HADDOCK ANYONE?!?!?!

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My latest craze....BAKED HADDOCK! I WANT IT IN MY MOUTH!!! YUMMY! Anyon e care to add?

― Mike Hanle y, Tuesday, 3 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

You don't get threads like that on Y2K Timebomb, ha!

― Tom, Tuesday, 3 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah, I like that a lot. It's my favorite actual fish. Swordfish is good, but it has too much mercury in it, plus not a whole lot of flavor. There's another one that's like haddock but it's not that I used to get all the time fresh from the fish guy in big long $9 strips. That was good, whatever it was. Lemon juice, cumin, cracked pepper and rice with onions, peppers and tomatoes. Yum.

― Nude Spock, Tuesday, 3 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Classic: Captain Haddock. "Great blistering barnacles" etc etc

― Andrew L, Tuesday, 3 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

FLOUNDER! That's what it was. I like flounder andhaddock.

― Nude Spock, Tuesday, 3 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Sorry, not for me, I'm a vegetarian. Unless it's soya-based textured vegetable protein imitation haddock.

― Graham, Tuesday, 3 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I once invented the name of a vegetarian fish substitute..... it is to be called QUISH! However I need a scientist or something to invent the actual product.

― Emma, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Calling a fish substitute something that sounds a bit like 'quim' is surely a bad idea. I won't be hiring you for my branding consultancy, Emma.

― Tom, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Now I am wondering: pain-and-suffering vegetarian, health-vegetarian, or could-better-feed-world-without-wasting-resouces-on-animal-flesh vegetarian? Fish seems by far the least offensive flesh food on all counts.

― Josh, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Tom, I am sure a great many highly successful products have names with 3 letters in common with outdated slang words for female genitalia. In fact That's Life was almost solely based on this fact.

And the fish thing is from the same camp of misogyny that says women must wear panty liners at all times because otherwise they would stink. I am now going to start a rival feminist branding consultancy, so there.

― Emma, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Emma you stink, wear some panty liners. New knickers in no time (wrong thread I know but couldn't resist it).

I think I might have invented Quish. That said I think I also may have also conceived of its main flavouring which made it taste and smell so fishy - which is an avenue best not travelled.

That said vegetarians, do you / would you eat people if they killed themselves for this very purpose (this is a question for ethical vegetarians I guess). And would it be okay for you to eat someone in a permenant vegetive state?

― Pete, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Pete how DARE you claim IPR for my great idea!!!!

And I am not the one who does not bath/shower daily, especially in this heat you stinky git.

― Emma, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'll see you in court. I think I will stand a better chance after all my other great ideas. Remember the Cheese Boost and the Cheese Aero?

― Pete, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I am allergic to fish. I can't eat seafood, even if I wasn't vegetarian. Even when I was a kid, I couldn't stand the taste of fish, I think probably because I had already learned to associate it with being meningie sick.

― masonic boom, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I was just discovering fish when I went veggie. I'd spent my childhood hating it, then discovered tuna and cottage cheese, then full blown actual fish and was going through this new taste explosion when the vegetarian thing happened.

Regarding the suicide / vegetative state question - why on earth are you asking veggies this? Surely they'd be LESS likely to eat another person than the meaties out there? I wouldn't eat haddock and I wouldn't eat mentally-ill person, but I can't understand why you meaties wouldn't eat fresh roadkill longpig human, for example. What's the difference in your eyes - particularly if you're not religious?

Taking your point on board though: if I ever give up vegetarianism I'll definitely consider weaker people fair game.

― chris, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm a misanthrope. I'd eat people before I'd eat animals.

― masonic boom, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The reason I was asking Veggies is that I would have no compunction eating another person in those situations. Unfortunately whilst coming up with this interesting moral conundrum I also thought of the joke regarding the persistent vegetative state. Ooops.

― Pete, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I used to be a full-on veggie but now I'm a fish and chipocrite so I love Haddock, mmm, smoked haddock flaked and mixed in with potatos, cream and a few sliced onions to make a lovely pommes dauphinnoise, lovely. But anyway before I reverted to fish I did used to eat the most ridiculous of all veggie substitutes - Fishless fishcakes!! I can't remember who made them but they were lovely and did taste remarkably fishy.

