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OK, most are bad and should be destroyed. But which ones should be saved (when the revoluion comes, obv)?
Search: John McCain, Colin Powell, Chuck Hagel, Bob Dole

― Sym (shmuel), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 23:42 (twenty-two years ago)

That title should be plural. Unless you want to choose which body parts of a certain Republican should be searched and destroyed...

― Sym (shmuel), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 23:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Abraham Lincoln

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 23:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Are you saying the only good one is a dead one?

― Sym (shmuel), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 23:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Well let's just say his statues should remain.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 23:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Search: Barry Goldwater R.I.P.

(God, if only he were alive today, I'd love to see him ripping into Bush)

― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 23:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Dick Lugar because of his goooooofy smile

― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 23:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Oliver Cromwell

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 23:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Bob LaFollette RIP.

― Sym (shmuel), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 23:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Hell, if we're counting dead ones, Eisenhower wasn't too bad.

― Sym (shmuel), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 23:56 (twenty-two years ago)

George Washington. Even dead 200+ years, his policies/enterprising spirit has done more for the country than most of today's live specimen.

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www-hoover.stanford.edu/bios/images/shultz.jpg

George Schultz is oddly kind of cool. He's one of those old school Republicans - less government intrusion, more civil liberties, etc. - that make the neo socially conservative Repubs cringe. He's was seriously into legalizing drugs - not pot, HEROIN - for very convservative reasons.

― andy, Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:01 (twenty-two years ago)

S: John Goodman as Pres.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Destroy the democratic party, a party of no principles just voting blocks.

― D Aziz (esquire1983), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:03 (twenty-two years ago)

and Linc Chafee.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:04 (twenty-two years ago)

sonny bono!

― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:09 (twenty-two years ago)

search colin powell??? the man has no shred of dignity or integrity intact. and his episode of calling out some intern last week for groaning at his bullshit peddling was uncalled for.

destroy: bush admin, esp. condi rice, rummy, cheney, wolfwitz; santorum, delay, hastert, frist, lott

search: lugar, mccain, chafee

ill also admit to secretly liking tucker carlson. he doesnt toe the line 101% of the time like some of the other hacks on tv.

also, destroy that comment about the dem party being a voting block.

― bill stevens (bscrubbins), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:10 (twenty-two years ago)

sonny bono!

You mean the guy that further extended copyrights meant to go public domain to ridiculously long time frames? No thanks.

― donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I second John McCain, he's a good, decent gent. And his wife's mighty fine. heh. And I used to know his daughter (she was the receptionist at Atko Records in the early 90's).

The rest of them should be flayed alive.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:14 (twenty-two years ago)

tom kean (pending his final report on 9/11)
john paul stevens and david souter (but would either really be a republican nowadays?)
until this nightclub nonsense, i might've said michael bloomberg
john mccain

... fuck the rest of them.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:16 (twenty-two years ago)

oh yeah, destroy sonny bono, never mind. and orrin hatch too!

― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:18 (twenty-two years ago)

sonny "watch out for that tree!" bono

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I just saw Bob Dole on John Stewart. Isn't his lovable horny old loser politician shtick really really great? Has anyone else made a career in comedy based on losing a presidential election?

― Sym (shmuel), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:19 (twenty-two years ago)

gerald ford

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:21 (twenty-two years ago)

a disturbing thought crossed my mind though watching Dole on the Daily Show; if he had won eight years ago, and won re-election, he could conceivably STILL be President, and while he's kind of a funny guy, he does NOT seem to be very sharp any more. Now isn't that scary? Don't vote for old people!

― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:21 (twenty-two years ago)

do we save or destroy Ah-nold?

― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Good point, eisbar. Republicans make better losers than Democrats, I think. I doubt Al Gore has much of a sense of humor about the whole 'Supreme Court installing Bush and ruining the world' thing.
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But if Dole won, Bush wouldn't be pres!

― Sym (shmuel), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:23 (twenty-two years ago)

And the medium of film would be better without the Governor of California.

