Why can't premiership clubs keep clean sheets anymore?

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I have given up trying to get any points from fantasy football defenders. Is this related to the national team's defensive fraility? What is wrong with our national psyche?

― N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 21 February 2004 16:47 (twenty-two years ago)

It could be due to certain rule changes:

a) the pass back to the keeper
b) the confusing offside rule

or maybe it's a formation thing, there aren't many great defenses that aren't based on a 4-4-2. Has any premiership team ever played with a sweeper? I'm not convinced that the wing-back system has any sort of future.

― jel -- (jel), Saturday, 21 February 2004 16:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Because keepers are too busy scoring? (see Brad Friedel's last minute equaliser this afternoon)

― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 21 February 2004 16:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean would the old Arsenal defence of past conceaded more goals if they were playing today?

Oh, and the sliding tackle has become a risky thing.

― jel -- (jel), Saturday, 21 February 2004 16:56 (twenty-two years ago)

2-2
4-4

So it goes on..

― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 22 February 2004 18:08 (twenty-two years ago)

It doesn't help when you have Gary Doherty and Dean Richards at the back (or Taggart and Dabizas, come to think of it). 4-4.

― darren (darren), Sunday, 22 February 2004 18:47 (twenty-two years ago)

there are still plenty of clean sheets, nothing has changed.

― stevem (blueski), Sunday, 22 February 2004 19:28 (twenty-two years ago)

BIRMINGHAM CITY TO THREAD!

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 22 February 2004 20:59 (twenty-two years ago)

If I ever meet the bloke who rings the Pompey chimes I'm going to shove those fucking bells so far up his arse he'll be able to use his tonsils to ring them. And I was saying that before they beat Liverpool, for christs' sake they make watching any game involving Portsmouth damn near unbearable, well, that and Nigel Quashie's wrinkly face/

― chris (chris), Sunday, 22 February 2004 21:14 (twenty-two years ago)

DON'T DISS QUASHIE! (one of QPR's bright young midfield talents, for a while)

― stevem (blueski), Sunday, 22 February 2004 21:20 (twenty-two years ago)

absolute cunt of a man, he was trying to get every Liverpool player booked for looking at him wrong, when he should have been trying to get them booked for playing fucking shit and not earning their wages

― chris (chris), Sunday, 22 February 2004 21:21 (twenty-two years ago)

re: bloke who rings the Pompey chimes
his name is:
John Anthony "Portsmouth Football Club" Westwood

Also travels away to England Internationals.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Sunday, 22 February 2004 21:25 (twenty-two years ago)

is that the cunt with the tatoos? the one who if you asked "Are you the wackiest fan in the premiership?" would answer "yes, why I am, do you want to hear how I changed my name to John Anthony "Portsmouth Football Club" Westwood" and then any sane person would throw him in the Solent with his bells tied to his ankles?

― chris (chris), Sunday, 22 February 2004 21:31 (twenty-two years ago)

i hear he's a big fan of The Darkness

― stevem (blueski), Sunday, 22 February 2004 21:33 (twenty-two years ago)

what a fucking cunt

― chris (chris), Sunday, 22 February 2004 21:34 (twenty-two years ago)

yes that's him Portsmouth football fans put up with him, even if he can be annoying at times:

Mugshot
http://www.bbc.co.uk/fivelive/sport/fotm.shtml

musical instruments, tats, beer, pompey colours, braces, loud voice

i met him once at an away game in Oldham in autumn 1994 from the train station to the ground, stopped off at a pub with his pals. He is harmless, 100 % Pompey Mad - but can be noisey in the ground, if your are near him: musical bugle, and leading the pompey chimes with a loud voice.

at Ipswich last season was running on the stand roof, so can be a clown at times.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Sunday, 22 February 2004 21:42 (twenty-two years ago)

..and don't forget the bell.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Sunday, 22 February 2004 21:45 (twenty-two years ago)

If he was anywhere near me I'd have health and safety on his ass, either that or puncture him several times with a nail gun.

Sorry Martian, but Pompey are fast becoming my most hated premiership side, I can't find a single redeeming feature in them.

― chris (chris), Sunday, 22 February 2004 21:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Some of us see beating Liverpool as a redeeming feature. Also I like Arry.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 22 February 2004 23:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I've got nothing against Portsmouth except for that irritating nickname.

― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 22 February 2004 23:08 (twenty-two years ago)

but 'Arry is rapidly turning into a bad characature (how do you spell that word?) of himself, and yes, the whole nickname thing grrr

Plus back in the day I had a very near thing with a bunch of their very very nasty fans.

― chris (chris), Monday, 23 February 2004 10:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Draw permitting, it looks like we could be on for an Arsenal Manyoo final for the first time in my lifetime.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 23 February 2004 10:40 (twenty-two years ago)

there was one in 1979.

― MarkH (MarkH), Monday, 23 February 2004 12:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Ah, right. Unfortunately I was unable to give it my due attention as I was three months old at the time.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 23 February 2004 12:42 (twenty-two years ago)

How come there's no reference to "roasting" in a thread with this title?

― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 23 February 2004 12:42 (twenty-two years ago)

That 1979 final was a cracking game. Alan Sunderland's perm won the day.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Monday, 23 February 2004 12:48 (twenty-two years ago)

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