As for eating humans, I always wondered what the vegetarian response would be to the placenta pate I once saw Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall make on a tv programme once.

― cabbage, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The people he made that pate for would have happily eaten the baby it came from as main course, I think: they were WEIRD!

[I know the placenta doesn't come "from" the baby]

― mark s, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Babies = cannibals veal. Hmmm.

― Pete, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I hate the way vegetarians are always asked to rationalise their heresy the moment they mention it, and the concept of trying to find logic behind any morals just seems odd.

In answer to your question: I'll start with the reason I became one. I was discussing with someone (who I didn't like) that them enjoying hunting was a bit sick, and basically I lost the argument because I was just as bad for not being a vegie. But I don't think that's the reason I still am one. It just seems to make more sense, like avoiding the whole hypocrisy of not eating dog; and eating flesh and seeing shrinkwrapped animal carcusses in the supermarket now strikes as me as really vile and barbaric. I know we're probably not having any effect on animal suffering and aren't going to change the world, but that doesn't bother me.

God that was boring and pointless. But you asked.

― Graham, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Daivd Hunts and we get range chicken,beef, mutton and goats from a local farm
I think it mostly has to do with localness ( ie only eat foods which you can grow on your own soil). I try to do this as much as possible , we grow alot of the foods we eat . But the problem is i like exotics .

― anthony, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I didn't mean to harrass you, Graham. I have no problem with vegetarianism. I just asked because I was curious why, because most people tend to have one of those reasons. Also the thing with fish never occurred to me before, despite once having a veg. girlfriend and finding out a lot about it then.

― Josh, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Sometimes I spend a year as vegetarian but MCDONALDS awlays pull s m e back into sin. Damn them . They are so ...taaasty....

― Mike Hanle y, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

In order to eat meat you must believe A) people are superior to animals and/or B) it is ok to kill and eat a living thing if it is inferior and/or C) satisfying your personal taste is more important than thinking about A) and B).

― chris, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Or you must not really think about it at all, just eat stuff you like without attempting to inflict your views on other people.......

― Emma, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think that would count as C, Emma.

The problem is that some animals kill and eat other animals without rationalising ("thinking"), so *if* we have the ability to think about it and choose whether to reject it or not then A) is presumably by definition true, i.e. we are superior to animals by virtue of our ability to choose vegetarianism, WHETHER OR NOT we actually choose it (choosing it might make us morally superior, depending on your pov).

― Tom, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

That is possibly the most fatuous thing I've read today. I suppose that all of those carnivorous/omnivorous animals out there think that they're superior to the animals they eat, too?

― Dan Perry, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Dan: yes. Otherwise they wouldn't try to hunt them. Actually "thinks" is being used more intuitively there than Chris presumably intended.

― Tom, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Emma, I hope that wasn't aimed at me, I was just joining in the discussion. You sound somewhat defensive.

Isn't *inflicting views* what a threaded discussion board is all about?

― chris, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Kind of..... but it's not that I think shovelling red meat down my throat is more important than contemplating the moral and ethical worth of what I'm doing, I just don't think about it full stop.

I think it's fair does to say that if you wouldn't be prepared to kill and butcher an animal it is a wee bit hypocritical to eat meat. I'm not saying all us meat eaters should run to a field and start slaughtering beasts, just that we should feel like if we had to, we would. I am pretty sure I could.

― Emma, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Dan, don't be so dumb, they weren't fatuous criteria - OBVIOUSLY animals that eat other animals KNOW they're superior and don't have a moral issue with it.

Why so defensive? (passive/aggressive?) it's 3 perfectly reasonable suggest categories. Reasoned argument rather than rudery?

― chris, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

This is a lively one. I didn't get in fast enough.

Chill, mate, I'm not having a go at you personally. I don't think people on a discussion board inflict views. In fairness I don't know many veggies who do in real life either. But if one of them vegetarians came round my house as I was tucking into a bacon butty and started having a go.....

― Emma, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I disagree with what Chris says, but I don't think jumping down his throat is a great thing to do - vegetarianism is one of those big hot- button issues which is eventually going to come up on a general discussion board (esp. hot-button on ILE which seems politically fairly homogenous, whereas there's no leftist consensus on vegetarianism) and if we can avoid getting pissy everything will go smoothly.