― Sym (shmuel), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Search John Warner, just because the republican party in Virginia tried to get rid of him in the primaries because he wasn't right-wing enough for them. This was a reelection campaign, by the way, which makes it almost unheard of.

― David Beckhouse (David Beckhouse), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:25 (twenty-two years ago)

if memory serves me right, whoever it was that was goldwater's veep was in either an american express or a beer commercial during the late seventies/early eighties. i only remember this b/c i was all like, "who's he?" and my dad told me. but i can't remember his name right now.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:25 (twenty-two years ago)

george washington was a federalist

― %%, Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Trent Lott should be beaten into blubbering, senseless submission with one of his own sawed-off limbs.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Rick Santorum, only for providing a new word in our vocabulary to describe by-products of sex. (Although Dan Savage should be credited for that, too, obviously...)

― donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:28 (twenty-two years ago)

for some strange reason, some of my philly relatives really like arlen spector. which makes absolutely no sense, since he's nowhere near as moderate as his reputation, he's the guy that came up with the whole "single bullet" nonsense and berated anita hill, plus he's LEGENDARY in DC and PA for being impossible to work with (b/c he's a total asshole). and he doesn't seem to bring an awful lotta pork to the state.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:28 (twenty-two years ago)

that said, spector isn't as over-the-top right-wing as santorum. and he bitch-slapped robert bork, which gives him SOME points i suppose.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Joe Scarborough should be forced at double-barrelled gunpoint to blow Andres Serano.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:29 (twenty-two years ago)

alex, you remember al d'amato?

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:31 (twenty-two years ago)

why are all the celebrities who wound up in government republicans, yet everyone still yaks about hollywood liberals? at least they have the good sense to stay out of the senate.

― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Of course. And he should be immolated.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:33 (twenty-two years ago)

"senator pothole," indeed.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:35 (twenty-two years ago)

actually joe scarborough should be eviscerated, w/ no anasthesia, on live national TV.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:38 (twenty-two years ago)

"things that we can do to obnoxious republicans that are extremely painful or humiliating (TO THEM) and yet extremely gratifying (TO US)"

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:40 (twenty-two years ago)

and orrin hatch too!

I mostly agree but if the reports are true about him getting pissed over the Congressional snooping by Republicans -- as opposed to pretending it didn't happen -- then frankly, I'll spare him for now.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 00:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Everyone who's searching McCain but ignoring Chafee is smoking crack. For all his "Straight Talk Express"-stuff, McCain's pretty far right.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 01:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Teddy Roosevelt -- labor laws, conservation, Nobel Peace Prize winner, Pure Food Act, corporate trustbusting? They don't make Republicans like that anymore.

Richard Lugar probably saved Indianapolis when he was mayor by consolidation of the county into the city limits. It was a very risky and controversial thing to do at the time, but in the long run it has worked out well.

― earlnash, Wednesday, 18 February 2004 01:49 (twenty-two years ago)

That would be William Miller.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 01:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Despite all of his subsequent revisionism, McCain is still tainted for his involvement with Charles Keating and the Lincoln Savings S&L scandal

Destroy.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 01:56 (twenty-two years ago)

our two maine senators are pretty ok folks i think - susan collins & olympia snow. though i don't know if they're really considered republicans by the rest of the nation as they tend to vote more on the left than, say, lieberman.

― j c (j c), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 02:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Teddy Roosevelt's racist and imperialist tendencies make Dubya look like a pussycat.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 02:08 (twenty-two years ago)

EVERY president from that time was a racist and an imperialist. see Woodrow Wilson.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 02:09 (twenty-two years ago)

ANYONE circa 1900 and before makes someone now look like a pussycat.

― earlnash, Wednesday, 18 February 2004 02:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah Teddy Roosevelt>>>>>>Woodrow Wilson

― Sym (shmuel), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 03:02 (twenty-two years ago)

ANYONE circa 1900 and before makes someone now look like a pussycat

Mahatma Gandhi?

