Is it Voyeurism?

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So I'm in a lesbian bar eating mint brownies and drinking horrible coffee, and these two teenagers - young teenagers - both walk in. They're both male, and they sit on the same side of the booth about ten feet from me. And they feed each other and one kisses the other on the forehead, and they have a sincerely romantic evening: whispering and cuddling and all that. And watching it made me happy. I told my friend about that and she swore my pleasure was voyeuristic. Which lead into a big semantic debate about voyeurism that remains yet unresolved.

Presuming that I derived neither erotic nor vicarous romantic satisfaction from it, isn't it more akin to nosiness than voyeurism? And is it even nosy?

― The Second Drummer Drowned (Atila the Honeybun), Friday, 20 February 2004 03:58 (twenty-two years ago)

It's a sad state of affairs when you can't happily watch two people in love without being lampooned for it. Thats what I think.

― ipsofacto (ipsofacto), Friday, 20 February 2004 04:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I was at a gay bar in Ann Arbor and went to the bar and ordered a drink and the two guys next to me kept giving me funny looks and I'm all like, "Whatever gay dudes... I'm just ordering a drink."

So when I get back to the table my then-girlfriend says, "You know that one of those guys was getting a handjob, don't you?" I hadn't even noticed.

I guess thats the opposite of voyeurism though.

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Friday, 20 February 2004 04:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha... that's like Bizarro voyeurism. I once stared at this old man for like twenty minutes because he was squirming on a park bench and I thought it was funny. Only later did I realize he was pooping himself.

― Atila the Honeybun (Atila the Honeybun), Friday, 20 February 2004 04:16 (twenty-two years ago)

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

― ipsofacto (ipsofacto), Friday, 20 February 2004 04:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Please tell me that you actually said "Whatever, gay dudes" to them.

― Allyzay, Friday, 20 February 2004 04:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I wish.. but I did give them a "whatever gay dudes" sort of look back. Which made the fact that a handjob was involved even funnier cuz I was like "whatever handjob-giving gay dudes."

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Friday, 20 February 2004 04:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I am so happy reading this.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 February 2004 04:26 (twenty-two years ago)

That's because you're an ILX conversational non-erotic voyeur, you sick fuck.

― The Second Drummer Drowned (Atila the Honeybun), Friday, 20 February 2004 04:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Well yeah.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 February 2004 04:48 (twenty-two years ago)

This is a beautiful thread. Whatever, you voyeur-hatin' ILX dudes!

― Skottie, Friday, 20 February 2004 07:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually, Sentence Two of the prior post is inappropriate. Just plain wrong. A feeble attempt to glom onto the magic of the phrase, Whatever gay dudes, which is possessed of a kind of perfection.

― Skottie, Friday, 20 February 2004 07:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha! Aaron, I kiss you!
I don't think it was voyeurism myself, but dude, you did say 'Presuming that I derived neither erotic nor vicarous romantic satisfaction from it' rather than 'I did not'!

― Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 20 February 2004 09:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Halfway through the orginal queery I tried to morph the question from particular to universal. Thus 'presume.'

Ahem, query.

Ehh... Christ, I'm unemployed.

― The Second Drummer Drowned (Atila the Honeybun), Friday, 20 February 2004 17:52 (twenty-two years ago)

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