― Tom, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

OBVIOUSLY animals that eat other animals KNOW they're superior and don't have a moral issue with it.

Obviously? That non-human carnivores have a) morals and b) knowledge of their superiority over their prey is far from obvious.

― Richard Tunnicliffe, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

If its what Tigers do, Its what I want to do, because Tigers are sassy!

― Mike Hanle y, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Richard: yes, I could've phrased it better - I'm not introducing a complex claim about animal morality. But I was het up, being called names for introducing what I thought was a fairly open suggestion about categorising reasons for meat-eating.

― chris, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

If we want to avoid getting pissy, it would be best for all if I don't continue in this conversation, as there are few things which will set me off faster than a statement from a vegetarian that makes me think that he/she is attempting to claim some type of moral superiority over me. When it comes to claiming moral superiority, I am KING.

(More serious reason for me to bow out; I've had too many bad conversations with vegetarians for me to sustain a civil conversation on the subject once I see something that I perceive to be a "red flag". Yes, it's my problem; that's why I don't want to make things worse by continuing to rant.)

― Dan Perry, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm obviously your moral inferior Dan, since I wish I could carry on the discussion, despite a similar history of these *bad* conversations and an understanding of the impossibility of a healthy conclusion.

You had the awareness to cease before I did, proving your moral weight.

― chris, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah, but would you eat people? (Man alive I missed this little thread didn't I.)

― Pete, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

You know, not to stir the embers or anything, but for the record, I amd A) a vegetarian (for many reasons, some of them moral, and some of them squeamishness and health) and B) not militant.

However, when people say they've had bad experiences with one or two "militant vegatarians" I somehow suspect that just doesn't come close to the number of times I've been given the "oh my god, you don't eat meat that's so WEIRD!" treatment, or been UNABLE to find a meat-free food option in various settings, or worse yet, been informed that vegetarianism is somehow the root cause of my anaemia and related ongoing health problems. (Uh... what?)

If vegetarians are defensive, even to the point of militance, you might stop for a moment and try to wonder why.

― masonic boom, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Its a good point. No-one asks meat eaters to justify eating it after all. People nearly always ask why I eat offal though as if that is disgusting. If you are going to eat an animal, eat all of it - especially the tasty bits.

Baked Haddock though. Yummy huh?

― Pete, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Kate:

If it had been one or two militant vegetarians, I would agree with you. We're talking about something like 20 different people who have tried to shame me into admitting that they were better people than I was because they didn't eat meat. (That number might be low because I don't remember how many people were involved in the online coversations. It could've been 22. Okay, I'll stop.)

― Dan Perry, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

At the dinner party I was at last night we got halfway through the Quiche when one of the lovely ladies present asked "So who's a vegetarian then?" We all looked around and shrugged. "Oh," says she. "I assumed we were eating vegetarian food because someone was a veggie." "I think we're just eating it because its nice."

I don't think this makes any point whatsoever.

― Pete, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Anyways I had some haddock that I ordered form homeruns.com and it was lovely. THen later I had some in Maine and it Too was delicious! I couidln't resist also having some later in the evening at Marie's CLam shack. They sodl T shirts of their store even though it was a littel dump.

― Mike Hanle y, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

what is worse that preachy moralistic vegitarianns is meat eaters who cannot connect the meat they are eating with the animal it once was or being unable to prepare their own flesh. these people ought to be vegitarian. I'd even go as far to say that people should become more involved witht the slaughter and butchery of their own meat. Meat doesn't appear in sanitised foam trays by magic.

I am a meat eater but believe that a lot more respect is due to the animals we eat.

Baked haddock, mmm. Try poaching in milk with thyme and tarragon.

― Ed, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"being unable to prepare their own flesh": I *really* don't get this injunction. It's like saying you shouldn't eat cornflakes if you're not prepared to establish and run a factory flaking the corn. Or if you can't swallow a sheep's eyeball raw then you're a hypocrite for liking hamburgers. I'm a good cook and I like cooking: but I don't get cheesed off at the people I feed who *can't* cook, and wd decline if I suggested it was their turn (or their DUTY). People have different competencies and confidences.