― run it off (run it off), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 03:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Mahatma Gandhi?

if memory serves me right, (a) he had some nice things to say about hitler (even though he wasn't a nazi); (b) for a while, he was against fighting in WWII (though NOT b/c he loved hitler); and (c) he apparently had some odd views about african-americans.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 04:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Alan Simpson (retired senator from Wyoming)

― ryan (ryan), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 05:27 (twenty-two years ago)

mr. simpson only became kinda OK after he retired. before that, though, he was just as much of a jerk as any other GOP senator.

i also nominate lee atwater, b/c at least he repented (after having a tumor taken offa his brain).

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 05:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think Atwater ever got level. That tumor was his LEAST malignant part!

― Hunter (Hunter), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 06:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I like how this thread began with the assumption that 'most are bad and should be destroyed'

I feel the same way about tax-crazy democrats

I'm glad somebody mentioned Barry Goldwater - "Extremism in the face of peril is no vice" - one of my favorite quotes.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 06:21 (twenty-two years ago)

john mccain made "chelsea is a dog" jokes, yes he did

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 06:24 (twenty-two years ago)

It made a deep impression.

I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!

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― Hunter (Hunter), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 06:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Strange - that's not the same quote I read. Walter Benjamin, to thread! But anyway...you get the idea.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 06:35 (twenty-two years ago)

i also nominate lee atwater, b/c at least he repented (after having a tumor taken offa his brain).

And also, while I believe in legitimacy of repentance, Atwater strikes me as the type for whom this conversion might best be described as "transactional."

WRT: But anyway...you get the idea.

I do.

― Hunter (Hunter), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 06:38 (twenty-two years ago)

i guess that i will search george ryan, former govenor of illinois for the fact that he put a moratorium on the death penalty even though he did so really fucking shady stuff and now is paying for it.

― todd swiss (eliti), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 06:40 (twenty-two years ago)

goldwater was, undoubtedly, a better human being than LBJ. but i woulda vote for LBJ, then and now. not to mention that LBJ was a bonafide political genius and (UNLIKE tricky dicky) he didn't get caught!

(nb: i know that atwater was a sleaze, and that deathbed confessionals are really cheesy ... still, there was something kinda punk-rock about him.)

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 06:40 (twenty-two years ago)

i confessed in another, earlier thread that had i lived in NYC during the 2002 election that i woulda voted for george pataki. though i wouldn't go so far as to say that pataki is all that admirable. and i would NOT have voted for him over mario cuomo (andy cuomo, on the other hand ...)

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 06:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't beleive anyone could have ever voted for Bloomberg.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 06:43 (twenty-two years ago)

barry goldwater otm!

bob barr for working w/the aclu on attacking the patriot act

gary johnson fmr gov of New Mexico for this interview I read once where he advocated legalizing drugs etc - while in office!

ron paul

oh shit, i've said too much...

― christhamrin (christhamrin), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 06:47 (twenty-two years ago)

gary johnson fmr gov of New Mexico for this interview I read once where he advocated legalizing drugs etc - while in office!

Alright, I know that my endurance sport geekdom is showing a lot lately, but:

Gary Johnson did a 10:39 at Kona Ironman. RESPECT.

― Hunter (Hunter), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 07:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Nelson Rockefeller, for his manner of death.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 14:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Some of the Illinois Republicans are bitter enemies of the right wing of the party. Conservative groups have even had conferences and the like in which they get together and bitch about the Illinois GOP, which they consider the most 'liberal' GOP in the country.

― Kerry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 15:21 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.house.gov/kolbe/Jim.gif
Rep Jim Kolbe (R-AZ): sure he's anti-abortion, but he's gay as a french horn! (also voted for the Defense of Marriage Act, wtf)

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)

um, destroy, obv.

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 15:56 (twenty-two years ago)

One day, American politics will discover class.

― Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 16:00 (twenty-two years ago)

a lot of NJ (and northeastern) GOPers are more moderate than their party. but the NJ wingnuts also vote heavily in the primary, and sometimes they end up nominating someone WAY more conservative than the rest of the state -- like bret schundler for governor 3 years ago.

which reminds me -- the GOPer than schundler beat in the primary, and who Corzine beat for the senate 2000 election -- was a relatively moderate/conservative-but-not-crazy guy named Bob Franks (who had been my U.S. House rep when i lived w/ the parents). i felt sorry for the guy -- first b/c Corzine outspent him, and then b/c he got waylaid by the wingnuts. not sorry enough to VOTE for him, though :-)

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 16:43 (twenty-two years ago)

but he's gay as a french horn!

Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 17:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Nobody's mentioned Giuliani?

― Nemo (JND), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 17:05 (twenty-two years ago)

giuliani was great on 9/11, true. before that, though, he was an asshole of the highest order.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 17:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Eisbar, why would you have voted for Pataki? I'm just curious.

― hstencil, Wednesday, 18 February 2004 17:23 (twenty-two years ago)

i thought that he was doing a good job, he is relatively moderate (as far as republicans go), being a republican would be better in getting post-9/11 money from a GOP white house and congress, and i was sorta suckered by his campaign promises. plus mccall did not impress me at all.

i wouldn't have for him the 1st 2 times, though.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 17:26 (twenty-two years ago)

"having a republican governor," that is.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 17:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Giuliani was a nightmare before 9/11. New Yorkers all know that. But he was Jerry frickin' Brown compared to Bloomberg.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 17:27 (twenty-two years ago)

the sheer amount of corruption in the first two Pataki administrations would've been enough for me not to vote for him a third time (I couldn't anyway, wasn't registered in NY yet). The man makes George Ryan look like Elliot Ness, yet nobody seems to care.

― hstencil, Wednesday, 18 February 2004 17:31 (twenty-two years ago)

The Vicar hasn't popped up to say

FUCK THE PROVOS

yet, so I suppose I'd better do it for him.

― the finefox, Wednesday, 18 February 2004 17:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Giuliani's radio show while he was mayor was hilarious, though:

"The excessive concern that you have for ferrets is something you should examine with a therapist, not with me."

― Nemo (JND), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 17:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Bob LaFollette RIP

wasn't Fightin' Bob a Progressive rather than a Republican?

― DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 18:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow, DV knows Fighting Bob! (A lot of Americans don't.) Anyway, he was first a Republican (as governor & senator), and then a Progressive.

― Kerry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 18:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Fighting Bob was quite the character, I seem to recall.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 18:29 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, even though he was known as Battlin' Bob.

― hstencil, Wednesday, 18 February 2004 18:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Just don't confuse him with "B-1 Bob," Bob Dornan.

― Nemo (JND), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 18:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Trust me, I have reasons not to.

http://mst3k.booyaka.com/episodes/images/titles/612-s.gif

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 18:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't see the picture, Ned. Is it of you and Bob Dornan arm-wrestling?

― Nemo (JND), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 18:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I wish it was (the picture is the opening title of The Starfighters, an MST3K classic starring Mr. Dornan himself).

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 18:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Did the Republican Party jump the shark when Joe McCarthy beat Bob La Folette Jr.?

― Sym (shmuel), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 19:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Boba Fett?

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 19:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Definitely a Republican

― Sym (shmuel), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 19:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Boba Fett seems more like a libertarian to me.

― Nemo (JND), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 19:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Same thing

― Sym (shmuel), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 19:55 (twenty-two years ago)

According to IMDB, Dornan was also in a movie called "The Imposter," which is appropriate considering the way he misrepresented his combat experience.

Did they refer to his political career on MST3K?

― Nemo (JND), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 20:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh yes, my friend. And in more than that episode. He wasn't a running joke every time or anything, more like a general reference point such as Pat Buchanan.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 20:05 (twenty-two years ago)

another vote for lugar.

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 19 February 2004 00:36 (twenty-two years ago)

search: CONAN
destroy: pete wilson

― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 19 February 2004 00:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Vicar, I am disappointed that you finally showed up on this thread and you still didn't say FUCK THE PROVOS.

― the finefox, Thursday, 19 February 2004 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)

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