

Blind? quite possibly.. especially given my anxiety and anger over the development of mass media in the past decade, and what they report and don't report, and who influences that.

But "willing to be blind"? I assume you meant a better phrasing than that.

because he Found Jesus.

jesus-freakism = last refuge of scoundrels.

Why are German civilians worth less than American civilians? Because they were born under the wrong government? Because they didn't get gassed before we could kill them?

Your reasoning is a defense of Bush's international conduct. Our civilians died, we were attacked, we get to do whatever the fuck we want without question. That's the cycle that created 9/11 and al-Qaeda in the first place.

And Begs, I don't disagree with you about Israel and Palestine. But no amount of horrors committed by the Israelis makes it OK to kill innocent people. All that means is that more innocent Palestinians will die tomorrow.
(putting off leaving so I can argue - baaaad)

and if yer too fucking STUPID to distinguish between Hitler and Saddam Hussein, or b/w germans who would've GLADLY thrown YOU into an oven and the iraqis who didn't do anything to anyone, then YOU are the one who is more like dubya than me. and i'm THROUGH with you.

Eisbar, keeeeeep digging. Dig dig dig dig dig it.

And that has to cut both ways. If it was OK to kill innocent Germans, then it was OK for the Germans to kill innocent Poles, and it was OK for al-Qaeda to kill innocent Americans, because they feel they have been wronged, and it's OK for Hizbollah to kill innocent Israelis and it's OK for the IDF to kill innocent Palestinians.

Either taking innocent life is acceptable, or it's unacceptable.
I say it's unacceptable. Whether we're doing it or "they" are doing it.

and if yer too fucking STUPID to distinguish between Hitler and Saddam Hussein, or b/w germans who would've GLADLY thrown YOU into an oven and the iraqis who didn't do anything to anyone, then YOU are the one who is more like dubya than me. and i'm THROUGH with you.
Funny, I didn't mention Saddam or Hitler, at all. I talked about was killing innocent people.

As for the Iraqis vs. Germans - you really think that the Arab population was upset about the oppression of the Kurds, based on their current cooperation?

I'm still waiting for your explanation - why was it OK to kill German civilians, but not OK to kill Polish civilians or American civilians?

Are Poles and Americans God's people?

Had you brothers who were maimed by Saddam Hussein's regime, as your family were sent to the gulags, would you not be so anti-Iraq by that same token?

In exactly the same way you speak against "SYMPATHY when the countrymen of the [Germans] who were responsible for this get one of their stupid cities bombed".

this is going to be nasty

(Wow, Stuart really HAS flown the coop, hasn't he? He hasn't posted in two weeks!)

no shit!

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:-(

maybe they can find them in the near east studies department of bob jones university!

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