taking sides: Naomi Wolf vs Camille Paglia

Everything has to be a literary or historical tableau with this woman. I guess contemporary reality is too dull for her.

A) They are inherently jealous (i.e. they won't be turning up in Playboy any time soon)

B) Scared of sex.

I kinda agree with both of these. While I think the minute someone is being paid to fuck you're into something a bit more morally dubious (I'm basing this upon the fact that women get paid more for certain acts in the industry and are therefore relegated to being tied to a wage dependent on ever increasing demands) but as for chicks posing naked... I see no moral objection at all. If you're fit and have a hot body then why no flaunt it? If someone offered me moolah to get me wanger out I'd be all for it.

Yawn.

RESPECT.

One must fantasise only about pr0n stars, or strangers? Am I allowed to fantasise about my wife? Other people I have had sex w/?

On balance I like CP more than NW because she is madder. I can't really answer about the case in hand, but I think there is something in what CP is saying about how it's a bit late to be now bandying about accusations of sexual harrassment from twenty years ago.

Also the author of possibly the worst, and among the dottiest, books on Shakespeare I've ever read. I've no idea if he sexually harrassed Wolf, but if he did this smug, sanctimonious charlatan deserves all the discomforting revelations she can dish out.

NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--02/19/2004--On Monday, February 23, a story will run in New York Magazine about sexual misconduct at Yale University.

In it, I include an account of Professor Harold Bloom's sexual approach toward me when I was an undergraduate student at Yale in 1983, as well as the stories of a number of other Yale students who experienced sexual misconduct involving other Yale faculty members and students over the past twenty years.

After Yale contacted me to help them raise money, I felt I had to tell them why I was reluctant to do so. I then had many conversations with Yale authorities over a period of recent months, telling my story, hoping for an off-the-record meeting to address my concerns about the school's grievance procedures. I got nowhere.

Several distinguished women have come forward in my piece to attest to the fact that there is a systemic problem at Yale University. Their intention in doing so, as is mine, is simply to make sure that women students are as safe today as they deserve to be.

To clarify reports in recent news stories, a letter Professor Bloom wrote to support my application for a Rhodes scholarship in 1983 was written before the incident I describe. That application was rejected. I was awarded a Rhodes Scholarship in 1985, and Bloom was not one of my seven referees.

SOURCE: New York Magazine

From another listserv:

In her 1997 book Promiscuities, Ms. Wolf wrote about an unnamed college professor who placed his hand between her legs after showing up at her apartment to discuss her poetry. Other classmates, she claimed, had had similar experiences, but she thought she could resist. "My whole body, my whole self-image, once again, again, burned with culpability," she wrote. "It felt so familiar: this sense of being exposed as if in a slow-moving dream of shame. I could practically hear my own pulse: What had I done, done, done?"

having read 1,340,000,000 papers on shakespeare in general and Hhenry IV in particular last year for a college paper i can say that bloom's interpretation of falstaff is (mostly) right-on and refreshingly anti-monarchist. (he is especially OTM about the merry wives of windsor being a rotten play and a travesty of the character)

i don't think that was his interpretation of titus at all: as i remember he argues AGAINST that view of the play. if you want pomo readings of shakespeare there's plenty of em out there already, but i think bloom's intensely personal, pseudo-gnostic take on the plays is worthy in its own right.

my main problem with the book is that it is HORRIBLY organized and under-edited: you could chop two-thirds out of the text and it'd be a lot more readable.

agreed on the sonnets.

Wolf’s science presupposed that the problem was not knowing which faeces is not vaccine-tainted and therefore safe to eat

she should put that hypothesis to the test

She literally called for the sewage of vaccinated people to be separated from the general sewage, so that the water supply wouldn't be contaminated with mRNA. I fail to see any downside to this plan.

Btw the Johnson & Johnson vaccine doesn't use mRNA so if you had that one, your shit's good.

Wolf has also been posting about how nice conservatives turn out to be and how empowering shooting a gun is, seems like only a matter of time before she apologizes to Harold Bloom for saying groping was bad

I keep saying this! pic.twitter.com/R6nLAAJ32Z

— Zack Budryk (@BudrykZack) June 5, 2021

I recently read N Klein’s 2014 book on climate change & there is a recurrent healthy scepticism of miraculous technological solutions from “the scientific community” as an article of faith that saves anyone from having to think about necessary political/economic change; in light of this shit it’s very “you vs the Naomi she told you not to worry about”

what
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3GFv7fXIAMnPUS.jpg

That must have been posted up thread, instant classic

oh 2019 I assumed it was new

no!!! pic.twitter.com/H3qa3X4eQg

— flglmn (@flglmn) May 29, 2021

My one Naomi Wolf story is that my wife and I were at a public lakeside beach with our two kids when Wolf, a complete stranger to us, asked us to watch her two kids. She disappeared to god-knows-where for 90 minutes. Upon reappearing, she did not thank us. Fin.