I do think squeamishness is interesting and strange — heinz baked beans make my sister gag — hence obsess'n with the preparation of insects as food around the world. But I think it's EVEN MORE STRANGE to make squeamishness the basis of a moral calculation whereby these people are heroes for their squeamishness and those people are hypocrites for theirs.

― mark s, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

three years pass...

i'd like to make a haddock meal of some kind. any suggestions for a good haddock dish?

― charltonlido (gareth), Friday, 13 May 2005 11:50 (twenty years ago)

My lunch today was haddock, I dipped it in beaten egg and rolled it in breadcrumbs which had been mixed with chopped chilli and garlic, then I fried it in olive oil til the breadcrumbs were crispy. It was pretty good.

― Matt (Matt), Friday, 13 May 2005 12:21 (twenty years ago)

And here's me thinking this would be a thread about Tintin's loyal, if wayward, nautical sidekick, and thus an excuse for 800 posts of bashi-bazouk, thundering typhoons, pockmarked pithecanthropuses inter alia.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 13 May 2005 12:43 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

Anyon e care to add?

― PappaWheelie V, Saturday, 12 April 2008 21:42 (seventeen years ago)

mmm haddock. now i'm in a fish & chips mood.

― get bent, Saturday, 12 April 2008 21:48 (seventeen years ago)

http://packy.dardan.com/walky/albums/album11/aks.jpg

― Oilyrags, Saturday, 12 April 2008 21:57 (seventeen years ago)

Made the following recipe last night with haddock instead of monkfish, and it turned out pretty yum.

http://joannasfood.blogspot.com/2008/02/moro-monkfish-with-ginger-and-saffron.html

― chap, Saturday, 12 April 2008 22:27 (seventeen years ago)

fourteen years pass...

https://www.msc.org/what-you-can-do/eat-sustainable-seafood/fish-to-eat/haddock

― | (Latham Green), Wednesday, 19 October 2022 00:21 (two years ago)

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― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 19 October 2022 00:23 (two years ago)

Hello Rin Tin Tin!! May I have a drop o that liquere

― | (Latham Green), Wednesday, 19 October 2022 02:01 (two years ago)

Haddock >>> cod

― ledge, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 07:51 (two years ago)

"Cod has a more mild, clean taste. Haddock is more flavorful and “fishy.” However, the difference between Cod and Haddock is more about shape and texture than taste. Cod fillets are thicker and firmer. They’re great for grilling or searing because they don’t overcook as easily. Haddock fillets are thinner and more fragile. They cook through quickly and are ideal for frying."

https://fishingbooker.com/blog/cod-vs-haddock-all-you-need-to-know/#:~:text=Haddock%20is%20more%20flavorful%20and,are%20thinner%20and%20more%20fragile.

― | (Latham Green), Wednesday, 19 October 2022 18:05 (two years ago)

I just bought a bottle of Loch Lomond single malt because of Capt Haddock, but I guess the name is just a coincidence

it's a pretty nice dram

― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 18:15 (two years ago)

The Captain's travails to save his last bottle of whiskey in Tin Tin in Tibet are all time.

― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 19 October 2022 18:17 (two years ago)

Fave episode , blaise?

― | (Latham Green), Wednesday, 19 October 2022 18:18 (two years ago)

That one, for sure. It's the funniest of the lot, imho.

― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 19 October 2022 18:19 (two years ago)

Tintin in Tibet is great, I own that one.. Snowy gets trashed off whisky leaking from the Captain's rucksack

― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 18:55 (two years ago)

"CHANG!"

― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 19 October 2022 19:01 (two years ago)

"what's this he Samba cooked barley meal with tea and butter what was that it was
Yeti the abominable snowman nonsense it was just the wind no sape that was no
wind Yeti is very bad he eats the eyes and hands of men we go back now yes
No whatever it was we're not going back I've got a friend up there who needs me"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4kjxIufj9w

― | (Latham Green), Wednesday, 19 October 2022 19:34 (two years ago)

"Please sit down, Grumbling Thunder."

― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 19 October 2022 19:39 (two years ago)

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