— David Kamp (@MrKamp) June 5, 2021

that’s hilarious but also kinda genuinely horrifying

telling thread

Now that Naomi Wolf has been suspended, worth remembering that her Beauty Myth was published in the same year as Black Feminist Thought by Parricia Hill Collins. In 1990.

Publishing CHOSE to make shoddy non-feminist hot air its ‘big’ book and the aithor into THE feminist.

— Sunny Singh (@ProfSunnySingh) June 6, 2021

LOL @ that Belfast post.

Very nice.

Naomi Wolf is headlining an anti-vax "liberation" event on Juneteenth.

Organizers told me conflating the holiday celebrating the end of chattel slavery and Covid restrictions was appropriate because "we have been enslaved by our government."https://t.co/eAytxIyFxd

— Eoin Higgins (@EoinHiggins_) June 8, 2021

She's leaning in

oh...my god.

If you help smuggle people out of heavily vaccinated areas into places where they can freely get themselves and others sick is it an Underground Ailroad

It’s too bad they’re not dumb enough to have that shit in Texas.

She's still at it.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/may/09/gb-news-censured-after-naomi-wolf-compared-covid-jab-to-mass-murder

I endorsed Pres Donald Trump yesterday. Today all day my phone froze, the cursor on my computer started wandering around the desktop, and my wifi continually disconnected. All coincidentally.

— Dr. Naomi Wolf. 8 NYT Bestsellers. DPhil, Poetry. (@naomirwolf) October 31, 2024

if only that had happened the day before, to stop her crucial endorsement

She would have gotten better connectivity if she were vaxxed.

That's weird. When I endorsed Harris I found an extra 10k in my bank account.

No! No!!

Naomi Wolf outlines ten steps that "closing societies" – such as Hitler's Germany, Mussolini's Italy, and Stalin's Russia – have historically followed. These steps, Wolf claimed, are being observed in America now.

The steps are:

Invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy.
Create secret prisons where torture takes place.
Develop a thug caste or paramilitary force not answerable to citizens.
Set up an internal surveillance system.
Infiltrate and harass citizens' groups.
Engage in arbitrary detention and release.
Target key individuals.
Control the press.
Cast criticism as espionage and dissent as treason.
Subvert the rule of law.[3]

from her 2007 book. she was a prophet!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_End_of_America:_Letter_of_Warning_to_a_Young_Patriot

i think those are your standard dictatorship rules though.

SHE should have married rfk jr. she already kinda looks like one of those toothy bastards.

Random juice jar on the Gracie Mansion table. Mayor's wife with exposed navel on what is supposed to be a very important Muslim holy day (and holy breaking of the fast). Islam sees modesty in dress as being linked to spiritual purity. More physical chemistry between these two… pic.twitter.com/40tcBNGcm5

— Dr. Naomi Wolf. 8 NYT Bestsellers. DPhil, Poetry. (@naomirwolf) March 10, 2026

If your Naomi be Klein, you're doing just fine.
If your Naomi be Wolf, oh buddy, big oof.

But doctor, I am Paglia, C.

Seems like an odd time to be canvassing for a job with Iran's morality police.

"More physical chemistry between these two than this newlywed and her husband." who is she even talking about? what newlywed? this lady's fucking brain is cooked

she's also talking about the guests sneaking down the hall with thumb drives to download all of NYC's sensitive data

the last time she was called on to give advice on how a politician should style/present himself she got Gore elected president, right

why make the juice jar the lead?

Juice jar? JJ. Jihad on Jesus.

But doctor, I am Paglia, C.

― Russia did Epstein, prove me wrong (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, March 10, 2026 3:13 PM bookmarkflaglink

Kudos

so much physical chemistry he's not even looking up from his plate of food

None none none of it adds up.

2/ I asked AI, "Can you wear a crop top for Iftar?" As Rama Duwaji is doing:

AI Overview

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Asking A.I. to interpret religious teachings I don't know and cultural mores I don't share, so I can prove that someone I don't like has gravely offended people I don't listen to and a God I don't believe in.

this is just to say
i have placed the random juice jar
on the gracie mansion table
and which you were probably saving
for jihad
forgive me
none none none of it adds up

It’s not about her clothes. I don’t care what anyone wears. It’s that Rama Duwaji’s identity and role and even the marriage show many anomalies and inconsistencies; and details of her prior life are unverifiable; and a possible security threat that close to life and death information about a city of 8 million needs to be further investigated.

Now I certainly believe she was classmates with David Duchovny.

Love to be an individual liberties crusader constantly warning about the totalitarian sting in the tail of ostensibly prosocial policies, and also completely lose my shit over a woman existing in public without the social media receipts to make her biography 'verifiable' by random strangers.

what the ever-loving fuck is she going on about

open wikipedia, Naomi

Naomi Wolf: stupidity recorded

I suppose when an anti-vax brainworm meets an anti-muslim brainworm they mate and have a Naomi.

beautiful post, OEO